San Bernadino

[pensivepoet]

If the United States was the only nation in the world where day care was widely used, it might be worth looking into. This is not even to mention the "group social setting" known as school.

There is one thing that does set the U.S. apart from less violent countries, we all know what it is, and we as an electorate have made the conscious decision to do nothing about it.

I choose to believe it is a combination of the two things.
Which is what makes America unique.
I also happen to believe violent video games play a part.
I've watched my son play them and it's rather appalling.
Sit and kill all day for fun and the victims just spawn back.
It becomes glamorous to see how many you can kill, and there's no consequence.
It's the new cool.
Combine everything, and it's the perfect storm.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Real Americans doing their bit to reduce load on real taxpaying citizens. Using their Bog given rights to bear arms in defence of their country. A good defence needs a good offence to eliminate internal enemies of the Union. Like disabled people.

We have folk here on Lit calling for sterilization and bombing the Whitehouse. I'm sure their ideological counter-parts in the RL see nothing wrong with a more final solution.

Righty racists gun nut shooters are terrorists. Mentally ill shooters are products of righty racist gun nuts.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Wait for the facts folks


Ishmael

Uh-Huh

Three dudes acting in concert wearing body armour

I'm seeing '1 to 3' I'm not sure the press knows for sure yet, even if the PD does.

.

 

[Aella_]

Most of the gun violence in Chicago is due to gangs fighting over territory to sell drugs. The democratic controlled government seems ok with the civilian deaths as a result.
Chicago: 2,703 shootings , 440 dead to date

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/weekend-violence/

Indeed. Thanks.

 

[miles]

Mentally ill shooters are products of righty racist gun nuts.

You're totally out of your fucking mind.

 

[BabblingBrooke]

Ok, here's another theory, and I began fearing it 30 yrs ago.
You wont like it.
I call it the "day care" generation.
Children used to be raised by a parent. Hopefully a loving caring parent.
Then it all changed. Both parents worked and the children were raised largely by strangers for money, in a large group.
Much like a prison works.
Generally, if you put someone in a group social setting, they will be somewhat inclined to learn the bad behaviour of others.
And as good as daycare may be, it's not the Waltons, and at a very important time in a child's developement.
The day care age has now grown up.
Just a theory.
Who knows

We are not the only developed country with the daycare system, though. Plus, does the Walton standard exist? Did it ever, really?

Like others have said, I believe this boils down to a mental health issue and hatred. I don't know the details of the specific case, but rather I am speaking to a trend.

Edited to add: empathy is missing as well.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

clearly, this is caused by teh obama kind

 

[Aella_]

Real Americans doing their bit to reduce load on real taxpaying citizens. Using their Bog given rights to bear arms in defence of their country. A good defence needs a good offence to eliminate internal enemies of the Union. Like disabled people.

We have folk here on Lit calling for sterilization and bombing the Whitehouse. I'm sure their ideological counter-parts in the RL see nothing wrong with a more final solution.

Righty racists gun nut shooters are terrorists. Mentally ill shooters are products of righty racist gun nuts.

Geez, let's not jump the gun here. There's not even a remote similarity between those two groups of people.
Yes, what some Litsters say here can be extreme and unpallatable, at tines. But they are just lashing out, venting or discussing politics. They've done it for more than 10 years, without ill-consequences.

 

[Hard_Rom]

You're totally out of your fucking mind.

Then it is a good thing I don't live in the US. I could be a danger to many many people including school children.

Righty racist gun nuts responsible for plethora of guns in the US. Lefty bleeding hearts hate guns. So when mentally ill get large gun collection and go on rampage. Not lefty bleeding hearts fault.

 

[Misshotndeep]

1) this is what a revolution looks like folks. Idealist killing innocence to get attention.
2) Our mental health system is a joke. It's so under funded that it should be called a sieve as people keep leaking through the gaping holes in it.
3)More gun laws will not fix the issue of people having a disconnect. You want folks to stop shooting each other up. Stop isolating those that are different. Isolation does bad things to the mind. They have laws against it in the Geneva conventions for a reason.
4) prayers for the families.

 

[pensivepoet]

We are not the only developed country with the daycare system, though. Plus, does the Walton standard exist? Did it ever, really?

Like others have said, I believe this boils down to a mental health issue and hatred. I don't know the details of the specific case, but rather I am speaking to a trend.

Edited to add: empathy is missing as well.

In the last 25 years, children have largely been raised in daycares.
These children have had a lot of time to themselves and have been exposed heavily to extremely violent movies and video games that glorify guns and killing.
And America is a gun crazy nation.
I don't understand how anyone can be surprised.
I'm not preaching a mantra. Go ahead and believe it's the Muslims fault or spiked oatmeal.
*shrugs*

 

[miles]

Then it is a good thing I don't live in the US. I could be a danger to many many people including school children.

Righty racist gun nuts responsible for plethora of guns in the US. Lefty bleeding hearts hate guns. So when mentally ill get large gun collection and go on rampage. Not lefty bleeding hearts fault.

You're mentally ill.

Wherever you are, stay there.

 

[Sean Renaud]

^^ Not yet. Too early.

It's not to early when your mother's on lock down because of it!

Seriously gents take your two seconds out and google San Bernadino and cross reference it with Fontana if you're calling BS.

 

[miles]

In the last 25 years, children have largely been raised in daycares.
These children have had a lot of time to themselves and have been exposed heavily to extremely violent movies and video games that glorify guns and killing.
And America is a gun crazy nation.
I don't understand how anyone can be surprised.

Yep.

Day care is to blame.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_baPSplXYBpk/S_GfpFfJ7sI/AAAAAAAAA7M/mGoQeGtnv7U/s1600/tin-foil-hat.jpg

 

[pensivepoet]

I'm baffled by the mental health argument.
There was no mental health program in the 50's, 60's, 70's and there were guns in every house.
How many mass shootings were there?

 

[miles]

I'm baffled by the mental health argument.
There was no mental health program in the 50's, 60's, 70's and there were guns in every house.
How many mass shootings were there?

I blame it on Mentos.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Geez, let's not jump the gun here. There's not even a remote similarity between those two groups of people.
Yes, what some Litsters say here can be extreme and unpallatable, at tines. But they are just lashing out, venting or discussing politics. They've done it for more than 10 years, without ill-consequences.

When friends and relatives talk about killing themselves, you take them seriously. Most righty nutbar shooters do not come from nowhere. They have a history of speaking out and own many guns.

And the venting they do just adds to the vitriolic atmosphere that breeds shooters and haters. I doubt they spout their shit on this site alone. Many are here because they have been banned from most other places. Hell they get banned here.

They are foul hateful creatures who espouse ideas better suited for neo-Nazi sites than here. They are weak and afraid. With no real plans on fixing world/US problems other than lash out and blame scapegoats.

 

[Misshotndeep]

In the last 25 years, children have largely been raised in daycares.
These children have had a lot of time to themselves and have been exposed heavily to extremely violent movies and video games that glorify guns and killing.
And America is a gun crazy nation.
I don't understand how anyone can be surprised.
I'm not preaching a mantra. Go ahead and believe it's the Muslims fault or spiked oatmeal.
*shrugs*

American's are not gun crazy. Who the fuck says that stupidity.They more guns per person in damn near any South American country then us.
Lots of kids go to day care so both their parents can work. It takes to incomes to live here. They have to go somewhere. Plus day cares here are education centers not just babysitters. Our kids learn there.
And the term "Muslim" is miss used. They are religious zealots. Same as the Christian were in the crusade times. Same as any other form zealot in any time frame. If people actually studied history they would better understand and be able to stop such cultish offshoots. Don't blame all of any group for the actions of a few. That makes you a bigot!

 

[RobDownSouth]

Stop thinking. It was the ACLU that forced the closure of the nations mental health facilities via a series of Supreme Court ruling based on Habeas Corpus.

Ishmael

More lies from Ishmael.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm baffled by the mental health argument.
There was no mental health program in the 50's, 60's, 70's and there were guns in every house.
How many mass shootings were there?

Virtually none.

It took Fox News to focus Wingnut Nation's White Rage.

 

[Misshotndeep]

I'm baffled by the mental health argument.
There was no mental health program in the 50's, 60's, 70's and there were guns in every house.
How many mass shootings were there?

They locked everyone in asylums where they were abused and neglected. There was a mental health system. It was just more like a mid-evil dungeon than a medical facility.
In less advance countries they were just taken out back and killed. Babies drowned... Oh they have always had mentally ill. They just were not talked about during those time frames.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm baffled by the mental health argument.
There was no mental health program in the 50's, 60's, 70's and there were guns in every house.
How many mass shootings were there?

First you're simply wrong. There were mental health facilities and programs during those eras. They were terrible terrible places that we to this very day tell horror stories about! Where do you think the straight jackets and the men with the nice jackets took you when you spouted off nonsense?

Second population density has a lot to do with a lot of things. When you have a small anything, lets say work place of 100 guys everybody knows everybody, the same goes of course for schools and cities and in theory you could get a nation that small but I digress. If something is bothering Suzy people know. When you have an office of 1500 you have people in there you've never even met in passing much less give a shit about so things start to slip.

In addition you've simply got more people running around than you did before. If a guy open fires in a room of 100 people and kills 100% of them he got 100 people. (unrealistic I know but I'm making a point) if he walks into a room of 1500 and kills 15% he killed 150 people. So more targets=larger body count.

Regardless mental health is an entirely different issue.

 

[putzpotus]

You can all stop the bee ess

Its

MUSLIMS

 

[Misshotndeep]

You can all stop the bee ess

Its

MUSLIMS

If you insist bigot!

 

[miles]

The Imbicile in the WH calls for stronger gun safety laws.

He just can't stop saying stupid shit.