Males who are raped by women still get punished with child support

[LJ_Reloaded]

http://trauma.blog.yorku.ca/2018/05/when-male-rape-victims-are-held-accountable-for-child-support/

And it's an uphill battle to protect these rape victims because feminists say men can't even be raped.

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

So? What's the problem? It's not as if the children go away after they are raped.

 

[mackiemack]

how does a woman rape a man?

 

[Bdm20]

how does a woman rape a man?

Statutory rape. 12 year old boy, 16 year old baby sitter. Another example was a 15 year old boy and a 34 year old woman.

 

[Oblimo]

how does a woman rape a man?

I was raped by a woman when I was very young. All the feminists I talk to recognize that female-on-male sexual assault is real. (Old college friends now professors or NGO folks, plus my family on my mother’s side is lousy with academics of all stripes. Edit: my family on my father’s side was mostly slaughtered by Nazis)

LJ is an angry, angry man.

 

[Boxlicker101]

how does a woman rape a man?

Besides statutory rape of boys, there would be anal penetration with a dildo or other object and sometimes a gang rape where some women hold the man down and another woman straddles his body in the cowgirl position. Even being raped, the man could have an erection because his cock wouldn't know he was being forced. And, of course, there could be drugs used, or he might be drunk.

 

[Vitriolhack]

Besides statutory rape of boys, there would be anal penetration with a dildo or other object and sometimes a gang rape where some women hold the man down and another woman straddles his body in the cowgirl position. Even being raped, the man could have an erection because his cock wouldn't know he was being forced. And, of course, there could be drugs used, or he might be drunk.

That is called arousal discordance.

Like women who get wet when being raped, yes men also, get erections when forced.

You need to listen to their words not try to read their body’s reaction.

Women being wet is a common theme among rape victims. The defence will argue that she wanted it, her body was telling her that, since she was wet.

That is hogwash!

Men or woman, NO means NO!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

So? What's the problem? It's not as if the children go away after they are raped.

You don't see the problem with a rape victim being punished with child support? That's an 18 year sentence slapped on you for being a rape victim.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I was raped by a woman when I was very young. All the feminists I talk to recognize that female-on-male sexual assault is real. (Old college friends now professors or NGO folks, plus my family on my mother’s side is lousy with academics of all stripes. Edit: my family on my father’s side was mostly slaughtered by Nazis)

LJ is an angry, angry man.

And which one of those feminists think it's wrong to punish a rape victim with child support? Idiot.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

That is called arousal discordance.

Like women who get wet when being raped, yes men also, get erections when forced.

You need to listen to their words not try to read their body’s reaction.

Women being wet is a common theme among rape victims. The defence will argue that she wanted it, her body was telling her that, since she was wet.

That is hogwash!

Men or woman, NO means NO!

^^^ This.

 

[nowisthetime]

That is called arousal discordance.

Like women who get wet when being raped, yes men also, get erections when forced.

You need to listen to their words not try to read their body’s reaction.

Women being wet is a common theme among rape victims. The defence will argue that she wanted it, her body was telling her that, since she was wet.

That is hogwash!

Men or woman, NO means NO!

This is so true! But too often the justice system is made up overwhelmingly of fellow men who do not take female on male rape seriously, that is a big problem, too.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

This is so true! But too often the justice system is made up overwhelmingly of fellow men who do not take female on male rape seriously, that is a big problem, too.

Uh, men and women alike. Let's not forget the feminists who think consent from a man is automatic (like Mary P Koss for instance).

 

[WoundedKnee]

This is so true! But too often the justice system is made up overwhelmingly of fellow men who do not take female on male rape seriously, that is a big problem, too.

It is also made up of women who turn on women when they admire the man/rapist.

Can anyone here think of such an example?

 

[WoundedKnee]

If only Carlos Danger was more charismatic...

 

[Oblimo]

And which one of those feminists think it's wrong to punish a rape victim with child support? Idiot.

I’ve never talked about that. But that wasn’t the point I was refuting.

Child support is about the best interests of the child. But I wonder if there should be a variation of the “wrongful life” tort for the father to bring. That’s just idle speculation though. I’m not even sure how many states accept “wrongful life” as a tort in the first place.

 

[TeflonGuy]

If only Carlos Danger was more charismatic...

Who that be?

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

I’ve never talked about that. But that wasn’t the point I was refuting.

Child support is about the best interests of the child. But I wonder if there should be a variation of the “wrongful life” tort for the father to bring. That’s just idle speculation though. I’m not even sure how many states accept “wrongful life” as a tort in the first place.

Enslavement of a rape victim "for the best interests of the child"?

Women should be thrown in jail for rape... it's fraud ffs. It's no longer her body... it's now his that is being enslaved.

Name one woman who has ever been forced to pay child support over being raped. One. "For the best interest of the child" what a load of sexist hogwash.

 

[Oblimo]

Enslavement of a rape victim "for the best interests of the child"?

Women should be thrown in jail for rape... it's fraud ffs. It's no longer her body... it's now his that is being enslaved.

Name one woman who has ever been forced to pay child support over being raped. One. "For the best interest of the child" what a load of sexist hogwash.

You are full of crap.

Any female rape victim who brought the resultant child to term and did not give it up for adoption is required to support it, by law.

Family courts prioritize the welfare of the child above that of the mother and father. I can understand that position. The child is the party to this mess that is in the most need of society’s aid.

For a long time in the late 20th Century, family courts have also operated under the strong presumption that the mother is the better parent to raise a child. This, to put it mildly, is sexist bullshit. At least that presumption has always been rebuttable, however. And in the age of dower and curtesy, family court didn’t even exist and single mothers were on their own regardless of circumstance.

As I said before, my provisional opinion (gut reaction) is that a child born from female-on-male non consensual sex should give rise to an action in tort on part of the father.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

You are full of crap.

Any female rape victim who brought the resultant child to term and did not give it up for adoption is required to support it, by law.

Fuck you, bitch. Show me the law, show me where this has ever happened to a female rape victim. Or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

For a long time in the late 20th Century, family courts have also operated under the strong presumption that the mother is the better parent to raise a child. This, to put it mildly, is sexist bullshit. At least that presumption has always been rebuttable, however. And in the age of dower and curtesy, family court didn’t even exist and single mothers were on their own regardless of circumstance.

MORE bullshit. This Tender Years Doctrine that you're speaking of, which says women are the best choice for caregivers, was not the result of Patriarchal men - it was the creation of Caroline Norton, a FEMINIST.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Fuck you, bitch. Show me the law, show me where this has ever happened to a female rape victim. Or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

LOL looks like male feminist cuck Oblimo chickened the fuck out.

 

[TeflonGuy]

Should I have gotten on top?

 

[someoneyouknow]

When a woman is raped we're told it's her fault. If she gets pregnant, she may be forced to keep and pay for the child. Looks like the same applies here.

If men don't want to pay child support, don't get raped.

 

[Boxlicker101]

When a woman is raped we're told it's her fault. If she gets pregnant, she may be forced to keep and pay for the child. Looks like the same applies here.

If men don't want to pay child support, don't get raped.

If a female is raped, we are not usually told it's her own fault, although some people may point out how she might have avoided it. If the victim becomes pregnant, she can almost always get an abortion. If she chooses to give birth, that is a matter of her personal choice. Even if she has religious scruples against abortion, that is still a matter of her choice.

If a man or boy is raped, and the rapist is a female and she gets pregnant, the perp is the one who decides on whether or not to get an abortion. The victim cannot compel her to do so, and he is liable for child support after the baby is born, and maybe even for pre-natal care before that.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Fuck you, bitch. Show me the law, show me where this has ever happened to a female rape victim. Or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.


MORE bullshit. This Tender Years Doctrine that you're speaking of, which says women are the best choice for caregivers, was not the result of Patriarchal men - it was the creation of Caroline Norton, a FEMINIST.

You can't be expected to be taken seriously when you bring up this topic and respond to women who were polite to you by calling them derogatory names.

 

[someoneyouknow]

If a female is raped, we are not usually told it's her own fault, although some people may point out how she might have avoided it.

In other words, it's her fault for being where she was or wearing a short skirt. It's not the rapist's fault, it's the woman's.

If the victim becomes pregnant, she can almost always get an abortion.

Key words being "almost always". Republicans are doing their darndest to close that loophole.

If she chooses to give birth, that is a matter of her personal choice. Even if she has religious scruples against abortion, that is still a matter of her choice.

Except she's still pregnant, has to decide on an abortion and risk being attacked by the Bible thumpers, or have the kid and pay for raising the kid while the rapist pays nothing and society certainly won't help. Once a kid's born, you're on your own.