The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown

[Dream59]

It seems unlikely that he'll turn out to be the victim but lets say that he does. The fact that cops kill minorities is still a huge problem in this country regardless of if this individual case turns out to be one of the exceptions.

Show me some figures that show that cops UNNECESSARILY kill minorities. It happens but rarely. But this individual case is the one being discussed, and it seems that most of the baiters on here have nothing but name calling going for them. The officer may in fact be guilty of what has been alleged, but to this point no one knows. The eyewitnesses are falling by the way side while even the people hired by the family are showing that the witnesses have lied. The best course of action is to let the investigation finish and then take a side. At least then people will have the information to make an informed judgment.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Your constant kowtowing to people that wish to make a racial incident out of anything makes you a credit to no one.

Ha! Shows what YOU know! Just yesterday, my bank said I have an outstanding balance!

#smug

 

[Dream59]

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j370/Jezey/Laughing%20Crying%20Gifs/laugh.gif

bwahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yer a funny guy, Dreamy! A friggin' pistol, I tells ya!

So you know something no one else knows? Why don't you share it.

 

[Dream59]

Ha! Shows what YOU know! Just yesterday, my bank said I have an outstanding balance!

#smug

LOL I can't help myself. Good retort.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Show me some figures that show that cops UNNECESSARILY kill minorities. It happens but rarely. But this individual case is the one being discussed, and it seems that most of the baiters on here have nothing but name calling going for them. The officer may in fact be guilty of what has been alleged, but to this point no one knows. The eyewitnesses are falling by the way side while even the people hired by the family are showing that the witnesses have lied. The best course of action is to let the investigation finish and then take a side. At least then people will have the information to make an informed judgment.

Oh lookee, now the bar's been moved to UNNECESSARILY killed minorities. Tres Zipmanesque goalpost movin' there, officer!

Your devotion to the law-enforcement-can-do-no-wrong meme is charming. I wonder how many wife beaters and drunk drivers you covered for when they flashed a badge at you? Round up to the nearest ten.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Show me some figures that show that cops UNNECESSARILY kill minorities. It happens but rarely. But this individual case is the one being discussed, and it seems that most of the baiters on here have nothing but name calling going for them. The officer may in fact be guilty of what has been alleged, but to this point no one knows. The eyewitnesses are falling by the way side while even the people hired by the family are showing that the witnesses have lied. The best course of action is to let the investigation finish and then take a side. At least then people will have the information to make an informed judgment.

There are no figures because in every case you're going to say they were justified. The cop may or may not be guilty, the riot isn't about this case though. This case is the flashpoint. The problem is the community does not feel protected by their police and this is a common theme for blacks around the country. It's not just when you kill us. When we get pulled over for no reason, when we get stopped and frisked because being black warrants it all of that adds up.

 

[RobDownSouth]

LOL I can't help myself. Good retort.

Steve Stifler on Twitter. I steal most of my good comebacks from him.
:nods:

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So you know something no one else knows? Why don't you share it.

I just thought that it's hilarious you think could Wilson be a victim. Like Dangerfield-level hilarious.

Shit, I mean...I'd love to be able to kill someone and still be on the company dole while hiding out at some Marriott hotel! Wouldn't you?

 

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[unregistered]

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Lying bastard, all I'm trying to do is squelch the hysteria fueled by your side's falsehoods.

You ain't squelching jackshit, Methuselah.

You are squawking a truckload of night soil, though.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

So, they're not allowing you to exist as you want to?

Damn!

Man, if it were me, I think I'd emigrate, but I found this to be a wonderful place in which to carve out my own little blue heaven.

 

[nowisthetime]

Well if you think about it, many of these posters and others who share their viewpoints outside the internet, do not see people of color as humans or even worthy of living.

That is why they were so EAGER to jump on the 'He's a no good thug' racist bandwagon. You see how they flocked to these types of threads like flies on shit only to attack the victim? Any time a person of color is a victim of a crime, the first question asks 'what did he do to deserve it?' It is like a rape victim being asked 'was she dressing provocatively?' The same disgraceful posters did it for Trayvon, and now they are doing it to Michael Brown. It is disgusting and not surprising.

This belief may be far-fetched but it is the same concept of many who enjoy black on white wife cuckolding porn. They don't see the black man as a human, but as a savage fuck machine and beast laying it on a pure, virginal white angel.

But if you look at history, savagery transcends race and culture, but the black man is still stereotyped in such a way.

Go and ahead and throw the insults if you don't agree. I'm pretty used to it on the GB. Nothing but words, I couldn't care less of what some think of my opinion.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Well if you think about it, many of these posters and others who share their viewpoints outside the internet, do not see people of color as humans or even worthy of living.

That is why they were so EAGER to jump on the 'He's a no good thug' racist bandwagon. You see how they flocked to these types of threads like flies on shit only to attack the victim? Any time a person of color is a victim of a crime, the first question asks 'what did he do to deserve it?' It is like a rape victim being asked 'was she dressing provocatively?' The same disgraceful posters did it for Trayvon, and now they are doing it to Michael Brown. It is disgusting and not surprising.

This belief may be far-fetched but it is the same concept of many who enjoy black on white wife cuckolding porn. They don't see the black man as a human, but as a savage fuck machine and beast laying it on a pure, virginal white angel.

But if you look at history, savagery transcends race and culture, but the black man is still stereotyped in such a way.

Go and ahead and throw the insults if you don't agree. I'm pretty used to it on the GB. Nothing but words, I couldn't care less of what some think of my opinion.

The schmuck n' stain parade here hates that this troll list nails their characters dead center.

They reeeeeeeally hate it.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Well if you think about it, many of these posters and others who share their viewpoints outside the internet, do not see people of color as humans or even worthy of living.

That is why they were so EAGER to jump on the 'He's a no good thug' racist bandwagon. You see how they flocked to these types of threads like flies on shit only to attack the victim? Any time a person of color is a victim of a crime, the first question asks 'what did he do to deserve it?' It is like a rape victim being asked 'was she dressing provocatively?' The same disgraceful posters did it for Trayvon, and now they are doing it to Michael Brown. It is disgusting and not surprising.

This belief may be far-fetched but it is the same concept of many who enjoy black on white wife cuckolding porn. They don't see the black man as a human, but as a savage fuck machine and beast laying it on a pure, virginal white angel.

But if you look at history, savagery transcends race and culture, but the black man is still stereotyped in such a way.

Go and ahead and throw the insults if you don't agree. I'm pretty used to it on the GB. Nothing but words, I couldn't care less of what some think of my opinion.

I think you should name some names just to keep things interesting

 

[Dream59]

Oh lookee, now the bar's been moved to UNNECESSARILY killed minorities. Tres Zipmanesque goalpost movin' there, officer!

Your devotion to the law-enforcement-can-do-no-wrong meme is charming. I wonder how many wife beaters and drunk drivers you covered for when they flashed a badge at you? Round up to the nearest ten.

Of course it has to be unnecessarily killed to have any bearing. If it was necessary how do you argue against it.

My devotion to LE is case by case and requires evidence of wrong doing, unlike you that will bury them with nothing but your biased outlook. There are some that need to go to jail for ever, if not be executed. But I do like to see an investigation as well as a trial before I call for their heads. To round up would be zero. It is not worth someone's life to let a drunk keep driving no matter his occupation. And I do not agree with abusing anyone so that too would be zero.

 

[Dream59]

There are no figures because in every case you're going to say they were justified. The cop may or may not be guilty, the riot isn't about this case though. This case is the flashpoint. The problem is the community does not feel protected by their police and this is a common theme for blacks around the country. It's not just when you kill us. When we get pulled over for no reason, when we get stopped and frisked because being black warrants it all of that adds up.

No I will not say they are all justified. there are some where there is no justification. But the figures are very low. Most cops as in most sane people do not say I think I will kill someone today. But there are bad cops just as there are bad everything. If the community does not feel protected then there are other ways to go about fixing the problem. The community is majorly black. If they would vote then they would have more blacks in office and in positions to make sure they are protected. But this thread is about this particular incident and the rush to judgment is no more fair than judging someone is driving a stolen car simply because they are black and it is a BMW.

 

[Dream59]

Well if you think about it, many of these posters and others who share their viewpoints outside the internet, do not see people of color as humans or even worthy of living.

That is why they were so EAGER to jump on the 'He's a no good thug' racist bandwagon. You see how they flocked to these types of threads like flies on shit only to attack the victim? Any time a person of color is a victim of a crime, the first question asks 'what did he do to deserve it?' It is like a rape victim being asked 'was she dressing provocatively?' The same disgraceful posters did it for Trayvon, and now they are doing it to Michael Brown. It is disgusting and not surprising.

This belief may be far-fetched but it is the same concept of many who enjoy black on white wife cuckolding porn. They don't see the black man as a human, but as a savage fuck machine and beast laying it on a pure, virginal white angel.

But if you look at history, savagery transcends race and culture, but the black man is still stereotyped in such a way.

Go and ahead and throw the insults if you don't agree. I'm pretty used to it on the GB. Nothing but words, I couldn't care less of what some think of my opinion.

Just as you are EAGER to always take the black persons side before the first newscast is finished. As for blaming the victim, in this case it has yet to be decided just who the victim is but you have not stopped your rush to judgment over who the guilty party is. Trayvon Martin was not a victim unless you include being a victim of your own actions. Michael Brown has not as yet been shown to be a victim as the investigation has not finished. You throw as many stones as anyone else. You are also just as racist as the people you castigate as you are always on the other side of the argument before any evidence is known.

 

[Dream59]

I just thought that it's hilarious you think could Wilson be a victim. Like Dangerfield-level hilarious.

Shit, I mean...I'd love to be able to kill someone and still be on the company dole while hiding out at some Marriott hotel! Wouldn't you?

So you show your own bias by not thinking a cop can be a victim. Ok as long as we know where you stand.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Of course it has to be unnecessarily killed to have any bearing. If it was necessary how do you argue against it.

My devotion to LE is case by case and requires evidence of wrong doing, unlike you that will bury them with nothing but your biased outlook. There are some that need to go to jail for ever, if not be executed. But I do like to see an investigation as well as a trial before I call for their heads. To round up would be zero. It is not worth someone's life to let a drunk keep driving no matter his occupation. And I do not agree with abusing anyone so that too would be zero.

It's good to know you haven't quite totally embraced your inner-jackbooted-thug! There's still an ember of fairness and justice flickerin' beneath your scaly hide. You haven't gone totally to the dark side.
:nods:

 

[Dream59]

It's good to know you haven't quite totally embraced your inner-jackbooted-thug! There's still an ember of fairness and justice flickerin' beneath your scaly hide. You haven't gone totally to the dark side.
:nods:

Not quite. I use a moisturizer on the scales, but damn it is a lot of work LOL.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So you show your own bias by not thinking a cop can be a victim. Ok as long as we know where you stand.

No bias here, guy. Never said that a cop couldn't be a victim.

I said that it's hilarious that you think Wilson could be. He is in no way, shape or form a victim. Maybe in Bizarro World, baby. Not here.

 

[nowisthetime]

Oh lookee, now the bar's been moved to UNNECESSARILY killed minorities. Tres Zipmanesque goalpost movin' there, officer!

Your devotion to the law-enforcement-can-do-no-wrong meme is charming. I wonder how many wife beaters and drunk drivers you covered for when they flashed a badge at you? Round up to the nearest ten.

It is so hard for people to fathom that there are crooked or inept cops who cause harm to innocent people? After all was it not a cop that shot a 92 year old black woman in Atlanta to death and covered it up claiming she shot at them first (later found to be untrue)? Was it not cops who shot Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, and Michael Chaney, three civil rights activists in cold blood during the summer of '64? Was it not cops who beat a black man in Detroit, Malice Green to death? Was it not cops who shot Sean Bell before his wedding day?

I think you should name some names just to keep things interesting

They know who they are...racism, misogyny and homophobia are all inter-connected. Those that are racists also tend to view women in low regard and hold homophobic beliefs. For example, there is a poster on here that calls anyone who is not a straight white male, fags, niggers, and cunts for disagreeing with his opinions. That's why they foam at the mouth and become defensive when called out on their behavior. That's one of the reasons they can't stand my ass and have me on ignore.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Not quite. I use a moisturizer on the scales, but damn it is a lot of work LOL.

Contact JenInFlorida, she might be able to help, she has years of experience exfoilating her scales and cellulite.
:nods:

 

[Paendragon]

From HuffPo:

Olivia Cole

The 10 Kinds of Trolls You Will Encounter When Talking About Mike Brown

Posted: 08/19/2014 5:53 pm EDT Updated: 08/19/2014 11:59 pm EDT

If you're paying attention to the events unfolding in Ferguson -- and by God, you better be -- then you probably already know there is a group of people in this country of ours who are determined to change the focus of the conversation about the killing of Mike Brown and the subsequent protests, attempting to shift the lens away from the Constitutional rights of U.S. citizens and the killing of a black teenager. If you're reading this, you probably already know the folks I'm talking about. But here they are. #Staywoke.

The Full-Blown Racist Troll
Block on sight. Some of them are friends of your Facebook friends -- block them. Some of them are your Facebook friends. Many of them are accounts like the one I have screenshotted below: anonymous and relying on blatantly racist language, such as blackface imagery, monkey references, use of the N-word, etc. These have exploded over the last week. We're talking hundreds. I've been using Twitter avidly for years and I can't recall ever seeing quite this much racist bile taking over an event-related hashtag (#Ferguson) as I have this week. Block them and report them for spam immediately.

The "Wait for Evidence" Troll
This troll may or may not be anonymous and pretends to be focused on respecting and upholding the law. "We don't know what happened yet," they say, "wait for evidence before you lambast an officer of the law." They pretend that things like racism, police brutality, police corruption, etc. don't exist and insist that if concrete evidence is released, they will be swayed to feel "sympathy" for Mike Brown. But they won't. When evidence arises, they find objection to its relevance or veracity. They then transform into The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll, to follow.

The "Mike Brown Shouldn't Have [insert human action here]" Troll
This troll (and the others as well) will go great lengths to justify the taking of black life. "He shouldn't have run," "he shouldn't have been sagging," "he shouldn't have been walking down the middle of the street," "he shouldn't have stolen something." These trolls come in all races and will insist that when a police officer (or a homeowner, or a security guard) assaults a person of color, that person must have done something to deserve it. The fact that Mike Brown was shot at least 6 times doesn't register as overkill, even when two of those shots were in the head. They will also extend effort to paint Ferguson as a ghetto, where this kind of thing happens all the time. Nope. Ferguson, Missouri had zero murders.

The "Police Are the Good Guys" Troll
These folks have a blissfully naïve version of police in their heads, the one fed to them since they were children that says police are the good guys and that no matter what they do, they must have had a reason. These people have no concept -- or pretend to have no concept -- of the depth of white supremacy and the way it is ingrained in every facet of our culture... even our police. Because they believe the police are always right -- and usually because they also believe that groups of black people are inherently violent -- they have no qualms about police dressed in military gear, sitting on tanks and tear-gassing American citizens. 'Murica. You may also hear these trolls say, "What about due process?" Well... we would proceed with due process. If they would actually arrest Darren Wilson. Which they haven't. So...

The "Violence Just Begets More Violence" Troll
These people are the riot-shamers. They roll out the word "looters!" at every chance and are not interested in the fact that only a small number of people at the protests have actively looted, or that Ferguson protestors actually locked arms to prevent said looting. These trolls hide behind anonymous accounts, they masquerade as sane coworkers, and they work for CNN and other major media outlets. They focus on the "unrest" in Ferguson and talk about it out of context in an attempt to 1) divert attention away from the killing of an unarmed black teenager and/or 2) disguise their lack of critical thought. As Mia McKenzie of Black Girl Dangerous said so well in this post:



The Concern Troll
These are among the more passive aggressive trolls you will encounter. They not only target victims like Mike Brown with statements like "I wish he hadn't stolen those cigars: he might be alive," but target the community as well, saying things like "Should they really be out there protesting with little kids? I worry about that kind of parenting."

Let me make one thing clear in case you weren't sure: these people aren't worried about the children of Ferguson. They're not actually "concerned" at all," despite their title. These people employ words like "worry" and "I wish" and "concern" to communicate their disapproval of black people doing anything besides playing the Martin Baker role. If they were actually concerned, they would see the images of police with hidden badge numbers, tear-gassing eight-year old girls, and be concerned about the escalation of violence police in Ferguson are responsible for.

The "But What About Black on Black Crime!" Troll
Yes, 85 percent of violent crime against black people is perpetuated by other black people. But guess what? The exact same is true for violent crime committed against white people: the vast majority of those crimes are committed by other white people. People who use the term "black on black crime" either 1) work for Fox News, 2) are seeking to portray black people as violent and out of control, and/or 3) seek to portray black people as only caring about black lives when there is a way to blame white people. Let's run that back: 1) If they work for Fox News...you already know. 2) If we're going to make sweeping statements about people being violent and out of control, perhaps we should focus on young white males. 3) Anyone who would fit with #3 is not interested in facts, otherwise they would be aware of the vast number of organizations and movements to end gun violence in black neighborhoods... spearheaded by black people. The real motivation behind this troll (and all of them really) is to distract from the matter at hand, and that's that an unarmed black teen is dead.

The "Don't Make This A Racial Issue!" Troll
These are the pearl-clutchers. "This could have happened to anyone! Let's not make this a racial issue and instead focus on getting this cop off the street!" Yes, we should focus on getting this cop off the street, but we must also focus on the conditions that made this killing possible, and that is one of racism, white supremacy, and police violence that has been being built and rebuilt since the birth of this country. No, this wouldn't have just happened to anyone. A black male is killed by police every 28 hours in America. This is a racial issue.

These trolls will also accuse you of being racist for talking about racism and start quoting to you all the times black people perpetuated "reverse racism" against white people. Suggested action? Block and keep it moving.

The Misinformation Bots
These are particularly dangerous and I have seen a lot of them in the past week. I won't speculate on where they come from -- although I have a fairly good idea -- but their sole purpose is to spread misinformation about Mike Brown and Darren Wilson, targeting people tweeting under the #Ferguson and #MikeBrown hashtags and sending them to false articles on homemade websites about alternate eyewitnesses that saw Brown attack Wilson, etc. Don't engage with these people: they likely get paid for it. Report them as spam and, you guessed it: keep it moving.

The "I Wish We Could All Just Get Along" Troll
These trolls might mean well. They might. But that doesn't mean they're not trolls. You post/tweet an article and they tweet back, "This is all really bad, but I wish this wasn't happening. Can't we all just get along?" They're trolling you. We all wish we could get along. But right now a boy is dead and is receiving no justice by the system that supposedly exists to protect him. Injecting Pollyanna-isms aren't helping anyone. If you really want to help and the frontlines aren't for you, just donate to the Michael Brown Memorial Fund. And stay out of the way.

This isn't an exhaustive list. When a black person is killed in America, trolls come out of the woodwork in an attempt to justify or distract from the taking of that life. After finishing this post, I'm not even sure "troll" is the right word, but I'm not sure if I have a better one either. Weights, perhaps. Cinder blocks shackled to the rising tide of Americans who want better, believe in better; who see the killing of another black kid in America and say "enough." These people are not merely trolls. "Troll" implies something harmless, a faceless entity in the underbelly of the Internet. These people are not harmless. They are part of the problem. Unfortunately I don't have a solution for the problem they pose: they are not interested in self-education. They are not interested in empathy. They are not interested in challenging the worldview that has tucked them in at night and told them the police are here for our protection and that black people deserve what they get. They are interested only in standing very still, while the rest of us move forward. All I can say is this: move on without them. Block, report, and move on without them. Even when they're friends.

Some of these are a load of crap. I see nothing wrong with "waiting for evidence" on an issue, and as a rule I do believe the police are the good guys. Unfortunately, several of the others are spot on.