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Neither can you!
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This is the first such shooting that I can recall the suspects actually being able to flee the sceme.
Mental health shooting may get all the news, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to drug and gang shootings..... Those ducking republican drug dealers/hang bangers!!!!!
Three people and well planned does not smell like mentally ill to me.
Mental health shooting may get all the news, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to drug and gang shootings..... Those ducking republican drug dealers/hang bangers!!!!!
Three people and well planned does not smell like mentally ill to me.
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With more information I agree. It sounds like more terrorist. Or some cult or some militant group. There is more than ISIS in the world folks. I suspect that there are targets in in many westernized countries that will be being hit in the next few weeks. According to history anyway. I am telling you this is nothing new. Just on a global scale as opposed in one or two countries. I so hope the folks in charge get a clue before to many more have to die. Zealots are made, not born but the game plan is always the same. Hit high profile places at first. get your name known. Then hit more rural places and claim responsibility. The rural places don't have to do as much carnage as it's fear you want to put into your enemy. Don't need big numbers to do that once your name is known and your wanted. It's a stratagized game plan and the higher ups are missed history class obviously!
But the mental health system here is a damn joke.
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Speaking of mentally ill....FatLyingRacistPigDownSouth shows up right on cue.
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I'd like some examples of this terrorist pattern you propose. Doth nae smell right but I'll admit I may just be coming at it sideways.
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Woman you don't really know a damned thing about what goes on here.All you know is what you read and see on TV.
Which is more than a little slanted to the left.
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I know many on here claim to be experts on just about everything but I don't. I read quite a bit and the info is out there if your willing to look for it. I posted this list from just 1 article, 45 killers and the psychiatric drugs they were on below. Some info was withheld due to privacy issues.
Active-shooters-and-psychotropic-drugs/
-Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.
-Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
-Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
-Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
-Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
-Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
-Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
-Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
-A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand-off at his school.
-Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
-A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
-Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
-TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
-Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
-James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
-Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania.
-Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California.
-Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
-Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
-Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
-Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
-Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide. But two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
-Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
-Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
-Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...").
-Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002
(Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself).
-Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
-Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
-Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
-Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
-A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
-Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."
-Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
-Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
-Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
-Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
-Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
-What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az? Known to have been using salvia divinorum ( a natural hallucinogen, LSD and marijuana).
-What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado? Zoloft
-What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas, Or? Apparently authorities can't find any explanation other than he just snapped.
-What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct? Celexa, Lexapro, Zoloft
More reading http://ssristories.org/
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Hey BB...these guys were wearing masks...how would anyone know they're Muslims or anything else?
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I know enough to know that something has gone awfully awry for Americans to not seriously take steps to mitigate these constant shootings - regardless of the reasons behind them.
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Media doesn't even seem sure if it's 'these guys' or 'this guy'.
That 'something' is abbreviated NRA.
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^Racist shit stain thinks all gang banger/ drug dealers/ criminals are black.
Go figure. I'm shocked of course.....
Even more shocked he ignores the truth of my statement with lies and racist assumptions.
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What do you recommend?
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Calling Throb a shitstain is an insult to shitstains everywhere.
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Chuck Norris?
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What steps do you think America should take?
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Apparently the name of one of the suspects was uttered over the police scanner. That particular name certainly did not sound Christian nor Jewish.
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Finnish?
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Nothing has gone awry. We're just American, ain't it neat?
A) Stop pretending we give a fuck. It's Wednesday and I swear to God if they cancelled Arrow someone will die.
B) Start taking a hard look at our gun laws up and and including the 2nd Amendment.
Seriously folks that tree of liberty feeds on blood you don't get to live in the shade and bitch about the sprinkler system.
