Why are Moses and Rameses white?

[toubab]

Who ruled Britain in those times?

The Roman conquest of Britain occurred in 43 AD, I believe.

 

[toubab]

One thing is for certain, Egyptians didn't look like Reverend Al or James Brown.

Maybe some did, in Upper Egypt.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The Roman conquest of Britain occurred in 43 AD, I believe.

Julius Caesar was in Britain back in 54BC

 

[toubab]

Julius Caesar was in Britain back in 54BC

Didn't stay long.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

https://oi.uchicago.edu/sites/oi.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/shared/images/archive/museum/nubia/AEP79.jpg

Maybe some did, in Upper Egypt.

Black Egyptians. The artists obviously made distinctions between races.

 

[toubab]

https://oi.uchicago.edu/sites/oi.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/shared/images/archive/museum/nubia/AEP79.jpg


Black Egyptians. The artists obviously made distinctions between races.

I recall seeing DNA test results of modern Egyptians showing they are about 18% black, on average. Sub-Saharan black. The balance white, or Caucasian, mostly European, but also Middle Eastern, as I recall.

 

[ishtat]

Just being helpful.

For Kitty: The Sumerians called themselves " the black headed people" - like Dorper sheep?

For Box: "the time of Moses." Neither you nor anyone else knows when that time was. Moses is an Egyptian name - not Jewish at all, and his first wife was from Southern Egypt/Sudan, thus almost certainly black and not Jewish - but it appears he soon dumped her.

Rameses, which one? There were eleven Pharoahs of that name..

For Kitty again: All the blonde/blacks you showed were either Melanesian or Australian Aborigines who arrived in the South Pacific some 40,000 to 50,000 years before Egyptian civilisation.

For JBJ: The Egyptians never recorded the Hebrews presence in Egypt and no archeological evidence of any description has ever been found to support their (biblically )alleged presence of 400 years.

The Romans never invaded Britain until 10 years after they nailed up JC. (43AD), though Mary does seem to like blue and the Brits were into Woad as a fashion accessory at the time.

 

[Nubian_Legend]

I recall seeing DNA test results of modern Egyptians showing they are about 18% black, on average. Sub-Saharan black. The balance white, or Caucasian, mostly European, but also Middle Eastern, as I recall.

The "operative" word here being modern. This on the other hand is a movie about "ancient egyptians". No ones going to debate that current Egypt populattion is the result of admixturing with invading parties over a long period of time but all I ask is that don't t my suspension of disbelief to levels, but these are the same people who gave us "abraham lincoln: vampire hunter. That's like a movie about the Mayans and there being a bunch of random white dudes for some reason.

I heard a rumor that Steve Mcqueen was direction an egypt movie with Idris Elba and Lupita Nyongo as leads, now that's a movie I'd pay to see. This Exodus movie just looks so predictable.

 

[toubab]

The "operative" word here being modern. This on the other hand is a movie about "ancient egyptians". No ones going to debate that current Egypt populattion is the result of admixturing with invading parties over a long period of time but all I ask is that don't t my suspension of disbelief to levels, but these are the same people who gave us "abraham lincoln: vampire hunter. That's like a movie about the Mayans and there being a bunch of random white dudes for some reason.

I heard a rumor that Steve Mcqueen was direction an egypt movie with Idris Elba and Lupita Nyongo as leads, now that's a movie I'd pay to see. This Exodus movie just looks so predictable.

Yes, as I said before, no one can say for certain what Egyptians of three or four thousand years ago looked like, on average. We do have a good idea of what some of them looked like, such as Ramses the Great, from his mummy, and Nefertiti, from her bust, but they could hardly be considered typical.

 

[Nubian_Legend]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3pTqwupOXPyrOAjJ0_dEVbxo_iKxd2ftmmam0axbgOMFrVJQh5A

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Ancient%20Kemet%208/miniaturefeaturingmenatworkinfoodstorag.jpg


Modern day Afar man

http://lvvfsa.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pSPbV4UGXcQSfl3UesJhwKJBw-Cuo6daSOmIq3RsxLaiwk4i9bVb6wuxGJRBSD2EnXq1ZRzYLoiYt5z9kROgmiA/butter%20melt.jpg?psid=1

Seti I

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2639/4093317166_7c71781a8b.jpg

Afar man

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/2915106834_a8f1b9e1e7.jpg


http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Ancient%20Kemet%206/Funerarystatueofamaninpaintedebony11thdynastyGulbenkianMuswikmedfliks.jpg

Obviously a white woman has to say it for people to believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKrgzCDb-Xs

Previously, the Afro comb wasn't very visible. And for this reason it has been assumed that the afro comb was invented in the 1970s. But a new exhibition blows that myth out the water. The afro comb dates back to ancient Egypt. The oldest comb from the collection is 5,500 years old.

The hundreds of combs on display show that over time the style hasn't changed. The comb, sometimes called a pick, is commonly upright with long teeth. Sometimes a motif decorates the top. In ancient times it often referenced cultural belonging, and there are artifacts showing how people wore the comb in the hair. Time marches on and culture is always in transition. But perhaps not at the speed we assume.

http://www.originsoftheafrocomb.co.uk/combs/timeline.html

 

[toubab]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3pTqwupOXPyrOAjJ0_dEVbxo_iKxd2ftmmam0axbgOMFrVJQh5A

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Ancient%20Kemet%208/miniaturefeaturingmenatworkinfoodstorag.jpg


Modern day Afar man

http://lvvfsa.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pSPbV4UGXcQSfl3UesJhwKJBw-Cuo6daSOmIq3RsxLaiwk4i9bVb6wuxGJRBSD2EnXq1ZRzYLoiYt5z9kROgmiA/butter%20melt.jpg?psid=1

Seti I

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2639/4093317166_7c71781a8b.jpg

Afar man

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/beyoku/2915106834_a8f1b9e1e7.jpg


http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Ancient%20Kemet%206/Funerarystatueofamaninpaintedebony11thdynastyGulbenkianMuswikmedfliks.jpg

Obviously a white woman has to say it for people to believe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKrgzCDb-Xs



http://www.originsoftheafrocomb.co.uk/combs/timeline.html

I think everyone recognizes there were Egyptians of different races three or four thousand years ago. Or they should. And they were all Africans, obviously.

 

[CandiCame]

For Kitty: The Sumerians called themselves " the black headed people" - like Dorper sheep?

For Box: "the time of Moses." Neither you nor anyone else knows when that time was. Moses is an Egyptian name - not Jewish at all, and his first wife was from Southern Egypt/Sudan, thus almost certainly black and not Jewish - but it appears he soon dumped her.

Rameses, which one? There were eleven Pharoahs of that name..

For Kitty again: All the blonde/blacks you showed were either Melanesian or Australian Aborigines who arrived in the South Pacific some 40,000 to 50,000 years before Egyptian civilisation.

For JBJ: The Egyptians never recorded the Hebrews presence in Egypt and no archeological evidence of any description has ever been found to support their (biblically )alleged presence of 400 years.

The Romans never invaded Britain until 10 years after they nailed up JC. (43AD), though Mary does seem to like blue and the Brits were into Woad as a fashion accessory at the time.

Rameses II, just to answer that question is the one that would have been in the movie.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

For Kitty: The Sumerians called themselves " the black headed people" - like Dorper sheep?

For Box: "the time of Moses." Neither you nor anyone else knows when that time was. Moses is an Egyptian name - not Jewish at all, and his first wife was from Southern Egypt/Sudan, thus almost certainly black and not Jewish - but it appears he soon dumped her.

Rameses, which one? There were eleven Pharoahs of that name..

For Kitty again: All the blonde/blacks you showed were either Melanesian or Australian Aborigines who arrived in the South Pacific some 40,000 to 50,000 years before Egyptian civilisation.

For JBJ: The Egyptians never recorded the Hebrews presence in Egypt and no archeological evidence of any description has ever been found to support their (biblically )alleged presence of 400 years.

The Romans never invaded Britain until 10 years after they nailed up JC. (43AD), though Mary does seem to like blue and the Brits were into Woad as a fashion accessory at the time.

Romer points the omissions out in his history of Palestine in the Biblical times. Later scholars refuted popular myths about Jesus: He wasn't born in Bethlehem, there was no synagogue in Nazareth, etc. But his pedigree is firm. Oh! In Biblical times all females were virgins till they became pregnant.

If Julius was in Britain a century earlier than 43AD I s'pose you got it wrong.

 

[CandiCame]

Romer points the omissions out in his history of Palestine in the Biblical times. Later scholars refuted popular myths about Jesus: He wasn't born in Bethlehem, there was no synagogue in Nazareth, etc. But his pedigree is firm. Oh! In Biblical times all females were virgins till they became pregnant.

Well... virginity wasn't really a thing. Almah means a woman who is of childbearing age but doesn't have kids. It's the equivalent of "young woman". You can be married and fucking your brains out and still be a almah. All it means is you've hit puberty but haven't had kids yet. It has nothing to do with sex. So... nobody ever claimed that Mary was a virgin because as far as I know, and I'm not a Hebrew scholar, this is no word in ancient Hebrew for 'virgin' because it wasn't really a concept at the time so there was no reason to have a descriptor for that. So it's not that they were all considered virgins it's that the concept of virginity didn't really exist. There's a difference between 'not a mother' and 'not a virgin' that has to be made that wasn't really made in your statement. At least, in the way that we would think about it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

For the same reason artists' conceptions of Jesus never seem to look very Jewish, I suppose.

 

[Boxlicker101]

For Kitty: The Sumerians called themselves " the black headed people" - like Dorper sheep?

For Box: "the time of Moses." Neither you nor anyone else knows when that time was. Moses is an Egyptian name - not Jewish at all, and his first wife was from Southern Egypt/Sudan, thus almost certainly black and not Jewish - but it appears he soon dumped her.

Rameses, which one? There were eleven Pharoahs of that name..

That's true, there were eleven over a period of about 200 years and none of them had any dealings with Greece or any other European nation. They did fight and make peace with other nations in Africa and in Asia, including Asia Minor, but never with Europe. That was no credit to the Europeans, who were not advanced enough to be noticed.

That changed, of course, when Big Al came a conquering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Niggers are desperate to be relevant but mostly they eat monkeys and bananas and fuck a lot.

 

[Kitty]

The pics you provided
so the mummie has no connection the Melanesian population nor do the Melanesian people have connection with the africa when it comes to hair color


The semitic people (arabs, jews, and others) are Causacian but by a european won't see them as such. Gaelic Irish dark features? what dark features?

This whole post was retarded. Why are you even here? Moving on.

 

[toubab]

For the same reason artists' conceptions of Jesus never seem to look very Jewish, I suppose.

You know, you're right. I've noticed lots of white Christians have a picture of Jesus on a wall in their home, and he never looks Jewish. And I've noticed lots of black Christians have a picture of Jesus on a wall of their home, and he still doesn't look Jewish. Maybe if I'm ever in the home of a Jewish person who has a picture of Jesus on his wall Jesus will look Jewish. But I doubt it.

 

[NYC_Man]

This whole post was retarded. Why are you even here? Moving on.

retarded would be the pics posted by you and hte claims you made

 

[Kitty]

To anyone who addressed me:


I was showing the blonde dark-skinned people just to show that there are black people who naturally have blonde hair



in response


to Vetteman's first photograph


of mummies with blonde hair and then presuming


that they are white, alluding to the presence of the blond hair.


All people with dark skin


originated from Africa.

It doesn't matter the time period or where they settled.

It is just proof that JUST because someone has blonde hair


it doesn't mean they were white.


So this was to contrast vetteman's implications that because there were mummies with blonde hair


they are white. False.

People always do this. When it's convenient, separate this black ethnicity from the other.

Any other time, "they are all niggers so what difference does it make?" Ugh.

 

[Kitty]

retarded would be the pics posted by you and hte claims you made

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!? Stop talking to me!!!!

 

[NYC_Man]

That's not limited to Meanesian folk tho. Lots of black folk have light hair. I don't think I've ever met a black person with hair as dark as mine that wasn't dyed. When people talk about 'black' hair, they're normally talking about texture, not color, which took a MILLION years to get used to because I have black hair and my gf has 'black' hair and we spent about 6 months having two different conversations. African American folk descended from slaves tend to have the widest variation of naturally occurring light hair color, their eumelanin and pheomelanin tend to have a lot in common with European levels and less with strait up African levels, which tend to be higher. The more phemelanin you have, the lighter your hair, the more eumelanin the darker. Those can vary so much and even fluctuate over the lifespan of a single person (some people are born with blond hair that darkens as they get older, for example) so just because you're baby's born blond, does not mean that an EXTREMELY dark, blue-black headed dark, man is not the biological father.

...not that I would ever have a reason to look this up or anything. Just... good to know.

never seen a black person with light hair
if it happens, is rare imo

 

[NYC_Man]

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!? Stop talking to me!!!!

u are the one quoting me and sending me private message

Behave or i will ignore your ass properly

 

[NYC_Man]

That's true, there were eleven over a period of about 200 years and none of them had any dealings with Greece or any other European nation. They did fight and make peace with other nations in Africa and in Asia, including Asia Minor, but never with Europe. That was no credit to the Europeans, who were not advanced enough to be noticed.

That changed, of course, when Big Al came a conquering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses

Mediterranean civilizations had dealings with each other long before Alexander was born and started conquering the rest of the world