Incest question

[momdebbie]

If the incest is between two consenting adults, I don't think it's anyone elses business. Nobody's being forced and nobody's getting hurt. My brother and I have been having sex for years and it's brought us closer together. I don't ever see a day when we stop. We've also talked about if someday, we find that special person and get married, that whenever he and I can get together, we'll fuck like rabbits.

she nailed it.

 

[sandra753]

Bro and sis

Brothers and sisters real life

 

[chatdreamer]

Brothers and sisters real life

oh Nice

 

[Tigersman]

That is also another valid point. Most people don't have a sexual attraction to members of their family and if they did they wouldn't act on it

If my mother had been sexually attracted to me I would have jumped her bones in a nanosecond. shewas hot and classy.

 

[paulw128]

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[son_hot4mom]

Why do so many people have problems with sexual relationships between adult family members? What goes on between consenting adults shouldn't be any one elses business. For example, a man in his early 40's gets divorced and loses his house. He moves in with his widowed mother who is in her late 50's. One day she happens to walk past his open door and sees him looking at porn and stroking himself. At first she just walks away, but then she has a second thought and goes back and gives him a "helping hand". Eventually it leads to more and they end up sharing a bed. What is the harm in it? The same could be said if it were father and daughter, or brother and sister. They are all adults. no problem.

I love this thought... and I will bet that it probably happens more than most people are willing to admit. After all, except for a few here on lit, who is willing to discuss their intimate sex life with family members in public?

 

[onkyolee23]

disabled guy

Why do so many people have problems with sexual relationships between adult family members? What goes on between consenting adults shouldn't be any one elses business. For example, a man in his early 40's gets divorced and loses his house. He moves in with his widowed mother who is in her late 50's. One day she happens to walk past his open door and sees him looking at porn and stroking himself. At first she just walks away, but then she has a second thought and goes back and gives him a "helping hand". Eventually it leads to more and they end up sharing a bed. What is the harm in it? The same could be said if it were father and daughter, or brother and sister. They are all adults. no problem.

I see what you mean, I don't see anything wrong with it !, if your going to help that person out, you should be able to, if there adult consent, I'm disabled and me and my niece had consensual sex, I did oral sex on her, I help her $$$ and she help me, by letting me eat that pussy, she was old enough,

 

[CindyCD478]

Brothers and sisters real life

Our son and daughter live together as a couple!

 

[ButtAnalMan]

Nice thread

 

[paulw128]

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[paulw128]

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[live4thebj]

Read this fellow freaks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/14/rachel-lynn-lehnardt-naked-twister_n_7066236.html

 

[bixxx55]

If the incest is between two consenting adults, I don't think it's anyone elses business. Nobody's being forced and nobody's getting hurt. My brother and I have been having sex for years and it's brought us closer together. I don't ever see a day when we stop. We've also talked about if someday, we find that special person and get married, that whenever he and I can get together, we'll fuck like rabbits.

I think the key phrase in all of these posts is the part about "consenting adults." As long as the individuals involved are capable of making a rational decision and are truly consenting, then nothing else matters. As for motivation, be it either for fun or for love, it should be OK.

 

[hotnwetnow]

incest

Being very careful here so let me just say that my incestuous relationship with my brother began early on and has continued for over 13 years and has harmed no one, unless of course you believe the BS about immoral acts being unhealthy. I wouldn't change anything of the last 13 years. I myself don't picture any aspect of incest harmful, any at all!

 

[bixxx55]

Being very careful here so let me just say that my incestuous relationship with my brother began early on and has continued for over 13 years and has harmed no one, unless of course you believe the BS about immoral acts being unhealthy. I wouldn't change anything of the last 13 years. I myself don't picture any aspect of incest harmful, any at all!

Sounds like this is a relationship that really turned out all right. You are happy. Your brother is happy. No one else would seem to matter in this situation.

 

[CindyCD478]

Being very careful here so let me just say that my incestuous relationship with my brother began early on and has continued for over 13 years and has harmed no one, unless of course you believe the BS about immoral acts being unhealthy. I wouldn't change anything of the last 13 years. I myself don't picture any aspect of incest harmful, any at all!

I agree with you 100%. There is nothing wrong with good healthy sex with anyone you choose, family or otherwise.

 

[Kantarii]

Because it's fucking weird. I have absolutely no sexual attraction to any family member. From a biblical standpoint, a child conceived by two family members is far more likely to have birth defects.

Sorry, but I'll always think it is incredibly strange.

This says it all for me

 

[lovecraft68]

Because it's fucking weird. I have absolutely no sexual attraction to any family member. From a biblical standpoint, a child conceived by two family members is far more likely to have birth defects.

Sorry, but I'll always think it is incredibly strange.

You mean the bible where family members were reproducing with each other in the old Testament, that bible?

Typical religious hypocrisy.

And birth defects would not occur for several generations, not right off the bat, so a pair of siblings having a kid wouldn't have that much of a risk. If it becomes generational though sooner or later it will.

The US is far more prejudiced about it than many other cultures. Hilarious this country can try to seriously see anything as 'morally wrong' these days.

 

[Green_Knight]

And birth defects would not occur for several generations, not right off the bat, so a pair of siblings having a kid wouldn't have that much of a risk. If it becomes generational though sooner or later it will.

Can you produce the research/medical evidence for that claim?

 

[bigray13]

j3nny is right, and not only about health risks: emotional (and legal) risks as well. Many studies have suggested that even consenting adult relationships can be fraught, as is GSA. And it may be tautological but the effect is real: such relationships are considered taboo or morally wrong by most sociologists, theologians, politicians, ethicists, psychologists, etc, and this condemnation indeed can have significant consequences for those who engage in it. Perhaps over time culture will change its attitudes, and perhaps that would be a good thing.

Don't misunderstand me: I enjoy family fantasies, and that cultural condemnation (the "forbidden" aspect) can be part of the eroticism. But we might as well be honest about the complex realities.

Take the word politicians out of your list of " experts " and I would be more apt to take you comments seriously. Other than that, you have some good points. I say, if you keep it consensual and keep under age people out of it, then it is your choice to make. It's bad enough to have everyone telling us what we should or should not do , but telling us how to think is taking it way too far. But, that is just my opinion.

 

[headdoctor]

Take the word politicians out of your list of " experts " and I would be more apt to take you comments seriously. Other than that, you have some good points. I say, if you keep it consensual and keep under age people out of it, then it is your choice to make. It's bad enough to have everyone telling us what we should or should not do , but telling us how to think is taking it way too far. But, that is just my opinion.

Ha! I had to reread my own post to figure out why I used "politicians." In fact, I was not talking about "experts" in the sense of those who have researched the effects of incest. Rather, I was saying that those who speak with cultural authority--those who have the power to shape the discourse and mores about sexuality--overwhelmingly condemn family sexuality. And *that condemnation," in addition to or even more than any evidence of psychological (or genetic) harm, produces its own effect. In other words, even those who have positive experiences with incest, as many on this board claim, still must navigate the disconcerting (or exciting) waters of secrecy and society's moral condemnation.

My point was only that this is an erotica board and that we tend to keep the heat on. That's why I'm here. And I'm glad to hear that some out here have had great experiences with family members. But, again, if an honest question gets asked, we might as well give an honest answer. And if this board and other adult/erotic sites are your primary experience with incest, try looking at an online forum established for survivors and others who have struggled with the experience. It's complicated, people.

And I'll repeat that not only am I drawn to the fantasies and stories, not only have I written my own story out here, but I've experience the real thing.

 

[1sickbastard]

If all parties are, in fact, fully consenting adults, then whatever; it ain't nobody's business but theirs.

However...

There are any number of instances where all parties are NOT consenting adults( or even post pubescent), or there are strong elements of coercion (emotional, financial), which means, by definition, pedophilia, rape and/or abuse. That shit ain't okay and ain't ever gonna be in any society with any pretense of being 'civilized'.

But let's back up a bit and define at what level of consanguinity is the term 'incest' applicable.
Parent/child and sibling/sibling sex is probably a given (unless one adheres to Old Testament definitions, in which one could marry one's half sibling so long as they didn't have the same mother, such as the case of Abraham and his wife/sister Sarah).
1st cousin relationships/marriage? Not only are these okay, Biblically speaking (Jacob & Rachael & Leah), but either fully legal or legal via judicial waiver in 27 of 50 states (surprisingly, none of those states are part of the Deep South).
3rd cousin marriage is legal pretty much everywhere, but would that be considered incest?
In any number of states, being related by marriage is/was considered incest (so no step siblings or in-laws), yet it was a very common practice for a man to marry his brother's widow.

Sure, there's a definite 'ick' factor for a lot of folks, but then, same sex couples had the same issue with regards to wider society until just the last few decades.

And yeah, the issue of inbreed does have some weight. Recessive alleles do tend to express more often the closer related both parents are, and yes, birth defects do tend to result from recessive alleles being expressed, but on the other hand, inbreed
fetuses are far more likely to miscarry, so that might be a wash.

 

[Trimjob69]

If all parties are, in fact, fully consenting adults, then whatever; it ain't nobody's business but theirs.

However...

There are any number of instances where all parties are NOT consenting adults( or even post pubescent), or there are strong elements of coercion (emotional, financial), which means, by definition, pedophilia, rape and/or abuse. That shit ain't okay and ain't ever gonna be in any society with any pretense of being 'civilized'.

But let's back up a bit and define at what level of consanguinity is the term 'incest' applicable.
Parent/child and sibling/sibling sex is probably a given (unless one adheres to Old Testament definitions, in which one could marry one's half sibling so long as they didn't have the same mother, such as the case of Abraham and his wife/sister Sarah).
1st cousin relationships/marriage? Not only are these okay, Biblically speaking (Jacob & Rachael & Leah), but either fully legal or legal via judicial waiver in 27 of 50 states (surprisingly, none of those states are part of the Deep South).
3rd cousin marriage is legal pretty much everywhere, but would that be considered incest?
In any number of states, being related by marriage is/was considered incest (so no step siblings or in-laws), yet it was a very common practice for a man to marry his brother's widow.

Sure, there's a definite 'ick' factor for a lot of folks, but then, same sex couples had the same issue with regards to wider society until just the last few decades.

And yeah, the issue of inbreed does have some weight. Recessive alleles do tend to express more often the closer related both parents are, and yes, birth defects do tend to result from recessive alleles being expressed, but on the other hand, inbreed
fetuses are far more likely to miscarry, so that might be a wash.

Umm...well said. Anywho...I agree with the consenting adults part.

 

[larrycando]

I always wanted to fuck my cousin. She was hot. She never knew I wanted to fuck her.

I feel guilty for denying her the chance to satisfy me in that way. She liked to flirt with me. I just always felt my desire for her was wrong.

Years later I found out she fucked another cousin of mine.

Oh well. If I could have overs, I would of fucked her daily.

 

[bigray13]

Complicated

Ha! I had to reread my own post to figure out why I used "politicians." In fact, I was not talking about "experts" in the sense of those who have researched the effects of incest. Rather, I was saying that those who speak with cultural authority--those who have the power to shape the discourse and mores about sexuality--overwhelmingly condemn family sexuality. And *that condemnation," in addition to or even more than any evidence of psychological (or genetic) harm, produces its own effect. In other words, even those who have positive experiences with incest, as many on this board claim, still must navigate the disconcerting (or exciting) waters of secrecy and society's moral condemnation.

My point was only that this is an erotica board and that we tend to keep the heat on. That's why I'm here. And I'm glad to hear that some out here have had great experiences with family members. But, again, if an honest question gets asked, we might as well give an honest answer. And if this board and other adult/erotic sites are your primary experience with incest, try looking at an online forum established for survivors and others who have struggled with the experience. It's complicated, people.

And I'll repeat that not only am I drawn to the fantasies and stories, not only have I written my own story out here, but I've experience the real thing.

I Agree, it is very complicated. That is why immature minds should not have to be exposed to it. Even then, it is a big risk. A good experience for some can be very bad for others. What you do as a mature, and I stress the word mature, can not be compared to under age , forced, coerced , or other situations. We were lucky, I guess , but you are very correct, it is complicated. My reference to you using the word politician was a joke, but sadly has truth to it.