Well, Trump has finally and overtly committed treason

[SoulAssasin247]

I am not a fan of his, but he's our current President and crying over it isn't going to change a thing. His policies don't affect my life, I do

 

[about_average]

The simpering cunts on the left see their totalitarian ideas...blah blah blah

Apparently you slept through history classes in school and don't know how to read. "The press is the enemy of the people" is 100% a totalitarian catch phrase, that Trump and the likes of you have embraced with gusto.

 

[about_average]

I am not a fan of his, but he's our current President and crying over it isn't going to change a thing. His policies don't affect my life, I do

Until they do.

 

[KUJACK]

Reality

Trump's personality is suspect and he's impulsive and egotistical
I believe though his policies are in the best interest of the United States at least that's what he believes
If his detractors want to change things next time have an opponent that could win Hillary was a terrible candidate and taunt Donald one because not because he was better because Hillary was horrible
Want to change things black better candidates
don't complain about it after the fact it does no good

 

[KUJACK]

Reality

Trump's personality is suspect and he's impulsive and egotistical
I believe though his policies are in the best interest of the United States at least that's what he believes
If his detractors want to change things next time have an opponent that could win .Hillary was a terrible candidate and Donald won not because he was better because Hillary was horrible
Want to change things, back better candidates
don't complain about it after the fact it does no good

 

[SoulAssasin247]

Until they do.

How is your life so affected by Trump ?

 

[about_average]

How is your life so affected by Trump ?

I don't live in a cave, I'm a productive member of American society so government decisions and policies affect my life.
But even if I lived on food stamps government policy would affect my life.
They affect the lives of every person who is a member of society.

 

[Rightguide]

Apparently you slept through history classes in school and don't know how to read. "The press is the enemy of the people" is 100% a totalitarian catch phrase, that Trump and the likes of you have embraced with gusto.

He's just fighting fire with fire, naive clown.

 

[jp55665566]

Apparently you slept through history classes in school and don't know how to read. "The press is the enemy of the people" is 100% a totalitarian catch phrase, that Trump and the likes of you have embraced with gusto.

"totalitarian catch phrase"... are you pretending that CIA does not completely control most broadcast media, especially MSM television?

 

[jp55665566]

So, no examples of CIA/NSA sponsored social media posts? I mean, even /pol/sters were able to show me posts they said were from Correct the Record.

Oblimo... why on Earth would I spend any amount of time trying to educate you? You seem to be unaware that Secret Police NSA/CIA control mainstream mass media, including a pervasive presence on social media.

 

[KeithD]

The more you harp on the guy, the deeper his supporters dig in. You have them at the point that they will not even listen to you and your "concerns."

Did you post something? I wasn't reading you.

 

[SoulAssasin247]

I don't live in a cave, I'm a productive member of American society so government decisions and policies affect my life.
But even if I lived on food stamps government policy would affect my life.
They affect the lives of every person who is a member of society.

Good speech, but how has he personally affected your life ?

 

[jp55665566]

How is your life so affected by Trump ?

To the extent that Congress, et al., control the criminal cabal of U.S. Government; Trump doesn't affect us much. He is trying to save our Republic from the greedy clutches of an international criminal syndicate. Like Bill Clinton said, "there is a government within the government, and I'm not in charge." << 'course he was just kidding... maybe?

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

How is your life so affected by Trump ?

I don't live in a cave, I'm a productive member of American society so government decisions and policies affect my life.
But even if I lived on food stamps government policy would affect my life.
They affect the lives of every person who is a member of society.

Generalities not concrete examples, "government policies" nothing about Trump.
It looks like another victim of TDS.

 

[someoneyouknow]

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Marcus Tullius Cicero

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

You gonna give us a concrete example of what you call treason?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The fucker sabotaged Obamacare to the point where I no longer have it. A direct consequence of what he's doing.

What about the families being separated? I don't look at them and think, "Not my problem." If you have empathy, you see his policies directly causing horrible trauma to other people as happening TO YOU TOO. How many people died in Puerto Rico because of him?

What about all the victims of hate crimes who've been killed because of his racism?

Those are only a few obvious examples. Gov't policy doesn't always affect you immediately and directly. You'll find out when your kid tries to apply for a student loan and no longer qualifies, when Gas prices go through the roof, or when --WHOOPS-- the economy crashes.


Moron.

Good speech, but how has he personally affected your life ?

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

No one sabotaged the ACA. It was a ticking time bomb (just like the student loan scam) and the only thing that happened was that the Republicans did not come to the rescue of the Democrat folly.

~~~~~

Here's the "treason" that the Democrats see. President Trump did not hammer, relentlessly, President (or whatever the title of the dictator is today) Putin publicly and rudely, like he does his domestic political (/press) opposition. Of course, had he followed that course, he would have been vilified not for treason, but bringing us one step closer to nuclear Armageddon.

Here is another viewpoint from Dov Fischer, Everyone is Smart Except Trump:

...

Putin is a bad guy. A really bad guy. He is better than Lenin. Better than Stalin, Khrushchev, Kosygin, Brezhnev, Pol Pot, Mao. But he is a really bad guy.

Here’s the thing: Putin is a dictator. He answers to no one. He does whatever he wants. If there arises an opponent, that guy dies. Maybe the opponent gets poked with a poisoned umbrella. Maybe he gets shot on the street. Maybe the opponent is forced to watch Susan Rice interviews telling the world that Benghazi happened because of a YouTube video seen by nine derelicts in Berkeley and that Bowe Berghdal served with honor and distinction. But, one way or another, the opponent dies.

Trump knows this about Putin. And here is what that means:

If you insult Putin in public, like by telling the newsmedia just before or after meeting with him that he is the Butcher of Crimea, and he messed with our elections, and is an overall jerk — then you will get nothing behind closed doors from Putin. Putin will decide “To heck with you, and to heck with the relationship we just forged.” Putin will get even, will take intense personal revenge, even if it is bad for Russia — even if it is bad for Putin. Because there are no institutional reins on him.

But if you go in public and tell everyone that Putin is a nice guy (y’know, just like Kim Jong Un) and that Putin intensely maintains that he did not mess with elections — not sweet little Putey Wutey (even though he obviously did) — then you next can maintain the momentum established beforehand in the private room. You can proceed to remind Putin what you told him privately: that this garbage has to stop — or else. That if he messes in Syria, we will do “X.” If he messes with our Iran boycott, we will do “Y.” We will generate so much oil from hydraulic fracturing and from ANWR and from all our sources that we will glut the market — if not tomorrow, then a year from now. We will send even more lethal offensive military weapons to Ukraine. We can restore the promised shield to Eastern Europe that Obama withdrew. And even if we cannot mess with Russian elections (because they have no elections), they do have computers — and, so help us, we will mess with their technology in a way they cannot imagine. Trump knows from his advisers what we can do. If he sweet-talks Putin in public — just Putin on the Ritz — then everything that Trump has told Putin privately can be reinforced with action, and he even can wedge concessions because, against that background, Putin knows that no one will believe that he made any concessions. Everyone is set to believe that Putin is getting whatever he wants, that Trump understands nothing. So, in that setting, Putin can make concessions and still save face....

https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

 

[jp55665566]

No one sabotaged the ACA. It was a ticking time bomb (just like the student loan scam) and the only thing that happened was that the Republicans did not come to the rescue of the Democrat folly.

~~~~~

Here's the "treason" that the Democrats see. President Trump did not hammer, relentlessly, President (or whatever the title of the dictator is today) Putin publicly and rudely, like he does his domestic political (/press) opposition. Of course, had he followed that course, he would have been vilified not for treason, but bringing us one step closer to nuclear Armageddon.

Here is another viewpoint from Dov Fischer, Everyone is Smart Except Trump:



https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

Totally unfair to bring insight and wisdom into the discussion.

 

[someoneyouknow]

No one sabotaged the ACA. It was a ticking time bomb (just like the student loan scam) and the only thing that happened was that the Republicans did not come to the rescue of their own folly.

Obamneycare was based directly on the Heritage Foundation's proposal in 1989 to force everyone to buy health insurance whether they wanted it or not.

Republicans such as Newt Gignrich wholeheartedly supported it, and even went around the nation touting it.

Once Mitt Romney implemented the plan in Massachusetts, it moved to the national level where Republicans cried foul because they got what they had wanted.

http://americablog.com/2013/10/original-1989-document-heritage-foundation-created-obamacares-individual-mandate.html

Link to the entire plan from the Heritage Foundation:

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

Thank you for your kind words.

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

Good Lord.

No matter how many times it is pointed out that the Heritage Foundation quickly put the kibosh on that position, someone is going to bring it up and act as if the ACA was a Republican artifact, one, which not a single one of them voted for in the cover of the dark and with the Pelosi admonition, "Well, we have to pass it so that we can see what's in it."

What we found out wasn't pretty and despite the honey-covered lies of President Obama, we didn't get to keep our doctors and premiums most certainly did not go down. This cost the Democrats the Congress and now they wail and lament that the Republicans did not fix their plan when they had the chance.

Next time, try a better plan.
Next time, try a better candidate.
This time, the sooner you shut Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the fuck up, the better off you will be, but since she's a hot young Latina, trying to turn off that spigot will result in cries of sexism, racism and closet conservatism. Those voters that Hillary turned her back on, are being given to incentive to return to a party that has left them.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

No one. . . except Trump.

Whether you agree with the policies is besides the point. The point is what Presidents do that affect you directly.

Idjit #1 appears to think if a gov't agent isn't knocking on your door at that moment then you don't have to concern yourself with what's going on.

You're Idjit #2

No one sabotaged the ACA. It was a ticking time bomb (just like the student loan scam) and the only thing that happened was that the Republicans did not come to the rescue of the Democrat folly.

~~~~~

Here's the "treason" that the Democrats see. President Trump did not hammer, relentlessly, President (or whatever the title of the dictator is today) Putin publicly and rudely, like he does his domestic political (/press) opposition. Of course, had he followed that course, he would have been vilified not for treason, but bringing us one step closer to nuclear Armageddon.

Here is another viewpoint from Dov Fischer, Everyone is Smart Except Trump:



https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Completely besides the point to the original question. How is Trump affecting your life right now.

Good Lord.

No matter how many times it is pointed out that the Heritage Foundation quickly put the kibosh on that position, someone is going to bring it up and act as if the ACA was a Republican artifact, one, which not a single one of them voted for in the cover of the dark and with the Pelosi admonition, "Well, we have to pass it so that we can see what's in it."

What we found out wasn't pretty and despite the honey-covered lies of President Obama, we didn't get to keep our doctors and premiums most certainly did not go down. This cost the Democrats the Congress and now they wail and lament that the Republicans did not fix their plan when they had the chance.

Next time, try a better plan.
Next time, try a better candidate.
This time, the sooner you shut Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez the fuck up, the better off you will be, but since she's a hot young Latina, trying to turn off that spigot will result in cries of sexism, racism and closet conservatism. Those voters that Hillary turned her back on, are being given to incentive to return to a party that has left them.

 

[LtCol_Kilgore_Trout]

Yes. Name-calling. The last resort of those who cannot formulate a structured argument.

It is not enough to say "Trump." You must explain "Trump how."

Should he just do what President Obama did and fund it illegally?
Would you support him breaking the law in the same loving adoration that you supported Obama when he circumvented the law to save, in appearance, his baby?