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And, if you don't agree with me...
YOU WANT CHILDREN TO STARVE!!!
YOU WANT CHILDREN TO STARVE!!!
the real reason Dumz n Libz don't vaccinate their kids
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And, if you don't agree with me...
YOU WANT CHILDREN TO STARVE!!!
and KILL COLORED youngsters who have their HANDS up, while eating SKITTLES
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Sure, the reasons used by conservatards:
Don't need no gubmit telling me how ta raise mah kids!
Jeezuz & da Bible sez dem vac-sin-ations are how da satan steals yer soul!
It all a plot by da bilburgers & duh illum-in-naughty at the UN to bring on da NEW WORLD ORDER!
Note: I live in a BIG RED STATE (Texas), so yes, I hear this sorta stupid shit drop out of the mouths of tea-partiers & Christian conservatives on a near daily basis.
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I highly doubt that.
By now they've learned to avoid you...
By now they've learned to avoid you...
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yes, WINGS (eyes wide shut, ears plugged) ITS DA LIBZ
Yeah, More GIPMPZ n REE TARDZ
Highest Rates Of Non-Vaccinated U.S. Schoolchildren: California’s Ultra-Liberal Marin County…
Hmmm, so Obama was pandering to his liberal base when he made his anti-vaccination remarks in 2008? Shocker.
Via BuzzFeed:
…Observers have rolled their eyes with disgust and familiarity: These politicians are seeking the Republican nomination for president, and the primary process does often involve pandering to fringe elements of one’s own party.
But who are these people pandering to? What part, exactly, of the Republican coalition so opposes mandatory requirements that, in the context of a measles outbreak, vaccination is a compromise issue?
Because here’s the truth: This is largely a liberal fringe issue.
The people not vaccinating their kids against the diseases once declared defeated don’t live in South Carolina or Indiana or a particularly conservative part of Ohio or Florida. That isn’t where people are contracting the whooping cough, like it’s goddamn Little Women.
No, the strongholds are in places like Newport Beach, Santa Monica, and Marin County, California. The affluent, the educated, the enlightened, the ones who believe in purity and science — people in liberal enclaves are the ones rejecting one of the 20th century’s major scientific achievements.
Half of the children that attend some schools in Marin (median income: $90,839), the county’s health officer told the New York Times last week, are unvaccinated. People don’t want toxins in their children’s blood.
“It’s good to explore alternatives rather than go with the panic of everyone around you,” the mother of two unvaccinated children told the Times. “Vaccines don’t feel right for me and my family.”
Yeah, More GIPMPZ n REE TARDZ
Highest Rates Of Non-Vaccinated U.S. Schoolchildren: California’s Ultra-Liberal Marin County…
Hmmm, so Obama was pandering to his liberal base when he made his anti-vaccination remarks in 2008? Shocker.
Via BuzzFeed:
…Observers have rolled their eyes with disgust and familiarity: These politicians are seeking the Republican nomination for president, and the primary process does often involve pandering to fringe elements of one’s own party.
But who are these people pandering to? What part, exactly, of the Republican coalition so opposes mandatory requirements that, in the context of a measles outbreak, vaccination is a compromise issue?
Because here’s the truth: This is largely a liberal fringe issue.
The people not vaccinating their kids against the diseases once declared defeated don’t live in South Carolina or Indiana or a particularly conservative part of Ohio or Florida. That isn’t where people are contracting the whooping cough, like it’s goddamn Little Women.
No, the strongholds are in places like Newport Beach, Santa Monica, and Marin County, California. The affluent, the educated, the enlightened, the ones who believe in purity and science — people in liberal enclaves are the ones rejecting one of the 20th century’s major scientific achievements.
Half of the children that attend some schools in Marin (median income: $90,839), the county’s health officer told the New York Times last week, are unvaccinated. People don’t want toxins in their children’s blood.
“It’s good to explore alternatives rather than go with the panic of everyone around you,” the mother of two unvaccinated children told the Times. “Vaccines don’t feel right for me and my family.”
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huh, that is interesting. I bet most "undocumented immigrants" aren't vaccinated.
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The Democrat/Media Complex Attacks: Vaccinations Are the New Birth Control. And the Evil Republicans want your kids to dieeeeee!
Jenny McCarthy and RFK Jr. are not Tea Partiers, whatever the Times’ Democratic-Operatives-With-Bylines want people to believe. But if the GOP doesn’t counterattack on this, it will become established truth by November of 2016.
Counterattacks should include demanding immunizations for all illegal immigrants, and a check on vaccination status for welfare recipients. And liability for tony private schools that don’t require vaccination. . . .
STILL MORE: Flashback: Hillary’s 1993 Attack On Vaccine Manufacturers.
EVEN MORE: Hollywood Reporter: Vaccination rates are plummeting at top Hollywood schools, from Malibu to Beverly Hills, from John Thomas Dye to Turning Point, where affluent, educated parents are opting out in shocking numbers. With an interactive map.
FINALLY: Well, well. Obama’s budget cuts $50 million from a vaccine program for the underinsured.
Jenny McCarthy and RFK Jr. are not Tea Partiers, whatever the Times’ Democratic-Operatives-With-Bylines want people to believe. But if the GOP doesn’t counterattack on this, it will become established truth by November of 2016.
Counterattacks should include demanding immunizations for all illegal immigrants, and a check on vaccination status for welfare recipients. And liability for tony private schools that don’t require vaccination. . . .
STILL MORE: Flashback: Hillary’s 1993 Attack On Vaccine Manufacturers.
EVEN MORE: Hollywood Reporter: Vaccination rates are plummeting at top Hollywood schools, from Malibu to Beverly Hills, from John Thomas Dye to Turning Point, where affluent, educated parents are opting out in shocking numbers. With an interactive map.
FINALLY: Well, well. Obama’s budget cuts $50 million from a vaccine program for the underinsured.
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The Atlantic: Wealthy L.A. Schools’ Vaccination Rates Are as Low as South Sudan’s. Hollywood parents say not vaccinating makes “instinctive” sense. Now their kids have whooping cough. Stupid anti-science Bible-belters.
Meanwhile, Deaf Dumb and Blind, ole WINGS tells us
ITS NOT LIBZ
Meanwhile, Deaf Dumb and Blind, ole WINGS tells us
ITS NOT LIBZ
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The science is settled
(except for DEAF DUMB AND (baby killer) BLIND, WINGS)
ScienceInsider
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Why the 'Prius Driving, Composting' Set Fears Vaccines
Journalist Seth Mnookin's new book, The Panic Virus: A True Story of Medicine, Science, and Fear, explores the public health scare over vaccines and autism. The 1998 paper in The Lancet by British physician Andrew Wakefield that sparked the panic has long since been debunked and retracted, and Wakefield himself has been barred from practicing medicine and accused of fraud. But that hasn't stopped thousands of people from refusing to vaccinate their children out of fear that they could become autistic.
Mnookin warns of grave consequences. Recent outbreaks of measles, whooping cough, and other preventable infections have sickened thousands of children and killed more than a dozen in the United States. Vaccine rates are falling below the level needed to prevent an outbreak in a growing number of communities, including ones with wealthy, educated populations.
Last week, Mnookin spoke with ScienceInsider about why.
Q: There's a perception that vaccine refusal is especially common among affluent, well-educated, politically liberal parents—is there any truth to that?
S.M.: It's dangerous to make broad generalizations about a group, but anecdotally and from the overall data that's been collected it seems to be people who are very actively involved in every possible decision regarding their children's lives. I think it relates to a desire to take uncertainty out of the equation. And autism represents such an unknown. We still don't know what causes it and we still don't have good answers for how to treat it. So I think that fear really resonates.
Also I think there's a fair amount of entitlement. Not vaccinating your child is basically saying I deserve to rely on the herd immunity that exists in a population. At the most basic level it's saying I believe vaccines are potentially harmful, and I want other people to vaccinate so I don't have to. And for people to hide under this and say, "Oh, it's just a personal decision," it's being dishonest. It's a personal decision in the way drunk driving is a personal decision. It has the potential to affect everyone around you.
Q: But why liberals?
S.M.: I think it taps into the organic natural movement in a lot of ways.
I talked to a public health official and asked him what's the best way to anticipate where there might be higher than normal rates of vaccine noncompliance, and he said take a map and put a pin wherever there's a Whole Foods. I sort of laughed, and he said, "No, really, I'm not joking." It's those communities with the Prius driving, composting, organic food-eating people.
Q: In society as a whole, why does there continue to be so much fear of vaccines?
S.M.: I think there are a bunch of different answers to that. A really big one is that the fears of the repercussions of not vaccinating have become notional. Most people in our generation don't know people who had polio or don't know families where a child was blinded by rubella. So when there's any concern at all about vaccines, no matter how ungrounded in scientific evidence, it's like you're taking an infinitesimal risk against what almost seems like no risk.
Q: In the book you take the media to task for keeping the autism-vaccine "controversy" alive. Why?
S.M.: If there's one group that deserves blame for this it's the press. I completely understand where parents are coming from, both parents who believe their kids were harmed and parents who are worried about what might happen to their children. I don't believe the medical community and public health community have handled it well, but that wasn't out of incompetence or irresponsibility. The media did a horrible job and should have known better.
Q: How so?
S.M.: Well, for example, with Wakefield's initial Lancet paper, it should have been clear to any science reporter that there was no way to draw the conclusion he did from that study. Even if his data were reliable, even if none of the issues of selection bias and fraud had ever come up, drawing huge, broad conclusions from a 12-person case study is absolutely preposterous. The story in the next day's paper should have been what is this researcher doing, making these public health recommendations that are irresponsible and don't have grounding in science. To use the excuse, as the media has done, that we're just presenting both sides of issue is a total cop-out.
Q: Are there broader lessons here about how bad information can become so pervasive?
S.M.: There was a University of Michigan study a couple years ago where subjects were given a list of 20 statements about the flu vaccine, 10 of which they were told [were] true, 10 of which they were told were false. Ten minutes later they could identify which were true with a high degree of accuracy, but that went down precipitously with time. So the results would seem to indicate that merely hearing something, even in the context of hearing it isn't true, that concept gets introduced into your mental framework in a way that lends you to give that idea more credence. You can see this with all sorts of urban myths.
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(except for DEAF DUMB AND (baby killer) BLIND, WINGS)
ScienceInsider
Breaking news and analysis from the world of science policy
Why the 'Prius Driving, Composting' Set Fears Vaccines
Journalist Seth Mnookin's new book, The Panic Virus: A True Story of Medicine, Science, and Fear, explores the public health scare over vaccines and autism. The 1998 paper in The Lancet by British physician Andrew Wakefield that sparked the panic has long since been debunked and retracted, and Wakefield himself has been barred from practicing medicine and accused of fraud. But that hasn't stopped thousands of people from refusing to vaccinate their children out of fear that they could become autistic.
Mnookin warns of grave consequences. Recent outbreaks of measles, whooping cough, and other preventable infections have sickened thousands of children and killed more than a dozen in the United States. Vaccine rates are falling below the level needed to prevent an outbreak in a growing number of communities, including ones with wealthy, educated populations.
Last week, Mnookin spoke with ScienceInsider about why.
Q: There's a perception that vaccine refusal is especially common among affluent, well-educated, politically liberal parents—is there any truth to that?
S.M.: It's dangerous to make broad generalizations about a group, but anecdotally and from the overall data that's been collected it seems to be people who are very actively involved in every possible decision regarding their children's lives. I think it relates to a desire to take uncertainty out of the equation. And autism represents such an unknown. We still don't know what causes it and we still don't have good answers for how to treat it. So I think that fear really resonates.
Also I think there's a fair amount of entitlement. Not vaccinating your child is basically saying I deserve to rely on the herd immunity that exists in a population. At the most basic level it's saying I believe vaccines are potentially harmful, and I want other people to vaccinate so I don't have to. And for people to hide under this and say, "Oh, it's just a personal decision," it's being dishonest. It's a personal decision in the way drunk driving is a personal decision. It has the potential to affect everyone around you.
Q: But why liberals?
S.M.: I think it taps into the organic natural movement in a lot of ways.
I talked to a public health official and asked him what's the best way to anticipate where there might be higher than normal rates of vaccine noncompliance, and he said take a map and put a pin wherever there's a Whole Foods. I sort of laughed, and he said, "No, really, I'm not joking." It's those communities with the Prius driving, composting, organic food-eating people.
Q: In society as a whole, why does there continue to be so much fear of vaccines?
S.M.: I think there are a bunch of different answers to that. A really big one is that the fears of the repercussions of not vaccinating have become notional. Most people in our generation don't know people who had polio or don't know families where a child was blinded by rubella. So when there's any concern at all about vaccines, no matter how ungrounded in scientific evidence, it's like you're taking an infinitesimal risk against what almost seems like no risk.
Q: In the book you take the media to task for keeping the autism-vaccine "controversy" alive. Why?
S.M.: If there's one group that deserves blame for this it's the press. I completely understand where parents are coming from, both parents who believe their kids were harmed and parents who are worried about what might happen to their children. I don't believe the medical community and public health community have handled it well, but that wasn't out of incompetence or irresponsibility. The media did a horrible job and should have known better.
Q: How so?
S.M.: Well, for example, with Wakefield's initial Lancet paper, it should have been clear to any science reporter that there was no way to draw the conclusion he did from that study. Even if his data were reliable, even if none of the issues of selection bias and fraud had ever come up, drawing huge, broad conclusions from a 12-person case study is absolutely preposterous. The story in the next day's paper should have been what is this researcher doing, making these public health recommendations that are irresponsible and don't have grounding in science. To use the excuse, as the media has done, that we're just presenting both sides of issue is a total cop-out.
Q: Are there broader lessons here about how bad information can become so pervasive?
S.M.: There was a University of Michigan study a couple years ago where subjects were given a list of 20 statements about the flu vaccine, 10 of which they were told [were] true, 10 of which they were told were false. Ten minutes later they could identify which were true with a high degree of accuracy, but that went down precipitously with time. So the results would seem to indicate that merely hearing something, even in the context of hearing it isn't true, that concept gets introduced into your mental framework in a way that lends you to give that idea more credence. You can see this with all sorts of urban myths.
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Ole Wingy Dinky and fellow LIBZ aint welcome in Nigeria
Where they are MORE scrared of Americans then BOKO HAREM
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-03-at-10.18.16-PM-600x323.png
Where they are MORE scrared of Americans then BOKO HAREM
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-03-at-10.18.16-PM-600x323.png
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You have hit upon a clear truth here, which is that both from dumb-ass redneck fundamentalists on one side and dumb-ass hippy-shit crystals and new-age bullshit hollywood types, science is under attack. That doesn't make either side right. They both need to be culled for the good of society.
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http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/vacc-rate-2012-electoral-map-2-3-15-4-sml.gifCheck out his cool overlay graphic of places that supported Obama vs. places where there are a lot of unvaccinated kids. . .
Ole WINGY Dinky will soon cum here to shout
Its NOT the LIBZ
its FUX news and RUSH LIMBAUGH!...I blame BUSH!
Ole WINGY Dinky will soon cum here to shout
Its NOT the LIBZ
its FUX news and RUSH LIMBAUGH!...I blame BUSH!
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I blame Hussein Obola and CuntClinton
More than 100 countries have a higher measles immunization rate than the U.S. http://ti.me/16lof2P
More than 100 countries have a higher measles immunization rate than the U.S. http://ti.me/16lof2P
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link that they are?
show me
its OK
I'll wait
Sorry to keep you waiting all of 5 minutes.
My italics. Full story from The Huffington Post.
So it's those small government tea party types who are overall less likely to vaccinate, in spite of a few idiotic hippy Hollywood commune types.
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Culling is a bit extreme. Calling them out on their idiocy and making them defend their stupidity is, while more work, also a lot funnier.
Idiocy & ignorance spread, in many ways, like a disease. The best vaccination against is demonstrable knowledge, logic & reason. It's not a great analogy, but I think it works okay in this context.
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that was the fucked up SWINE FLU shit
not vaccinations
thx for playing
the drawingboard is here http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140830223703/lapis/images/6/62/Drawing-Board.jpgtry again
but please, still scream
RIGHT WING RED NECKS
oh
and where did you see RIGHT WING RED NECKS in that HuffoPiece?
Tell me
its ok
I'll wait
not vaccinations
thx for playing
the drawingboard is here http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140830223703/lapis/images/6/62/Drawing-Board.jpgtry again
but please, still scream
RIGHT WING RED NECKS
oh
and where did you see RIGHT WING RED NECKS in that HuffoPiece?
Tell me
its ok
I'll wait
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In the foot and mouth outbreak in the UK, culling was seen as preferable to vaccination. I'm just saying it's an option we shouldn't take off the table...
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To be fair, the hippy types seem to have to work much harder to maintain their ignorance.
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oh
and where did you see RIGHT WING RED NECKS in that HuffoPiece?
Tell me
its ok
I'll wait
Stil waiting
Tick tick
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that was the fucked up SWINE FLU shit
not vaccinations
thx for playing
the drawingboard is here http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140830223703/lapis/images/6/62/Drawing-Board.jpgtry again
but please, still scream
RIGHT WING RED NECKS
oh
and where did you see RIGHT WING RED NECKS in that HuffoPiece?
Tell me
its ok
I'll wait
Did you read it? Of course it was about vaccinations - the H1N1 vaccinations. Or do only some kinds of vaccinations count in your mind (and I use the word 'mind' quite wrongly there)?
And I saw the word Republican quite clearly. The distinction between Republicans and right-wing rednecks is not, to most non-US citizens, an especially visible one.
