Punish Women For Having Abortions?

[RobDownSouth]

For the thinking crowd I'd agree with you.

For the average voter whoz political perspective is formed via clips and MSN/FOX talking heads I doubt that's ever entered their thought process, they are all still stuck on "Trump wants to send all women to concentration camps like Hitler!!". At least until they move on to the next 5 second clip they can exploit to their advantage.

Just saw this on the Twittah right after I posted the above..

You don't want to punish women who get abortions? -No
But you want to make it illegal. -Yes
So, punishable by law. -[tosses smoke bomb]

 

[Hypoxia]

Real American's mum had one. Unfortunately for the world and Lit it lived.

I'm reminded of a Nixon re: VietNam slogan of decades past:

PULL OUT, DICK, LIKE
YOUR FATHER SHOULD HAVE​

But I digress. Yes, Tromp walked right into that one. Stepped on his dick, he did. He'll probably get Phyllis Schlaffly's vote and maybe Mrs Justice Thomas, but few other females. Now, if he is (as I suspect) a secret Dem agent bent on destroying the GOP, he couldn't have made a better move. Women voting NO on GOP Tromp will continue down the ballot marking NO to every GOP name. There goes congress. Sayonara, motherfuckers.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I doubt it's mother knows who the father was.

 

[just4friends]

Human ? Mammal?

At the point you can't freeze the "entity" and bring it back to life you would have to admit it is only a potential human being... No soul.. Etc...

Not allowing day after pill or contraceptives? Insane!! Making that choice for yourself? Sure! That's your right!

Paying for contraceptives vs a birth and cost for child? No comparison!

Changing laws to "protect" women from procedure that is safer than many others... Bullshit

Watching birth rates rise with abstinence awe the sole sex education.. Genius!!

If it was your daughter, at what point would you want her life to matter more than a "mistake"? If your rule is different for your own daughter than other's kids then how Christian are you actually?

 

[RobDownSouth]

At the point you can't freeze the "entity" and bring it back to life you would have to admit it is only a potential human being... No soul.. Etc...

Not allowing day after pill or contraceptives? Insane!! Making that choice for yourself? Sure! That's your right!

Paying for contraceptives vs a birth and cost for child? No comparison!

Changing laws to "protect" women from procedure that is safer than many others... Bullshit

Watching birth rates rise with abstinence awe the sole sex education.. Genius!!

If it was your daughter, at what point would you want her life to matter more than a "mistake"? If your rule is different for your own daughter than other's kids then how Christian are you actually?

RealMurican has literally spent this entire thread attempting to redefine the word "potential"

 

[Hypoxia]

My Unborn Baby Has a Horrible Rare Heart Condition. Now I Need an Abortion I Don’t Want.

She explained what would happen if I carried Dorothy to term. She would be born. She could have no colostrum, no breast milk, no formula. Nothing for four days. We would essentially starve her while she was closely monitored. And then on day four of life, she would undergo a very risky surgery that wouldn’t entirely fix the problem but would help Dorothy live. If she survived that, she would have another surgery three months later—and it goes on and on like this for years. A life of suffering from day one.

Go ahead. Tell her, "No abortion."

 

[Real_American11]

RealMurican has literally spent this entire thread attempting to redefine the word "potential"

You're an idiot, you haven't been able to keep up with this discussion at all.

 

[about_average]

The pro choicers are freaking shit too.

Well, at least they are a little closer to consistent since they don't want abortion illegal so no one is punished.

Cruz got to show his hypocrisy in response.

Personally I think every pro-choice politician, when faced with a bill criminalizing abortion, should work to add the following amendments:
- Charge women with conspiracy to commit murder
- Require the investigation of every miscarriage as a possible negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter, depending on the circumstances.
- No exception for rape or incest regardless of age.
- Abortion to save the life of a mother would be classed as justifiable homicide (though a good argument could be made that that would be murder too, since if I pick a fight with someone and then kill them because they are getting the best of me, that's murder, so I'm not sure which way to go on that one).

 

[Hard_Rom]

Before legal abortions thousands of women died from illegal dirty abortions. If a woman does not want the child she can find someway or someone to abort it.

In Texas recently a woman was forced to endure 4 days of having to wait for her unborn child to die before doctors could legally operate. The child had zero chance of survival outside the womb and zero chance of survival inside the womb after her water broke and the pre-mature birth process was initiated and yet because it had a heartbeat doctors could not perform a medical procedure to bring the premature birth baby out.

I can understand the right to life argument. But cases like that are just plain stupid.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Notice how not one single person has voted for punishment. Sure sign of just here for the trolling.

 

[Real_American11]

Before legal abortions thousands of women died from illegal dirty abortions. If a woman does not want the child she can find someway or someone to abort it.

Good, saves the tax payers from paying for their executions.

They are guilty of murdering their child, better they kill themselves than go through the cost of a trial, prison, etc.

Notice how not one single person has voted for punishment. Sure sign of just here for the trolling.

I think the women should be burned at the stake in a public execution.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Good, saves the tax payers from paying for their executions.

They are guilty of murdering their child, better they kill themselves than go through the cost of a trial, prison, etc.

I think the women should be burned at the stake in a public execution.

I hope you realize such a punishment would be contrary to the Bill of Rights. Or maybe you don't. From the crap of yours I have read, you know almost nothing about the Constitution. Or anything else, for that matter.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Are you people seriously taking it's rants seriously. It's a troll fucking with you! Sitting behind it's screen in it's mum's basement whacking off laughing like fuck at all of you! This is a seriously disturbed piece of shit! Who has everyone running around acting like it has a real agenda.

 

[Hypoxia]

Are you people seriously taking it's rants seriously. It's a troll fucking with you!

Yes, much troll-feeding here. Tsk. [/me looks for troll poison] And we've run out of Kool-Ade.

EDIT: Aha, a counter troll! Should men be punished for refusing vasectomies? Of course! Such irresponsible breeders should all have their nuts smashed and a big X tattooed on their forehead. Discuss.

 

[Real_American11]

I hope you realize such a punishment would be contrary to the Bill of Rights.

I don't think it is. I don't consider it cruel or unusual, or disproportionate to the offense.

Should men be punished for refusing vasectomies?

How is thi the same as getting an abortion?

You're pretty stupid.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think the women should be burned at the stake in a public execution.

I think your nuts should be sliced off and shoved down your throat as you bleed out, but hey, we can't always get what we want, right?

 

[Real_American11]

I think your nuts should be sliced off and shoved down your throat as you bleed out, but hey, we can't always get what we want, right?

Write your Congressman today!

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't think it is. I don't consider it cruel or unusual, or disproportionate to the offense.

Well, here is the legal definition: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cruel+and+Unusual+Punishment

 

[Real_American11]

Well, here is the legal definition: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cruel+and+Unusual+Punishment

"not known to the Common Law", burning at the stake is a traditional form of execution in Common Law countries like the UK and US.

It was done during the Salem trials.

Also, how is burning any less humane than electrocution, lethal injection, and gas chamber?

 

[lovecraft68]

"not known to the Common Law", burning at the stake is a traditional form of execution in Common Law countries like the UK and US.

It was done during the Salem trials.

It was, by religious assholes looking for a reason to rape and torture and kill women.

Kind of the same pricks today that yammer away about abortion and how women should be punished for it.

Times change, but religious pieces of shit and their desire to try to force their garbage on everyone never will.

I work near a planned parent hood I've pulled over a few times to escort the women in through the picketing pricks and their dead baby posters and the disgusting child molesting priest standing there.

I love how they part when its a man coming through, tells you all you need to know about you and your kind.

 

[Boxlicker101]

"not known to the Common Law", burning at the stake is a traditional form of execution in Common Law countries like the UK and US.

It was done during the Salem trials.

First, those trials happened almost a century before there was a United States and, Second, most of those convicted were hanged and one was pressed to death.
Third, such a cruel method of capital punishment has been illegal in the US at least since the Constitution was passed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials

 

[Boxlicker101]

It was, by religious assholes looking for a reason to rape and torture and kill women.

Kind of the same pricks today that yammer away about abortion and how women should be punished for it.

Times change, but religious pieces of shit and their desire to try to force their garbage on everyone never will.

I work near a planned parent hood I've pulled over a few times to escort the women in through the picketing pricks and their dead baby posters and the disgusting child molesting priest standing there.

I love how they part when its a man coming through, tells you all you need to know about you and your kind.

I have never done that kind of escorting but, if called upon, I would do so with great alacrity.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Correct me if I'm wrong but no method of execution has EVER been found cruel and unusual in the legal sense. Yes we have stopped hanging people and I don't think we electrocute anymore either but I'd have to look that up to be sure. But to the best of my knowledge no court has ever made a ruling on a particular method nor has any law been passed.

Additionally cruel and unusual is ultimately a rule of thumb sort of thing that is difficult to define. You catch a drunk driver and sentence him to dress as a Power Ranger for the next 90 days and it's certainly unusual cruel. . .well that's ultimately subjective (I'm told my. . .parts look flattering in tight clothing though that may just be every guy.).

"not known to the Common Law", burning at the stake is a traditional form of execution in Common Law countries like the UK and US.

It was done during the Salem trials.

Also, how is burning any less humane than electrocution, lethal injection, and gas chamber?

Common Law really only holds when there is no "actual" law to cover it.

Burning at the stake done properly kills fairly slowly via asphyxiation if I understand properly. The electrocution don't properly kills nearly instantly. Lethal injection done properly puts you to sleep and then you don't wake up. The gas chamber you just die slowly and supposedly peacefully. THAT is the difference.

 

[Hypoxia]

Murkans are such pussies when it comes to capitol punishment. You want to *really* punish some perp? Throw them into a nest of hungry crocodiles. At least their flesh won't go to waste.

Los Angeles long ago had an asshole mayor (not as bad as Rob Ford) named Sam Yorty who managed to coerce local radio stations into giving him too much airtime. His speeches were torturous to hear. Back then. "cruel and unusual punishment" included being locked into a cell with Sam Yorty droning away on a loudspeaker. Kill me now!

 

[SexyAlison]

Sluts must be punished.

I'm okay with abortion in cases of rape, incest, or cases where the mother's life is in danger if she were to give birth, or if the child will have birth defects that will seriously affect their life.