Your "belief" is not more important than my reality.

[Wings]

Is Ursula a male or a female? Either way I'm in love.

 

[Lorilei]

Is Ursula a male or a female? Either way I'm in love.

Right?!?!

 

[StrangeLife]

...and ignore. Bye!

Not a good idea Smiley. Because then you won't see all the juicy stuff I say about you behind your back. Just sayin...

Why he thinks it is funny? I think we have to call on Stormy Weathers and take 7 minutes and 44 seconds of your life to really answer that question.

C'mon - I thought friggin Titanic was funny, and it was 210 minutes of drudgery concluding with the death of Leo and 1300 other people.

And yes - the absurdity of me paying somebody else to have sex is funny too. I'm not getting a threesome.... not getting to watch.... hell, I wont even know whose intercourse I'm paying for. And to top it off - this time I don't get to watch Leo die either....

I realize we have all moved on...

Actually I haven't... and your excellent post shed a light on several issues I've been pondering. Thanks for that.... oh, and enjoy your date with Wings

On the rights of individuals to self-destruct:

Arguing that individuals should be left to their own devices is a bit like relying on drivers to resolve traffic jams. Actors often undermine their own interests because their perspective is too limited to optimize the system that affects them.

"Too limited perspective" according to whom?

You see, that's the problem with your analogy in a nutshell. We are not dealing with traffic regulation - we are dealing with a woman's right to decide over her own body. Should God decide? Should the government/insurance decide? Or should she decide? Those are the options.

If we leave the decision up to her, we also have to accept that she might choose badly. Because if we don't, we're not really leaving the decision up to her. Instead we're saying: "You can do whatever you want with your body, unless you happen do something we don't want you to do."

And that's not freedom.... that's being on a leash.

 

[Sinny]

I would also like to state for the record that Ursula is as smart and cool as Phelia, who broke it down about seven or eight pages ago.

And the opposite is true for strangelife, but I saw that one coming weeks ago. He gets some kind of douchecanoe award for fuckwadery. What. The. Fuck.

Ffs, we have to work harder to keep the Ursulas around. Fan club, stat.

 

[BotanyBoy]

A rape victim is, like the names says, a victim of a serious crime. Rape is not sex - rape is violence and there is no such thing as making the victim responsible for it (though the defence lawyer for the rapist will probably try... and hopefully fail).

No shit...that has nothing to do with you saying that BC is only for being a slut nor the fact that your claim is a total crock of shit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I do love giving things the finger, though. I'm flipping off the computer pretty much the entire time I'm reading StrangeLife's posts.

Meeh too...

http://www.lobshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/goose.jpg
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[BoyNextDoor]

the absurdity of me paying somebody else to have sex is funny too. I'm not getting a threesome.... not getting to watch.... hell, I wont even know whose intercourse I'm paying for. And to top it off - this time I don't get to watch Leo die either....

You are not paying someone to have sex.

 

[StrangeLife]

I would also like to state for the record that Ursula is as smart and cool as Phelia, who broke it down about seven or eight pages ago.

And the opposite is true for strangelife, but I saw that one coming weeks ago. He gets some kind of douchecanoe award for fuckwadery. What. The. Fuck.

Thanks Sinny. You probably don't mean it as an honorary distinction, but I was never much of a follower. So getting a prize for standing tall in a hurricane of preconceived notions definitely ain't the worst badge you can slap on my forehead. I'll wear it with pride.

Behold Sir StrangeLife - Supreme Knight of The Order of The Douchecanoe. Holder of the prestigious Fuckwadery Award

Gotta get that on a T-shirt....

No shit...that has nothing to do with you saying that BC is only for being a slut nor the fact that your claim is a total crock of shit.

Whoa Botany! That was taken out of a context where both Lori and Phelia apparently had me mixed up with Julybaby04 and her religious fervor. I was therefore falsely accused of "slut shaming" and of "wanting to deny Plan B to rape vicitims". I have never expressed either tendency, so I felt the need to defend myself and clarify my position, despite drifting slightly off topic.

 

[Garnate]

I'm so confused as to why everyone hates StrangeLife in this thread.

I really shouldn't just skim over everything. I have a feeling I'm missing a lot here. Seriously, I glanced at every 4th word posted here. And all I got from every 4th word was that people strongly disagree with him and that julybaby is a fucking nutjob on the wrong fucking internet board.

 

[StrangeLife]

You are not paying someone to have sex.

Since the government has yet to instate a Sex-Tax (*gulp*), the basic cost involved in a couple having sex is currently the price of the birth control. By making me pay for their birth control I am thus essentially being forced to finance the sex.

And I'm still not liking it much...

 

[StrangeLife]

I'm so confused as to why everyone hates StrangeLife in this thread.

I really shouldn't just skim over everything. I have a feeling I'm missing a lot here. Seriously, I glanced at every 4th word posted here. And all I got from every 4th word was that people strongly disagree with him and that julybaby is a fucking nutjob on the wrong fucking internet board.

You just proved that I could have settled for only reading 25% of the thread and still hit the hammer on the nail!

Bummer... but I'll try that next time, if I survive.

 

[Phelia]

Is the man who spells it "fellopian" still trying to pretend he has a clue as to what the fuck he's talking about?

Has he answered how exactly he proposes to verify that a woman has indeed been raped before he generously foots the bill for her Plan B (which he denies is a prophylactic, seems to refuse to pay for, yet advocates should magically become "free")?

I don't group Plan B under "birth control" since it's no prophylactic. It's a treatment and I'm all for making it free. At the very least it needs to be easily obtainable.

UM. WUT?

I'm also curious about how we're supposed to be able to tell the difference between a woman who needs birth control for medical reasons and a woman pretending she gets severe menstrual cramps just to have some hot seXXX on poor ol' StrangeLife's dime? Maybe we can have our doctors hold a gun to their heads. Second amendment, yeah!!

Oh, instead of answering those questions, he's decided to write an insane piece of fan-fiction instead? Super.

Making the state foot the bill for your birth control is essentially equal to giving up control of your own fertility to a governmental system.

No, it really isn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination. THE STATE IS NOT FOOTING THE BILL. IT'S PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES. YOU ARE A LIAR, OR YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS.

How long do you think it'll be before certain demographics will get mandated birth control by a court? Like an implant you're not allowed to remove for instance.

Oh my god. You are either criminally stupid or completely insane.

I said I was done, but I can't help it. This dude is fucked up.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm so confused as to why everyone hates StrangeLife in this thread.

I really shouldn't just skim over everything. I have a feeling I'm missing a lot here. Seriously, I glanced at every 4th word posted here. And all I got from every 4th word was that people strongly disagree with him and that julybaby is a fucking nutjob on the wrong fucking internet board.

I'm having quite a bit of fun having him explain the intellectual disconnect between

• "lack of sex for a woman is not bad because sex for a woman is recreational and I don't want to pay for her orgasms dammit"
• "lack of sex for a man is a disease dammit and should be paid for by insurance"

 

[Phelia]

From your source:
(1) the framers of the Constitution, recognizing free exercise of religion as an unalienable right, secured its protection in the First Amendment to the Constitution;

They will be seeing if it violates the First Amendment.

I don't have a platform. I offered my opinion. I have listened to yours.

This is not my opinion. You are wrong. That's not "my source." That's the actual text of the law. The Supreme Court is deciding whether the language in the law that protects the religious beliefs of people extends to corporations and whether upholding the ACA is justified by a "compelling government interest."

I know I sound harsh, but you cannot keep inventing the facts of this case, and if you're going to use those inventions to disagree with me, I'm going to call you out on it.

I don't know where you've been hiding, but I truly hope you stick around.

Is Ursula a male or a female? Either way I'm in love.

I would also like to state for the record that Ursula is as smart and cool as Phelia, who broke it down about seven or eight pages ago.

And the opposite is true for strangelife, but I saw that one coming weeks ago. He gets some kind of douchecanoe award for fuckwadery. What. The. Fuck.

Ffs, we have to work harder to keep the Ursulas around. Fan club, stat.

Yes! Ursula, I really appreciate your articulate, civil, well thought-out contributions. Please stick around the board! You are cool.

I'm so confused as to why everyone hates StrangeLife in this thread.

I really shouldn't just skim over everything. I have a feeling I'm missing a lot here. Seriously, I glanced at every 4th word posted here. And all I got from every 4th word was that people strongly disagree with him and that julybaby is a fucking nutjob on the wrong fucking internet board.

What he's saying is offensively wrong. If you read what he says, I don't know what there is to agree with.

 

[StrangeLife]

Is the man who spells it "fellopian" still trying to pretend he has a clue as to what the fuck he's talking about?

Just becuse I can't speel sometimes doesn't automagically infer that I'm sdupid. I might be - sure - but that particular trait is not a reliable indicator.

Has he answered how exactly he proposes to verify that a woman has indeed been raped before he generously foots the bill for her Plan B (which he denies is a prophylactic, seems to refuse to pay for, yet advocates should magically become "free")?

The woman in question showing up at the ER and requesting a rape-kit should always suffice. Plan B and it's derivatives are very low impact so better safe than sorry.

I'm also curious about how we're supposed to be able to tell the difference between a woman who needs birth control for medical reasons and a woman pretending she gets severe menstrual cramps just to have some hot seXXX on poor ol' StrangeLife's dime? Maybe we can have our doctors hold a gun to their heads. Second amendment, yeah!!

That is what we have all those med. school graduates for. Do you think they get paid $300.000 a year just for playing golf and feeling up rich elderly widows? Alleviating menstrual cramps is a medical use of course... as are skin problems, hormonal imbalances and so on...

Oh, instead of answering those questions, he's decided to write an insane piece of fan-fiction instead? Super.

I did? Oh...

No, it really isn't. Not by any stretch of the imagination. THE STATE IS NOT FOOTING THE BILL. IT'S PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES. YOU ARE A LIAR, OR YOU ARE OBLIVIOUS.

It doesn't matter Phelia. Think about it: If the state does it, I get to pay for it through my taxes. If my insurance company does it, I get to pay through my premium. In either case, I get to pay. I don't really care who assumes the role of payment processor.

Oh my god. You are either criminally stupid or completely insane.

Erhm... is there a door#3 I can pick?

I said I was done, but I can't help it. This dude is fucked up.

If I fucked, at least you can rest assured that I paid for my own birth control

 

[Garnate]

Oh THAT IS IT! SINCE I CAN'T TURN THIS CAR AROUND I'M *THIS* CLOSE TO POSTING BARE TITS UNTIL EVERYONE CALMS DOWN OR GETS GROSSED OUT AND CRIES THEMSELVES TO SLEEP!

I'm so serious right now.

 

[Garnate]

Just becuse I can't speel sometimes doesn't automagically infer

Every 4th word is why this part cracked me the fuck up. Not gonna lie. Now I'm convinced that this is how every political and religious thread should be read. Some people will be huffing and puffing, trying to make a point, and the other half will be giggling just like I did.

You can't piss people off if you're the only one reading everything you post.

 

[Phelia]

The woman in question showing up at the ER and requesting a rape-kit should always suffice. Plan B and it's derivatives are very low impact so better safe than sorry.

Oh, super. Let's incentivize visits to the ER for false rape reports and exams. That will bring costs down for EVERYONE!

That is what we have all those med. school graduates for. Do you think they get paid $300.000 a year just for playing golf and feeling up rich elderly widows? Alleviating menstrual cramps is a medical use of course... as are skin problems, hormonal imbalances and so on...

We pay them $300k to be human lie detectors? You can't objectively measure the pain someone is experiencing. There is nothing to stop me from lying and no way of verifying the veracity of my claim. NOTHING YOU SAY MAKES SENSE.

It doesn't matter Phelia. Think about it: If the state does it, I get to pay for it through my taxes. If my insurance company does it, I get to pay through my premium. In either case, I get to pay. I don't really care who assumes the role of payment processor.

It does matter, fuckwad, when you're claiming that control of women's fertility will be handed over to the state. Your ridiculous slippery slope argument had nothing to do with who was on the hook financially. You can't even keep your own narratives straight.

I think Lori's right. You're a troll.

Erhm... is there a door#3 I can pick?

No.

If I fucked, at least you can rest assured that I paid for my own birth control

HAHA OH I GET IT LIKE YOU'RE IMPLYING WE HAD SEX HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA fuck off.

 

[Garnate]

I'm strangely turned on by Phelia's anger.







I'm still going to flash you, girlie. I know it sounds like one of those fake-horrible threats but this is a serious thread and you don't want my 980x550 tits popping up and filling your screen while you're trying to make a point.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm strangely turned on by Phelia's anger.







I'm still going to flash you, girlie. I know it sounds like one of those fake-horrible threats but this is a serious thread and you don't want my 980x550 tits popping up and filling your screen while you're trying to make a point.

Really? one's 980 and the other's 550?

They looked a LOT more symmetrical the last time you flashed 'em here!

Didja have a mammogram malfunction or something?

 

[Garnate]

Really? one's 980 and the other's 550?

They looked a LOT more symmetrical the last time you flashed 'em here!

Didja have a mammogram malfunction or something?

I'm talking picture size and you know it. I will NOT downsize if I'm trying to make a point.

 

[Phelia]

I'm strangely turned on by Phelia's anger.







I'm still going to flash you, girlie. I know it sounds like one of those fake-horrible threats but this is a serious thread and you don't want my 980x550 tits popping up and filling your screen while you're trying to make a point.

I love raging! I wish I could be angry all the time. But then there are so many lovely things in the world, like butterflies and bubbles and boobies that I just can't help but feel very happy and serene.

Speaking of boobies, oh-em-gee 980x550 is the sexiest of pixel dimensions. I don't have snapchat but I saw your thread and in my head I sent you a photo of my face and bazooms and then I saw what you sent back and it made my cheeks hot.

 

[StrangeLife]

I'm having quite a bit of fun having him explain the intellectual disconnect between

• "lack of sex for a woman is not bad because sex for a woman is recreational and I don't want to pay for her orgasms dammit"
• "lack of sex for a man is a disease dammit and should be paid for by insurance"

Well, since you appear to have me enrolled in a gender-political strawman situation, please allow me to clarify...

- Sex for pleasure is recreational, regardless of your gender.

- I don't feel obliged to pay for your birth control, regardless of your gender.

- If you need special meds in order to have sex I don't feel obliged to pay for it, regardless of your gender.

- If you're sick you should have the right to treatment, regardless of your gender.

- If you're pregnant you should have the right to prenatal care, regardless of yo... eh, never mind.

- If you decide to abort your pregnancy, it's nobody's decision but your own and you should have the right to do so at your leisure.


See? I'm a very equal opportunity kinda guy. I don't wanna pay for either one

 

[Phelia]

- If you're pregnant you should have the right to prenatal care, regardless of yo... eh, never mind.

- If you decide to abort your pregnancy, it's nobody's decision but your own and you should have the right to do so at your leisure.

SL, I still think you are a silly monster and I would like to punch you in the spleen, but I appreciate these last two points. Thank you.

Although perhaps "leisure" is not the best choice of words?

 

[Garnate]

I love raging! I wish I could be angry all the time. But then there are so many lovely things in the world, like butterflies and bubbles and boobies that I just can't help but feel very happy and serene.

Speaking of boobies, oh-em-gee 980x550 is the sexiest of pixel dimensions. I don't have snapchat but I saw your thread and in my head I sent you a photo of my face and bazooms and then I saw what you sent back and it made my cheeks hot.

Every 4th word = you need to get snapchat ASAP. Please?

Looks like the tension is now diffused and all I had to do was threaten nudity.

Not the first time that worked.