So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?

Believe what you want. I've never underestimated the human ability to behave irrationally under the best of circumstances let alone under the influence of drugs.

I would also caution you that it's unwise to try to assign your own thought/decision making process to another individual. You'll be surprised at how often what you think and what they think are two different things.

Ishmael

Does Wilson's eye socket looked shattered to you?
 
Oh yeah. You also forgot that she was violently drunk and kicked the cop in the head first. Plus the entire encounter was captured on the dash cam audio.

Now I realize this doesn't fit your "all cops are the enemy" or "all cops are violent racists" shtick, but come on, you really need to take that big chip off your shoulder and actually look at the facts instead of believing the hyperbola of the race baiting assholes.

Stop being such a mindless putz...

Talk about assigning your take on another. It just fucking pic making a pretty simple point.
 
Does Wilson's eye socket looked shattered to you?

He doesn't have to go down and get xrayed to determine the effect of getting punched in the face to decide he doesn't want to get punched in the face again. An inbound fist is worthy of an armed response.

Your standard of how restrained a response needs to be is somewhere out in fantasy land. Punch a cop, at a minimum, your skull is going to bounce off the pavement and justifiably so. To big for that? You are getting shot.
 
There seems to be some weird idea that guns are to protect you from guns. Guns are there to keep the peace. They are effective at halting all attacks by guns, knives, bottles, rocks, clubs, shoes, feet and fists.

No one has a right to assault me. I do not need to take even a minor beating before I shoot you dead. If I baited you, you don't know I'm armed MAYBE I have something to answer for. You KNOW I am armed, especially with a badge to back that up and you still think you have some god-given right to visit me with violence? You need to die. Before you do that to someone else.

If someone is aware I am armed and behaving with aggression within 7 yards I would still shoot.

Just because a person thinks that they would tough guy it out in the same circumstances does not mean they can use words like murder when someone else exercises their right not to be assaulted.

^^^^Handguns embiggen the most cowardly of men.

#PewPewPew
#ScaryBlackMen
 
Oh yeah. You also forgot that she was violently drunk and kicked the cop in the head first. Plus the entire encounter was captured on the dash cam audio.

Now I realize this doesn't fit your "all cops are the enemy" or "all cops are violent racists" shtick, but come on, you really need to take that big chip off your shoulder and actually look at the facts instead of believing the hyperbola of the race baiting assholes.

Stop being such a mindless putz...

Heeeeyyyy. Fuckfaaaaaace.

This isn't about having a "chip on my shoulder" or being "a mindless putz" or "all cops being the enemy" or violent cops being a "schtick." Not about any of that self-serving bullshit you just squeezed out your back end because you ran out of toothpaste.

This is about Darren Wilson and how Wilson said he got punched repeatedly by a demon.

I can see the CLEAR CUT results from ONE FUCKING COP PUNCH so WHERE ARE THE DEMON'S BLOWS? Where are they?

I understand WHY you can't handle verity, but that ain't MY fucking problem.

Can you show me the receipts on his so-called injuries?

Can you?

Until then, his lying shitstain instant millionaire ass can go fuck itself and YOUR step-up-to-put-on-a-vinyl-Superman-cape can go try flying off the Golden Gate Bridge.


And if your ass can actually fly, or even simply glide for a minute and a half, I'll give you some handclaps for impressing me. How's that? :)
 
Does Wilson's eye socket looked shattered to you?

It may have escaped your notice but the whole 'shattered' mantra was retracted/corrected the very next day. Which is to say that that assertion did NOT come from the medical people, the only people qualified to make that determination. Nor did it come from Wilson, he didn't talk to the press for weeks.

Ishmael
 
Nor is it particularly relavent. We can argue that cops should be bad asses who aren't afraid of shit but once you're afraid for your life, you're afraid for your life and it's that simple. And Brown was a big kid, I don't care if he was a friendly giant if he was coming at me I'd probably stop being rational pretty quick.

The issue here is that the cop does have an obligation not to escalate the scenario which it sounds very much like he did and how long was Brown's body left in the street again?
 
The SCOTUS has upheld time and time again that the police have NO obligation to protect anyone or anything.

Ishmael

I'm sorry, but last I knew, the job of a police officer is to arrest anyone charged with a crime or do what they can to prevent the commuting of a crime... Guess that changed, & their job is now to commit the crimes themselves against the same humans they were once supposed to be protecting.

Also, regardless of occupation, I believed it was the responsibility of any individual to not intentionally attack another, &/or to stop attacks that are going on (Hence, "human" being a MAJOR part of the word "humane", & each having the meaning it does)... Again, seems ironic the people that were supposed to arrest the attackers have now become the attackers in many cases.
 
It may have escaped your notice but the whole 'shattered' mantra was retracted/corrected the very next day. Which is to say that that assertion did NOT come from the medical people, the only people qualified to make that determination. Nor did it come from Wilson, he didn't talk to the press for weeks.

Ishmael

It makes no difference when it was walked back. It is evidence of an attempt to cover up.
 
Wilson can't be blamed for silly rumors. There is no evidence he ever said he had a shattered eye socket.

All true... But there is evidence he shot the man, yet he serves no punishment. One is wrong, so there's no need for the result of the other to happen correctly.
 
All true... But there is evidence he shot the man, yet he serves no punishment. One is wrong, so there's no need for the result of the other to happen correctly.

It's not illegal to shoot someone in self defense.
 
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