Millennials don't have sex? :|

[FknNemesis]

Studies, studies, studies... interpret the numbers to cause Doom just because we can: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/03/millennials-dont-have-sex

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The response has been predictable. Of course millennials don’t have sex, they’re far too busy catching Pokémon, or sharing selfies on Snapchat. But I don’t think this is a laughing matter. There has been so much hysterical handwringing about how damaged and deviant we would become as the first generation to grow up with porn in our pockets. Collectively we’re still very anxious about the “sexting epidemic”. Of course it’s worrying that children are pressing each other to send sexually explicit images, but I think the greatest tragedy is that the sex we manage to have rarely goes beyond a screen.

So being a Gen X'er is not worst of all after all. We aren't just bitter to have created the platforms to for everybody to excel on, cause PC wars and turn majorities into pushed in a corner minorities.

We do seem to have and still enjoy life better than those beautiful unique snowflakes, Gen Y AKA Millenials.

Is that the sweet revenge of the Gen X'ers?

 

[Liar]

By some definitions, I'm a millennial. By most definitions, my girlfriend, a handful of years younger than me, is one. We're in our mid-to-late 30's, and couldn't feel more alienated from the Snapchat generation even if we tried.

 

[lovecraft68]

That's because sex would mean time away from their phone, facebook and twitter...Priorities you know.

 

[Conager]

By some definitions, I'm a millennial. By most definitions, my girlfriend, a handful of years younger than me, is one. We're in our mid-to-late 30's, and couldn't feel more alienated from the Snapchat generation even if we tried.

I can see how chronologically you're on the cusp but those of us on the cusp of these vague classifications don't really fit. Technically some of my friends or the last year of the official Baby Boomers and I was the first of whatever came next.

you have to take a step back and not just think of it as a time line because everyone's parents who of course gave birth to you fit into some proceeding timeline being a baby boomer had nothing to do with when you were born being a baby boomer has to do with what was your parents station in life and how did they get there when you were born. I was very much a baby boomer baby. my parents didn't rush into getting married so they were slightly older by the time they started having kids I've got an older sister and then something happened between her and I because there's a bit of a gap.

The point being is that I came into being as result of postwar prosperity. He was a bit older then he would have been if I'd simply been the product of some fumbling in the back seat in college.

so I think a better indicator of what generation your n is what was the actual age of your parents when they started their family because these are generations of parents not generations of children.

 

[Conager]

That's because sex would mean time away from their phone, facebook and twitter...Priorities you know.

True that. I like the chase so I find myself chatting up women of all ages, usually with no serious intent. At the moment I'm considering taking out to dinner a former customer, who is older than I, that has suggested I do, and the other night I met a waitress who has to be in her early twenties, that two or three years ago when I was finishing up the second or third of my midlife crises I would have pursued.

I find women that are over 35 understand the concept of an approach see that that's what I'm doing and are either bemused or not but they clearly understand the dance that we are doing.

Those under 35 are very much approachable in fact they're kind of surprised to have anybody talk to them at all. When it comes up at all they tell me they are very rarely approached by guys at all, and if approached, it is vague. If they go out with guys it's either through friends or they have had to approach the guy.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Millennials don't have sex?


That's why they care so much about bathrooms.

Without a sex, they are always confused...

 

[FknNemesis]

I can see how chronologically you're on the cusp but those of us on the cusp of these vague classifications don't really fit. Technically some of my friends or the last year of the official Baby Boomers and I was the first of whatever came next.

you have to take a step back and not just think of it as a time line because everyone's parents who of course gave birth to you fit into some proceeding timeline being a baby boomer had nothing to do with when you were born being a baby boomer has to do with what was your parents station in life and how did they get there when you were born. I was very much a baby boomer baby. my parents didn't rush into getting married so they were slightly older by the time they started having kids I've got an older sister and then something happened between her and I because there's a bit of a gap.

The point being is that I came into being as result of postwar prosperity. He was a bit older then he would have been if I'd simply been the product of some fumbling in the back seat in college.

so I think a better indicator of what generation your n is what was the actual age of your parents when they started their family because these are generations of parents not generations of children.

Technically I'm a baby boomer, but my parents rushed into marriage because they wanted freedom and... a child. Having a child would exempt my father from military service (his dad was always away as a soldier), only for him to join the cops when my mother was pregnant. :S

Being in the early 40s I consider myself as an early 'Digital Native' because... well I started hammering on keyboards at the sweet age of 5 and had written databases already before I was 7.

Yet, the combination of the 'Jezebel/PC/unique snowflake' culture and the Snapchat generation make me worry that we created something really monstrous. And I don't mean tolerance, the logical extension of hippie culture.

When I look at txtspk and how Siri/Cortana/Hey Google find always more adaptation especially among younger children I am worried. Very worried.

At work we have had VR headsets for several years already and now the technology is edging closer to affordability and so is programming we are torn. Torn because of the T-junction we are at.

Do we endorse it and start focusing ever more on it? Because it is the future and none less than Facebook will drive its adaptation further (they acquired Oculus for $2 billion after all).


Or have we done enough damage already and is it time we start to look at how we integrate real life and physical objects more with tech again?

Over the years we have dabbled with AR (Augmented Reality - think Pokemon GO alike stuff), wearables and IoT (Internet of things), but until now our work has mostly been webapps and mobile apps.

But generally though we are early adopters, and champion tech before it goes mainstream, but it seems that... I'm getting old???


At least I do have sex, bookshelves with real books on, and I do read articles longer than the Facebook/Twitter excerpt or the summarized bullet points at the top of Daily Mail (Mirror?) articles[*]. I also find no need to be trendy by sharing on social media how normal, common, and unspectacular my private time is - because apparently that's the latest fad.


But being constantly 'between' both generations - one with values, one with digital devices - I not only often fail to connect with the thinking, I also struggle to connect with the values and acts of Millennials and Digitals Natives.



Anybody remember when a joke was still just a joke and not a reason to be bashed by everybody who deems themselves worthy enough to tell the whole world and their nephews how they should behave and what is not correct?

[*]Sadly enough we championed text summarization, before it was implemented by them. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition, right?

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's because sex would mean time away from their phone, facebook and twitter...Priorities you know.

It would mean time away from work and study to be more accurate.

 

[stickygirl]

Maybe the Guardian-reading millenials aren't having sex but everyone else is.
Buggies are the must-have status badge for teenage girls in my village at home so y'all should grumble about them as well. At least they aren't getting worthless degrees and running up $20,000 debts.
Guess you just can't please old folks. Plus ca change

 

[doowdniw]

Go Boomers!

 

[BotanyBoy]

It would mean time away from work and study to be more accurate.

Pretty much.






I lucked out with not being interested in the first place but I've always been fascinated watching the whole process from the outside.

Everyone in my generation (I'm an older millennial) is so fucking needy and entitled they can't get a relationship to work because they can't think about anything but themselves for 2 min and it all ends up a tragic ball of bullshit.

What's the point? That's the real question....

Why do so many people throw their life in the shitter to catch a nut?

Spend so much money, time and effort chasing it just to have it ruin their lives later.

Marriage? Jesus tiddyfuckin' Christ that's a bad idea....worst possible decision you can make. Especially if you're the breadwinner.

Sex isn't even that good.

Shit's retarded.....Ancient Aliens > sex.

 

[FknNemesis]

Maybe the Guardian-reading millenials aren't having sex but everyone else is.

Now I would be surprised if there isn't somewhere a correlation between 'statistically high buggy pusher areas' and leave votes in the Brexit referendum. I will go on a tangent and say that the same crowd would also rather buy into the populism of the man who divorced four times than understand how diversity and immigration have contributed to every modern society.

But what do I know? The beauty of studies and numbers is that they can be used to backup exactly what the presenter wants to say. Thanks for nothing, PowerPoint.

Addendum:

Published in the journal Archives of Sexual Behaviour by researchers from three US universities, the study involved the analysis of data collected through the nationwide General Social Survey that has asked US adults about their sexual behaviour almost every year since 1989.

Source: the Guardian article the opinion piece links to.

 

[Setanta84]

I think being the most economically screwed generation of the post-WWII period in American history factors into the low marriage and sex rates. If you look at what has happened to wealth in the lower 90% of the population and then look especially hard at how people in the prime working years of their lives--i.e. mostly millenials--are doing, the numbers are fucking devastating.

Basically, all wealth gained by American society in the post-war period was lost in the crash, the "recovery" only really helped out the wealthiest people in the country--because most of it was tied up in tax cuts and incentives for corporations, which do fucking nothing for regular people--and as a result, we have the following situation.

The top ten percent of the population in terms of wealth has seen an increase of wealth of 75%

The the middle class has lost about 20% of their total wealth.

The working class has lost 25% of their total wealth.

The poor have lost 53% of their total wealth.

When most of the population has become somewhere between 20-53% poorer over the last decade and a half, people don't really plan for things like weddings, and houses and families. They are more concerned with how in the fuck to afford groceries for the month.

 

[FknNemesis]

I think being the most economically screwed generation of the post-WWII period in American history factors into the low marriage and sex rates. If you look at what has happened to wealth in the lower 90% of the population and then look especially hard at how people in the prime working years of their lives--i.e. mostly millenials--are doing, the numbers are fucking devastating. ...

I wonder how the sexual activity stats would compare to early 20th century numbers. When child labor was still real and when fathers worked 12-16 hours a day in mines and factories.

As a general principle sex is the cheapest form of entertainment and the poorer the country... the more sexually active its population generally is.

The blame in linked opinion piece is how sex ed instills fear at a young age. I would dare to say for many boomers HIV was a bigger thing because it was out there much more, the news were full of it. Many took their sweet time to adopt, endorse condoms. Some too long even. But at the same time there was a level of maturity already when confronted with the risks.

Now when they are 11 or 12 they are told about the risk of HIV and other STDs. Good? Yes, because awareness will be higher (assuming millennial drink less too lol).

But can the young psyche already weigh the fear factor and assess it in ways that it doesn't also condemn sex because of it?

 

[stickygirl]

I was going to mention living with your parents ( because forget having a mortgage when you've debt to pay off and property prices are out of reach ) and shagging in the next room to your Mum is gross.

There was mention in that original article about access to porn. On top of sex-ed, I wonder if people see porn from 6th grade and realise sex is no big deal anyway. So fucking, yea ... and?

 

[Setanta84]

I wonder how the sexual activity stats would compare to early 20th century numbers. When child labor was still real and when fathers worked 12-16 hours a day in mines and factories.

As a general principle sex is the cheapest form of entertainment and the poorer the country... the more sexually active its population generally is.

The blame in linked opinion piece is how sex ed instills fear at a young age. I would dare to say for many boomers HIV was a bigger thing because it was out there much more, the news were full of it. Many took their sweet time to adopt, endorse condoms. Some too long even. But at the same time there was a level of maturity already when confronted with the risks.

Now when they are 11 or 12 they are told about the risk of HIV and other STDs. Good? Yes, because awareness will be higher (assuming millennial drink less too lol).

But can the young psyche already weigh the fear factor and assess it in ways that it doesn't also condemn sex because of it?

I don't think it's the STD talk that does it. Sex-ed in public schools is mostly abstinence-only/religious fundamentalist bullshit. If anything there is impacting attitudes towards sex, it's the willful inculcation of the idea that promiscuity or non-monogamous sex in general automatically makes you a worthless degenerate.

Popular culture is more the culprit when it comes to STD/STI fearmongering.

 

[TheAnswerMan]

says who? I have sex. Lots of it.

Studies, studies, studies... interpret the numbers to cause Doom just because we can: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/03/millennials-dont-have-sex



So being a Gen X'er is not worst of all after all. We aren't just bitter to have created the platforms to for everybody to excel on, cause PC wars and turn majorities into pushed in a corner minorities.

We do seem to have and still enjoy life better than those beautiful unique snowflakes, Gen Y AKA Millenials.

Is that the sweet revenge of the Gen X'ers?

 

[stickygirl]

says who? I have sex. Lots of it.

buggy-pusher

 

[TheAnswerMan]

buggy-pusher

buggy? Is that a British thing?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I can see how chronologically you're on the cusp but those of us on the cusp of these vague classifications don't really fit. Technically some of my friends or the last year of the official Baby Boomers and I was the first of whatever came next.

Afterbirth, placenta.....whatever you call it, it was discarded soon after.

 

[Disgustipated]

It's not "Hey Google".