Whats behind a cat call?

[mamasota]

I whistle to call my outdoor cat to eat, maybe I should just get it a cellphone?

Gracias, lorita, you just made me smile

 

[VaticanAssassin]

I love the pictures in this article. Each guy has the same look.."why the fuck is she taking a picture of me, she must want me, I better try to look cool"

Her website is down and I am not sure if the Google images are her or her photos. I want to know what she looks like. Maybe she is so hot cat calls are mandatory.

 

[Adre]

Those who are offended by an appreciative whistle...perhaps never received one? Lighten up, it's a construction worker on lunch break. Jeez.

 

[dolf]

adre, you're an arse.

 

[Adre]

Somehow I figured you'd be the one to say that. Have at it.

 

[dolf]

the 'only ugly birds who don't get attention and are secretly jealous are bothered by it' implication bugs me. like women (should) only have two motivations for this scene: ugly & jealous or lapping up the compliments.

you may think it's just a worker whistling on his break, but I've had explicit remarks made about my breasts and arse, by a group of men, whilst i'm pushing a pram and holding the hand of a 5y/o girl. and then i'm faced with explaining this to my freaked out child and dragging them the extra distance to avoid that site until it moves.
and, no, i'm not saying we should clap 'em all in irons and bring back public flogging. but it would be kinda nice if instead of acting like apes they could engage their brains, just appreciate seeing something they like, maybe smile and say good morning (because I will smile and say good morning back) instead of making my life just that tiny bit uglier.

and if you big strong men take my 'wouldn't life be nicer if all guys were... nice?' wish as some evil, ball crushing, oppressive feminist act then I feel a bit sad for you.

 

[Recidiva]

Those who are offended by an appreciative whistle...perhaps never received one? Lighten up, it's a construction worker on lunch break. Jeez.

Yeah, this is the mindset that is pretty much implacable and unresponsive to anybody else's preferences.

You might consider that people who are less overtly sexual don't want to be reminded of sexuality constantly. It's such a huge part of the culture and it's intrusive. Also, many of the women that are being cat called (me included) are not interested in whether or not I am found attractive. Although it may not bother me particularly other than in a rolling eye sense, there are many women that are so completely sick of this crap and/or aren't interested sexually in men at all and would so much love to not hear about it that you might have at that.

 

[Recidiva]

"Rape culture!!! RAPE CULTURE!!!"

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/275/979/34b.jpg

Explain to me why I must give way to what someone else wants instead of wanting what I want.

Because that would be interesting.

 

[Peregrinator]

I love the pictures in this article. Each guy has the same look.."why the fuck is she taking a picture of me, she must want me, I better try to look cool"

Her website is down and I am not sure if the Google images are her or her photos. I want to know what she looks like. Maybe she is so hot cat calls are mandatory.

Am I the only one who noticed that "one of these things is not like the others?" Is there a person in pic #8 that I can't see?

This is her, apparently from her Facebook page (bing image search result):

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn2/c159.51.642.642/s160x160/971537_10100523943280573_601624311_n.jpg

 

[1sickbastard]

What IS behind a catcall?

http://static.awkwardfamilyphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/2013/04/sierra_frye_full/1165340622.jpg

Nah, that'd be too simple.

 

[Phelia]

Am I the only one who noticed that "one of these things is not like the others?" Is there a person in pic #8 that I can't see?

This is her, apparently from her Facebook page (bing image search result):

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn2/c159.51.642.642/s160x160/971537_10100523943280573_601624311_n.jpg

Price also included a few scenes with no breathing human subjects in the frame, such as a photo of a Marian Anderson image and a beauty salon advertisement. The inclusion of these nonportraits heightens the ambiguity of the project. In a video interview, Price talks about her decision to include this imagery alongside the photos of the men.

"The nonportraits are more of how I would like to be approached. I would like to be approached in a respectable manner, or I would definitely like to fall in love," she says. "The nonportraits are more sort of how I envision a romantic encounter. I don't know if catcalling is necessarily romantic, it's more of like an instant in a situation."

I don't think that's a photo of her. There is video of her being interviewed in the embedded Youtube clip.

 

[Adre]

the 'only ugly birds who don't get attention and are secretly jealous are bothered by it' implication bugs me. like women (should) only have two motivations for this scene: ugly & jealous or lapping up the compliments.

you may think it's just a worker whistling on his break, but I've had explicit remarks made about my breasts and arse, by a group of men, whilst i'm pushing a pram and holding the hand of a 5y/o girl. and then i'm faced with explaining this to my freaked out child and dragging them the extra distance to avoid that site until it moves.
and, no, i'm not saying we should clap 'em all in irons and bring back public flogging. but it would be kinda nice if instead of acting like apes they could engage their brains, just appreciate seeing something they like, maybe smile and say good morning (because I will smile and say good morning back) instead of making my life just that tiny bit uglier.

and if you big strong men take my 'wouldn't life be nicer if all guys were... nice?' wish as some evil, ball crushing, oppressive feminist act then I feel a bit sad for you.

I never mentioned 'ugly' and was not thinking it either. (I wrote some more stuff then deleted it, because you will just crush my balls more and I'm not into it.) Cheers.

 

[Recidiva]

I never mentioned 'ugly' and was not thinking it either. (I wrote some more stuff then deleted it, because you will just crush my balls more and I'm not into it.) Cheers.

Yeah, you did.

"Those who are offended by an appreciative whistle...perhaps never received one?"

Implication is that the hot women want it and are cock teases if they don't want it and the ugly ones want it and bitch if they don't get it.

It's a crappy line of thought that has nothing to do with what women think. Perhaps if you listened to women about it, you'd know what we thought.

 

[dolf]

because you will just crush my balls more and I'm not into it.

lies. and damn lies. i just need to wear the right shoes.

 

[Adre]

Yeah, this is the mindset that is pretty much implacable and unresponsive to anybody else's preferences.

You might consider that people who are less overtly sexual don't want to be reminded of sexuality constantly. It's such a huge part of the culture and it's intrusive. Also, many of the women that are being cat called (me included) are not interested in whether or not I am found attractive. Although it may not bother me particularly other than in a rolling eye sense, there are many women that are so completely sick of this crap and/or aren't interested sexually in men at all and would so much love to not hear about it that you might have at that.

Fine. But I take issue with the idea that many women are not interested in being found attractive. High heeled shoes tell me otherwise.

 

[Adre]

Yeah, you did.

"Those who are offended by an appreciative whistle...perhaps never received one?"

Implication is that the hot women want it and are cock teases if they don't want it and the ugly ones want it and bitch if they don't get it.

It's a crappy line of thought that has nothing to do with what women think. Perhaps if you listened to women about it, you'd know what we thought.

I won't be responsible for what you infer. And my wife tells me what she thinks every day.

 

[dolf]

Fine. But I take issue with the idea that many women are not interested in being found attractive. High heeled shoes tell me otherwise.

wanting to be attractive does not equate to wanting everyone who finds us attractive to make a public declaration of the fact.

...this is why i mostly dress like a librarian though. i would rather be seen as frumpy than deal with it.

 

[1sickbastard]

Am I the only one who noticed that "one of these things is not like the others?" Is there a person in pic #8 that I can't see?

This is her, apparently from her Facebook page (bing image search result):

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-prn2/c159.51.642.642/s160x160/971537_10100523943280573_601624311_n.jpg

Hit the youtube image in the NPR article. The last two minutes or so is an on camera interview with the photographer.

 

[Adre]

wanting to be attractive does not equate to wanting everyone who finds us attractive to make a public declaration of the fact.

...this is why i mostly dress like a librarian though. i would rather be seen as frumpy than deal with it.

Librarians are hot.

 

[mamasota]

Those who are offended by an appreciative whistle...perhaps never received one? Lighten up, it's a construction worker on lunch break. Jeez.

Adre, that is the best way I think to describe what I consider an appreciative flattery from men to women. Of course sometimes the words can be un poquito suggestive in the meaning, but where I grew up the latina ladies could get mad if none of the men (echar un piropo) gave that cat call when she passed by
I got my share

cat call, maybe?

 

[Adre]

Adre, that is the best way I think to describe what I consider an appreciative flattery from men to women. Of course sometimes the words can be un poquito suggestive in the meaning, but where I grew up the latina ladies could get mad if none of the men (echar un piropo) gave that cat call when she passed by
I got my share

cat call, maybe?

You said it better than I did. Prepare to be smacked down though.

 

[Recidiva]

Fine. But I take issue with the idea that many women are not interested in being found attractive. High heeled shoes tell me otherwise.

And here's the thing. Some women like to look attractive. That's fine. However, wanting to look attractive doesn't mean "want to be told by every passing obscene stranger that they'd like to fuck you."

So there are respectful ways and intrusive ways to let someone know you find them attractive. And in general, doing so before being given any sort of social signal that it might be welcome is just a way of being intrusive and not just intrusive, but sexually intrusive.

If I'm hot, I can be hot for me, I can be hot for my husband, I can be hot for fun. If my daughter is hot and is hot for her and I'm walking down the street with her and men start cat calling...how gross is that? Pretty damned gross.

Others are completely irrelevant to my thought process. It's just an "ick" factor about how certain personalities see something and immediately picture how they could use that "thing" for self gratification, and in fact that "thing" is a person.

I don't want that in my head, it's really not that complicated. Someone might think that saying "Hey, you look like you'd be fun to fuck" makes me think "Wow, I'm hot!" but what it really does is shove a picture of me and that person fucking into my head and BOY do I not want that there.

When you can't walk in a public place like NYC without hearing about it every block, it gets really, really old, really fast. Look at the sky! (Whoah, look at those tits!) smell the air (hey lady, wanna fuck in the alleyway?) take a breath of the... (Yo, honey! how's about you and me...") Fuck it. I hate today. Gonna put my head down and get there fast. Assholes.

Keep it to yourself, wait for the social signals that it might be welcomed. It's not that hard. Rethink why it's done and how it's received and if you realize you have a higher chance of offending someone than complimenting them (and I can't imagine how someone wouldn't know that) it just becomes about having your way and deciding anybody who doesn't want your way is a "ball buster" instead of listening to their experience.

It costs a man or a woman absolutely nothing to keep their mouth shut about whatever might be going on through his head about what they'd like to do with someone else's body.

 

[Fata Morgana]

I always think whenever those diet coke ads are on if it were the other way round and the men were ogling and drooling over the women, there would be a terrible outcry.

 

[Recidiva]

I always think whenever those diet coke ads are on if it were the other way round and the men were ogling and drooling over the women, there would be a terrible outcry.

Just let gay guys cat call straight men all day and see how they like it. It's about equivalent.

"Oooh, honey, wouldn't I like to use that ass for a spell."

 

[Adre]

And here's the thing. Some women like to look attractive. That's fine. However, wanting to look attractive doesn't mean "want to be told by every passing obscene stranger that they'd like to fuck you."

So there are respectful ways and intrusive ways to let someone know you find them attractive. And in general, doing so before being given any sort of social signal that it might be welcome is just a way of being intrusive and not just intrusive, but sexually intrusive.

If I'm hot, I can be hot for me, I can be hot for my husband, I can be hot for fun. If my daughter is hot and is hot for her and I'm walking down the street with her and men start cat calling...how gross is that? Pretty damned gross.

Others are completely irrelevant to my thought process. It's just an "ick" factor about how certain personalities see something and immediately picture how they could use that "thing" for self gratification, and in fact that "thing" is a person.

I don't want that in my head, it's really not that complicated. Someone might think that saying "Hey, you look like you'd be fun to fuck" makes me think "Wow, I'm hot!" but what it really does is shove a picture of me and that person fucking into my head and BOY do I not want that there.

When you can't walk in a public place like NYC without hearing about it every block, it gets really, really old, really fast. Look at the sky! (Whoah, look at those tits!) smell the air (hey lady, wanna fuck in the alleyway?) take a breath of the... (Yo, honey! how's about you and me...") Fuck it. I hate today. Gonna put my head down and get there fast. Assholes.

Keep it to yourself, wait for the social signals that it might be welcomed. It's not that hard. Rethink why it's done and how it's received and if you realize you have a higher chance of offending someone than complimenting them (and I can't imagine how someone wouldn't know that) it just becomes about having your way and deciding anybody who doesn't want your way is a "ball buster" instead of listening to their experience.

It costs a man or a woman absolutely nothing to keep their mouth shut about whatever might be going on through his head about what they'd like to do with someone else's body.

Okay, Reci. You took my "appreciative whistle" and equated it with "wanna fuck in the alleyway?" You win. Because you have to.