Trump

[JackLuis]

I really don't think Trump is going to be much of an issue.. Other than it will make for good political theater.

It will be fun to watch the candidates compete for who gets to drive the Clown Car.

Of course Trump will want the car to be Golden, like his hair... em... thingy.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Ain't that about the fucking truth.



Actually that's part of the blessing of being a Californian. I can honestly say I never voted for Obama if I wanted to play that game. It's not that I wouldn't it's why should I waste fifteen minutes of my day on something that's already gonna happen? And I don't think there were any initiatives I gave a shit about on either card.



According to Wiki Donald is set to be at the August 2015 debate. Which several well known Republicans aren't. I know it's not the best source and I didn't bother checking their citation (mostly cus I was really just checking to see if Trump was serious or not) but there it is.

She's a centrist, but so's Obama. But he's at least left (slightly) of center I'm pretty sure she's right of center and that most of the time she claims other wise are lies to make people feel better.



I don't see Bernie pulling her to the left, he can't win so she can safely ignore him.

Obama had a lot of obstacles, he made the mistake of thinking he could compromise but worse Democrats despite the claims of the right do not get marching orders or go in "goosestep" 60 (57 but who's counting) Democrats couldn't get their shit together and move in one direction and at least force the REpublicans to actually vote to block things. Herding cats sucks.

Hillary's definitely tacked to the left. I agree with everyone here, he won't get the nomination, but he's most certainly changed the conversation. I've never heard Hillary sound so much like Warren.

 

[hashtag45]

It will be fun to watch the candidates compete for who gets to drive the Clown Car.

Of course Trump will want the car to be Golden, like his hair... em... thingy.

but he got the girl, didn't he? (his wife)

sour grapes…

 

[Liar]

Donald Trump makes someone like Bobby Jindahl look like a statesman.

Hm... I think I may have stumbled upon the GOP strategy here...

 

[Sean Renaud]

If he drops out before the August debates, great but if he's still playing candidate by then the Democrats have to take a handicap and invite Tony Stark. No, not Robert Downey Jr.

 

[bobbyinhouston]

Please ask yourself one question, did Donald Trump become a billionaire (8.7) by being an idiot? At least he is not claiming poverty like someone once did.

 

[Paendragon]

Please ask yourself one question, did Donald Trump become a billionaire (8.7) by being an idiot? At least he is not claiming poverty like someone once did.

It's closer to $4.0 Billion which is still a hell of a lot of money. But that's Trump in a nutshell. He is the master of hyberbole, and of using his fame to make money. He puts his name on stuff, and by doing so has branded it. Even when he sells the property, they tend to keep the name. Look at Atlantic City . . . he only owns like ten percent of the company that owns and operates the three casinos that bear his name.

He's also got a great team of attorneys, which is how he was able to survive four corporate bankruptcies unscathed. Four. That's not unusual in the business world, and it's something that people forget when they think "if he can run a successful business, he can be President, because he can run the country like a business".

The US Government does not have the ability to declare bankruptcy.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Please ask yourself one question, did Donald Trump become a billionaire (8.7) by being an idiot? At least he is not claiming poverty like someone once did.

Not that the Clintons were actually claiming poverty but that's a second issue. No Trump didn't get to be a billionaire by being an idiot. But a business is not a country and the principles that govern one don't govern the other. Like at all. If he's president he'll be more a figure head than actually in charge. There's no firing Congress if they aren't doing what you think they should do. The closest work around there is would the EO.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Businessmen have no business in politics. We're in the quagmire we are in now only because businessmen are wielding their money to bend government so they can make more money. On.every.single.level. Wars for profit. Schools for profit. Prisons for profit. Deregulations across the board for profit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Businessmen have no business in politics. We're in the quagmire we are in now only because businessmen are wielding their money to bend government so they can make more money. On.every.single.level. Wars for profit. Schools for profit. Prisons for profit. Deregulations across the board for profit.

In fairness your point is an entirely separate issue. I don't want our government bought and paid for but I do want businessmen in the ear of politicians because frankly most of us simply lack the knowledge to make decisions at that level.

Business men should not be in politics because countries aren't businesses and vice versa however.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Trump=Businessman

In fairness your point is an entirely separate issue. I don't want our government bought and paid for but I do want businessmen in the ear of politicians because frankly most of us simply lack the knowledge to make decisions at that level.

Business men should not be in politics because countries aren't businesses and vice versa however.

Granted it is a simplistic yet completely true overview but we're talking about Trump here. I think you're way off that people outside of the business/for profit world can "make decisions at that level". No offense (ready for an offensive comment?) I find that rather insulting and I own my own business. There's zero correlation between turning a profit and the ability to govern.

 

[hashtag45]

God help us all, american polititics…

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dpYdapZUU1c

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WW_nDFKAmCo

 

[Sean Renaud]

Granted it is a simplistic yet completely true overview but we're talking about Trump here. I think you're way off that people outside of the business/for profit world can "make decisions at that level". No offense (ready for an offensive comment?) I find that rather insulting and I own my own business. There's zero correlation between turning a profit and the ability to govern.

Sorry. I know we are talking about Trump but it is often brought up (primarily by Republicans) that having run a successful business is a plus to being in politics. But in a business especially one that is privately owned instead of publically traded your effectively a dictator. That's a whole different situation than having to negotiate with Congress.

I run my own business as well. And I apologize, I was unclear. I don't want them running the country, I do want them (and I mean big businesses) at least getting to be heard. How much do you really understand about international trade? And how much do you think the average person walking the streets does? There is a visceral reaction to "they took our jobs!" but the situation isn't that simple.

If we're talking strictly about the president and not government as a whole (I do want Congress filled primarily with Lawyers for example. You're writing law you should damn well understand it) then I want people who are known negotiators who can bring people together. That's really what your job entails, you have experts to consult on literally everything. You're the Commander in Chief and yeah you get the final say on things but nobody expects you to come up with the strategy as a whole, just to sign off on it at the end. You may or may not have the credentials ( I am aware that some Generals have become presidents) doesn't change the facts. Nor on dozens of other issues.

 

[renard_ruse]

"I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. … Ross Perot isn’t successful like me. Romney — I have a Gucci store that’s worth more than Romney."

Damn this is going to be one fucking fun Republican primary season. It is going to be a massive crush to see who can be the most to the right on the most issues by being massively WRONG about everything.

Truth is surely stranger than fiction.

No, not at all, but that's what the establishment liberal hate media and its volunteers "useful idiots" on the internet will portray it as.

Trump is pretty cool, but there's so many good candidates. Rand Paul is better though.

 

[JackLuis]

Trump is pretty cool, but there's so many good candidates. Rand Paul is better though.

You poor deluded cupcake, shakes head.

 

[hashtag45]

still not getting american politics…
they have good people like Elizabeth Warren ,
yet they'll end up with a clown (like Trump) and a corporatist (like Hillary) in the finals

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The collection of wannabes reminds me of the Hollywood Squares game show.
President Obama, in the center square!

Or the grid used for the Brady Bunch!

Which Far Right lunatic is crying about Marsha, Marsha, Marsha ?
(Hilary, Hilary, Hilary ?)

"Three in a square: Nine squares didn't always equal nine celebrities. Sometimes there were plural squares. Bill & Susan Seaforth Hayes (Days of Our Lives), pop duo England Dan and John Ford Coley, and even Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble are among the notable duos who appeared in the same square. All four Lennon Sisters appeared (two each in two squares). There was a lot of doubling up during theme weeks (devoted to shows like Eight is Enough and Dallas). In addition, three of the Monkees (Micky Dolenz, Davy Jones, Michael Nesmith) crammed behind one desk in December 1969, and the Hudson Brothers comedy trio did the same in the mid 1970s."

http://www.classicsquares.com/squarefacts.html

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11471653

Puerto Rican actress Roselyn Sanchez has withdrawn as host of the Miss USA 2015 contest after Donald Trump "insulted" Mexicans in remarks he gave in his address launching his presidential bid.

"I was very excited and proud to have been invited to participate in Miss USA, but as a Latina, that is now inconceivable," Sanchez said in a statement.

"Although I am not Mexican, I am Puerto Rican and a proud Latina, and his comments were an insult to our culture. I won't sponsor anything produced by Donald Trump," she said.

Her decision comes a few hours after Univision, America's top Spanish-language TV network, announced it was breaking its association with the Trump organisation to broadcast the beauty contest for the same reason, along with the refusal of Colombian singer J Balvin to host the July 12 competition because of Trump's remarks.

The US real estate magnate said in his speech launching his campaign that "when Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.

 

[MatthewVett]

I've got lots of issues with Hillary, mostly I think she's a Republican who runs as a Democrat because how the fuck would it look if a couple were parts of different parties. I don't believe her when she talks about the wealth gap, I think if you ignore say Huckabee she's everybit as happy to go to war as any of them, I don't see her closing GITMO or even maintaining Obama's status quo on torture. She'll probably find herself the lesser of two evils mind you but I'm also blessed and cursed as a Californian. We make a huge part of the decision but our votes as individuals don't count for shit. We get FUCKED by the system.

As for Bernie he's just not electable. I mean we might as well start seeing if we can get Harry Potter elected. At least he has bipartisan support.

In 2007, most people probably wouldn't have thought a black man was electable. I think Bernie's got a good shot. He definitely has more of a likelihood of support from Republicans and Independents than Hillary.

 

[MatthewVett]

still not getting american politics…
they have good people like Elizabeth Warren ,
yet they'll end up with a clown (like Trump) and a corporatist (like Hillary) in the finals

If you like Warren, check out Bernie Sanders.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I didn't actually hear his exact words until today. They're worth quoting.

"The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

He's certain of the drugs, crimes and rapists. He assumes some are good.

It's a big deal for a Puerto Rican to do this for statements made about Mexicans. At least where I am from.

 

[JBCorbell]

Actually having Donald Trump as a candidate is a good thing.

He reminds Americans and people all over the world of the level of stupidity that American politics can descend to.

 

[Beco]

"I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. … Ross Perot isn’t successful like me. Romney — I have a Gucci store that’s worth more than Romney."

Damn this is going to be one fucking fun Republican primary season. It is going to be a massive crush to see who can be the most to the right on the most issues by being massively WRONG about everything.

Truth is surely stranger than fiction.

Thank god!

 

[sr71plt]

Actually having Donald Trump as a candidate is a good thing.

He reminds Americans and people all over the world of the level of stupidity that American politics can descend to.

Conversely, it shows the breadth of people who can be given a shot at leadership at the national leadership level. There aren't too many other countries that open. The American people are only stupid if that vote a Donald Trump in--and then only the ones who voted for him are.

 

[Beco]

He seems to have pissed off hispanics.....