Your "belief" is not more important than my reality.

[girlsmiley]

This thread still going then?

 

[girlsmiley]

And not all sex results in pregnancy. In fact, the majority of unprotected sex does not lead to conception.

But you didn't answer the question.

Your issue is that you shouldn't have to pay for someone else who takes medication in order to have recreational sex without risk of pregnancy.

Suppose I have an issue with people who drink alcohol. Should I have to pay for alcohol-related medical treatment?

Suppose I have a moral issue with overeaters. Should I be allowed to defund treatment medicines for Type II diabetes and other obesity-related illnesses?

Does we all get to opt out of paying for lifestyles we don't agree with?

The answer is no. So, deal. And MYOB.

Watch. He still won't get it.

 

[smallgirl]

If I came across like that, it was unintended.

I simply want women to accept the financial responsibility for their own biological systems and not hide behind the fact that "You men don't get pregnant so you have it easy. It's only fair that you pay."

And it's not fair. It's not that easy being a guy y'know. We need to.....

... erm....

.... well....

.... nyahh...

... hmmm....

....Kill spiders. Yep, big ones... and that can be pretty costly.


Seriously though - can't you see the logic? It's not about to be a slut or not - it's about taking responsibility and paying your own way.





Yes.






I would prefer that people would start having babies after they finish school and maybe even have a place of their own. However, you are essentially right - I would never deny a mom health care.

And the "cute baby?" Well, I don't know your age, but I can tell from my own experience that once you get one of those you can forget about sleep, sex and money because you won't have either for a long time. And they grow into scary creatures called "teenagers" who take off with your car if you forget to hide the keys, throw up in the pool and are able to empty a Louis Vuitton store in minutes....

Luckily my psychologist is covered








Can we please stick with Ann Coulter instead? At least she's hot....

http://img002.lazygirls.info/people/ann_coulter/ann_coulter_happiness_is_a_warm_gun_z198BBS.sized.jpg





I paid for the seat belts in my car... the airbags weren't free either. But I did it because I believe in safe driving. Should my health insurance cover that?

And yes - it is the same situation.





You might wanna have a chat with an overweight person some day Rob. Trust me - they know what discrimination and shaming is all about.

I really don't get the analogy, but ok. We all think differently.

I'm not unhealthy, I do not smoke, I do not take high blood pressure meds, or cholesterol meds, nor am I diabetic, but the people who are make my premiums go up.

Should I not want to pay for their treatment since they made my costs increase?

I see it as all the same thing...I am not religious either and I would never advise someone to marry without tasting the milk first...lol, but I still think birth control should be covered.

I also think Viagra should be...but that's another argument.

 

[smallgirl]

And not all sex results in pregnancy. In fact, the majority of unprotected sex does not lead to conception.

But you didn't answer the question.

Your issue is that you shouldn't have to pay for someone else who takes medication in order to have recreational sex without risk of pregnancy.

Suppose I have an issue with people who drink alcohol. Should I have to pay for alcohol-related medical treatment?

Suppose I have a moral issue with overeaters. Should I be allowed to defund treatment medicines for Type II diabetes and other obesity-related illnesses?

Does we all get to opt out of paying for lifestyles we don't agree with?

The answer is no. So, deal. And MYOB.

very well said. I don't agree with birth control being singled out when there are so many other health concerns that need to be addressed in this country.

 

[about_average]

Can we please stick with Ann Coulter instead? At least she's hot....

Uggg...one of the ugliest women I know.

Damn, no puke smilie

 

[StrangeLife]

Yeah, I see that as splitting hairs.

Thats it! I'm NOT paying for your stylist too!

Birth control should be covered, it is a medicine, pure and simple.

Only if you call pregnancy a "disease."

I don't get your analogy for the dog...mine was very easily housebroken. I really don't see that correlation.

Maybe it was a little far out... sorry. I like dogs.

Pregnancy is preventable, the same as all those other pesky health problems.

Yes, but if you like having sex you'll need to be proactive in order to avoid it. And that falls under the clause of "personal responsibility".

And not all sex results in pregnancy. In fact, the majority of unprotected sex does not lead to conception.

True that.

But you didn't answer the question.

Your issue is that you shouldn't have to pay for someone else who takes medication in order to have recreational sex without risk of pregnancy.

Exactly. Because birth control is no more "medication" than the helmet I wear when riding my Harley. And that ain't covered either.

Suppose I have an issue with people who drink alcohol. Should I have to pay for alcohol-related medical treatment?

Yes. Because it's about a medical treatment.

Suppose I have a moral issue with overeaters. Should I be allowed to defund treatment medicines for Type II diabetes and other obesity-related illnesses?

Yes, because it's a medical treatment.

Does we all get to opt out of paying for lifestyles we don't agree with?

Having recreational sex is not a "lifestyle" - it's an "activity." Like flying a kite or breeding mink. And I don't want to feed somebody else's mink... or beaver....

The answer is no. So, deal. And MYOB.

To some people poking your nose into somebody else's business is known as "foreplay"...

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)

Only if you call pregnancy a "disease."

What the fuck?

Do you call a broken arm a "disease"?

 

[smallgirl]

Thats it! I'm NOT paying for your stylist too!






Only if you call pregnancy a "disease."






Maybe it was a little far out... sorry. I like dogs.






Yes, but if you like having sex you'll need to be proactive in order to avoid it. And that falls under the clause of "personal responsibility".






True that.





Exactly. Because birth control is no more "medication" than the helmet I wear when riding my Harley. And that ain't covered either.






Yes. Because it's about a medical treatment.






Yes, because it's a medical treatment.





Having recreational sex is not a "lifestyle" - it's an "activity." Like flying a kite or breeding mink. And I don't want to feed somebody else's mink... or beaver....




To some people poking your nose into somebody else's business is known as "foreplay"...

Ok, I see personal responsibility as staying out the drive thru at McDonalds too, to avoid all those pesky health issues.

I don't classify certain things as diseases...I look at BC as a preventive medicine just like Lipitor.

The simple truth is everyone's costs go up because of something SOMEBODY else does...it doesn't matter if it's over eating, too much salt, or too much fried foods....or the condom failing and an unwanted pregnancy occurs.

We all pay for everyone else's health problems. Period.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Sorry, but according to the Extreme Right Wing, you will no longer be given medicine to prevent -
menstrual-related migraine headaches
control endometriosis ( a condition in which uterine tissue grows outside the uterus)
reduce bleeding due to uterine fibroid tumors

-because Extreme Right Wingers are anxious about the possibility that they will be paying for you to enjoy a sex life.

These Conservatives are so Compassionate! (When it entails giving a man a penis pump or limp dick medicine.)

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Sorry, but according to the Extreme Right Wing, you will no longer be given medicine to prevent -
menstrual-related migraine headaches
control endometriosis ( a condition in which uterine tissue grows outside the uterus)
reduce bleeding due to uterine fibroid tumors

-because Extreme Right Wingers are anxious about the possibility that they will be paying for you to enjoy a sex life.

These Conservatives are so Compassionate! (When it entails giving a man a penis pump or limp dick medicine.)

Penis > Vagina

Because penises are important and simple to figure out and operate and vaginas are magical mystical complicated icky things.

 

[StrangeLife]

In this case pay for the sex or pay for the kid.

Or change your name and move out of state

This thread still going then? .

"Stamina" is my middle name. Strange Stamina Life....

Watch. He still won't get it. .

I don't wear a watch anyway. I'm so used to using my phone....

I also think Viagra should be...but that's another argument.

I also disagree with that.

ERD can be caused by illness, but if it isn't then it shouldn't be my problem that some guy I don't know has problems rising to the occasion. I'm not giving him a penis pump, cock ring, Venus 2000 or a picture of Kate Beckinsale in a cat suit either. His penis - his problem.

 

[girlsmiley]

StrangeLife is a great example of why I quit trying to figure men out.

Too much effort involved, and it's just not worth the time and energy.

 

[about_average]

StrangeLife is a great example of why I quit trying to figure men out.

Too much effort involved, and it's just not worth the time and energy.

Now now, some of us are completely transparent.



Wait, that didn't come out right....

 

[Wings]

You guys have to know every time you post something well thought out and insightful to StrangeLife he just jerks it harder.

It's akin to explaining why fundamental Christians are bad to JulyBaby.

 

[JohnnySavage]

You guys have to know every time you post something well thought out and insightful to StrangeLife he just jerks it harder.

It's akin to explaining why fundamental Christians are bad to JulyBaby.

I think he's just happy someone is finally talking to him.

 

[Lorilei]

Yeah, he's just doubling down on the obnoxious at this point, just to get some attention.

 

[Wings]

I think he's just happy someone is finally talking to him.

...while he jerks it. I get it.

 

[girlsmiley]

Now now, some of us are completely transparent.

Wait, that didn't come out right....

Lol. I figure it's better for me and it's better for men.

Why men do what they do and think what they think shall remain a mystery.

 

[smallgirl]

I just hope Hobby Lobby loses their case...if they win, it is a huge step back for women.

 

[StrangeLife]

Uggg...one of the ugliest women I know.

Damn, no puke smilie

It's hard to account for taste, but I certainly wouldn't be sad to pay for her birth control.

And she used to screw Bill Maher so apparently she can be fairly un-batshit and un-extreme when she's not out in the spotlight....

Ok, I see personal responsibility as staying out the drive thru at McDonalds too, to avoid all those pesky health issues.

I don't classify certain things as diseases...I look at BC as a preventive medicine just like Lipitor.

The simple truth is everyone's costs go up because of something SOMEBODY else does...it doesn't matter if it's over eating, too much salt, or too much fried foods....or the condom failing and an unwanted pregnancy occurs.

We all pay for everyone else's health problems. Period.

Now you're being practical (how dare you ) and I can't really disagree with your conclusion.

But to me it's more than an economic issue. It's a matter of principles. I only pay for sex if I participate.

I might be in the minority - if the GB is any indication I definitely are - but I still believe ya'll are misguided. It's not a gender issue - it's not about religion - it's not about slut-shaming - it's about personal responsibility and accountability.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Why men do what they do and think what they think shall remain a mystery.

See, if you were still keeping it strictly dickly instead of just clam digging, I'm the type that'd make it simple, easy and logical for you to figure out.

Sex. Food. Music. Movies.

A bit o' gin or shochu. That's it, basically.

 

[smallgirl]

It's hard to account for taste, but I certainly wouldn't be sad to pay for her birth control.

And she used to screw Bill Maher so apparently she can be fairly un-batshit and un-extreme when she's not out in the spotlight....






Now you're being practical (how dare you ) and I can't really disagree with your conclusion.

But to me it's more than an economic issue. It's a matter of principles. I only pay for sex if I participate.

I might be in the minority - if the GB is any indication I definitely are - but I still believe ya'll are misguided. It's not a gender issue - it's not about religion - it's not about slut-shaming - it's about personal responsibility and accountability.

True, as is high blood pressure, high cholesterol and other such things.

Personal responsibility can prevent those things, just as it can having a baby!

 

[StrangeLife]

StrangeLife is a great example of why I quit trying to figure men out.

Too much effort involved, and it's just not worth the time and energy.

http://rlv.zcache.com/mustache_man_huh-r4314642ee77d400396f42f1d69fa9ff4_804gs_324.jpg

Men are not the complicated gender Smiley. Darwin was wrong y'know - we didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from dogs. That should tell you something

You guys have to know every time you post something well thought out and insightful to StrangeLife he just jerks it harder.

It's akin to explaining why fundamental Christians are bad to JulyBaby.

Alas I'm not getting a whole lot of jerking done at the moment. I must have been cured from my "sky-high insurance premium fetish" at some point. Maybe it was the shock...

 

[about_average]

I just hope Hobby Lobby loses their case...if they win, it is a huge step back for women.

I'd argue it would be a huge step back for everyone. Most immediately felt by women, but in the long term, everyone.

 

[smallgirl]

I'd argue it would be a huge step back for everyone. Most immediately felt by women, but in the long term, everyone.

That is true, very true.