Crimes of Passion

[pointless]

No, that's the misinterpretation of what she said. She laughed about it because so many of you obviously have reading comprehension issues.

Now that enough "someones" complained to get the original posts removed you can carry on with however you wish to interpret things. But that's the ick in your own heads. Nothing anyone says will ever convince you otherwise because you have your collective minds made up as to what happened. Any attempt at clarification is called backtracking or being a "fucking liar" as Wings so delicately put it.

Being tipped off to the twitter banter was just icing and explained a lot of alliances around here, why some pile on, why some sit silently by. I'd probably keep quiet too if I had this lot standing about, torches in hand, waiting for the next witch to come along.

Who knows, that next witch may be you.

well, some of us have seen this kind of thing many times before. see flapjacks, see people telling me to stop talking to other people in PMs because they're "whiny", et cetera. i'd suggest not caring.

also, i don't think anyone here gets how "mobs" work. they generally aren't well led, ruled from the top type affairs. they are swarms, they are stampedes.

and on and on. i'm going to wander off now. you kids all have fun. i have real shit to worry about.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

For the record, I like Reci, I always have.

But she can't play it both ways.

I would find it much more honest to just accept a mistake was made, and move on.

To keep saying we are all meanie boo boo heads and she wasn't wrong is the issue.

I wish though that the posts were not removed, so that everyone could see what was said. Anyone coming in afterwards is at a disadvantage.

It was a mistake in interpretation and rather than ask for clarification the pitchforks and torches came out in force. When clarification was given it was called backtracking and being a "fucking liar".

I'm sure Wings can provide you with a copy of the original post, since she was so hurt and appalled that she kept a copy of it.... What? Doesn't everyone do that?

Careful, tread lightly, they may smell a witch.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

We should hold Laurel down and fuck her up the butthole

You could've just stopped right there, you know.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Geeezz.. Is this worth a read?
Looks like a DramaFest.

I was here when the thread was first posted and just read the last half a dozen pages and a few things seem clear

Firstly no one seems to know what a paedophile is….

A paedophile primarily has a sexual interest in prepubescent children.

A Hebephile primarily has a sexual interest in 11–14 year old pubescents

A Ephebophile primarily has a sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents (15–19)

For cliff notes:

Oh, absolutely. I've lied about being older (obviously).

So it would be a surprise that a 14 yo boy, in a conversation becoming sexual, would lie when talking to an older woman about 14yo’s old?

i'm glad you're OK with screwing with 14 year old boys (as long as they're SPECIAL 14 year old boys) -- which btw is probably the textbook excuse for every predator out there -- but i don't think you're a predator. i just think you're a bit messed up. my opinion of course, is about as irrelevant to you as yours (and your theoretical laughter) is to me.

Well, to clarify, I didn't actually have sex with the guy. I met him as a roleplayer online and I had a roleplay relationship with him, and a real friendship where I'd talk to him on the phone about his life and we'd exchange emails.
Snip…..
Believe that or don't, I'm not here crowing about it being a great thing everybody should do. I'm listing it under "crime" and it's not something I'm proud about, but it is something that happened. To me it was an emotional and not a physical relationship, but was it still outside of what is considered lawful? Yes.

Then after 54 pages Reci is now a vilified Paedophile.

How bad her actions were seem to hang on at what point she knew he was 14 and what happened, after he was 16, in the front of the car. And no one here knows that except Reci the rest is conjecture and wishful thinking.

Woof!

 

[Bad_Doggie]

I know she isn't, and that isn't why I'm posting. I'm posting because as long as she continues to claim that she's being somehow victimised and we're all misconstruing her words etc etc, I'm going to continue to point out how very incorrect that is. Or at least I will until I get bored and tired of repeating myself.
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i'm glad you're OK with screwing with 14 year old boys (as long as they're SPECIAL 14 year old boys) -- .

Where exactly did she say that?

Woof!

 

[Wings]

Oh I'm totally the bad guy here!

 

[Killswitch]

Oh I'm totally the bad guy here!

Its the penis between the tits and the laserdick. It's very confusing.

 

[Wings]

Its the penis between the tits and the laserdick. It's very confusing.

You should see me juggle. With my cunt.

 

[Recidiva]

For the record, I like Reci, I always have.

But she can't play it both ways.

I would find it much more honest to just accept a mistake was made, and move on.

To keep saying we are all meanie boo boo heads and she wasn't wrong is the issue.

I wish though that the posts were not removed, so that everyone could see what was said. Anyone coming in afterwards is at a disadvantage.

I like you too.

I just had a little nap, I'm tired.

Really, it was a puzzle in my head where I was trying to check why things turned out that way and I just followed some hints and some hunches and I'm good with the way the Universe is built.

You're all free to make your own choices. I have no ill will, I said something about resentment being drinking poison and thinking someone else will die. I might have colorfully told people to fuck themselves metaphorically or disagreed with their logic, but as beings who walk the earth...that's irrelevant. I hope for more happiness in the world. That I can't do it and my good intentions or my humor or whatever is irrelevant is as obvious here as it is in my earnest attempts to discuss the problems of Syria. Laughably naïve. I caught on quickly that my sin was in being too honest and/or too flippant and hoping that people would meet me halfway if they couldn't meet me all the way. Well, that was dumb.

Scent of weakness triggered all sorts of responses. I didn't feel weak, but what it triggered was real.

Whether or not someone plays with me or trolls me on Lit is only of my interest and nobody else's. I'm less concerned with what people believe compared to why they believe it, I guess.

Interesting enough to spend some time unraveling in my head, not important enough to carry any ill will.

I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth probing every psyche before I make a poop joke with them and expect them to laugh. No, probably not.

That I care is my problem. I intellectually know I should not care, but I do. Not necessarily in a fevered, obsessive way, but in a slow mulling way where I try to work it all out in its elements.

But my own psyche is sufficiently probed. I appreciate that you think that confession would be good for the soul and would make things right. That is true to you and that's cool.

But for me it would be like admitting that I daily run a donkey show in Tijuana.

If it would give the group closure, that's too bad. Even if it would have been a really good donkey show.

 

[bg23]

So it would be a surprise that a 14 yo boy, in a conversation becoming sexual, would lie when talking to an older woman about 14yo’s old?

Nope. But she knew.

link

Then after 54 pages Reci is now a vilified Paedophile.

How bad her actions were seem to hang on at what point she knew he was 14 and what happened, after he was 16, in the front of the car. And no one here knows that except Reci the rest is conjecture and wishful thinking.

Woof!

I haven't called her a pedophile. Specifically what I said was:

if i was fucking around with a 14 year old right now at my age i would wonder why i couldn't get a man my own age, and then probably shoot myself.

Her response:

Well, he was one of the guys I was messing around with at the same time, probably one in six. One was probably twice my age, two or three were about my age.

Ok, so let's say then that she didn't realise I meant fucking around with was sexual (but then why justify it with the age of the other men? and obviously since i'm saying "find a man", that's what she's talking about, that she CAN find a man, she was doing it with many - not just the 14 year old)

But then we have this:

But if I was 25 and a 14 year old asked me for cyber and I KNEW he was 14 and did it anyway, well, then wtf.

Well, if I had a time machine, I'd go back and tell him this story, and he and I would laugh at you.

I wouldn't feel bad about either talking to him about it, spending time with him, or thinking that your opinion on the matter is pretty irrelevant to the conversation.

If you're going to treat me like some older lady predator who can't handle men her age, or treat him like your average 14 year old, we'd just laugh harder.

So if the narrative is, nothing happened and it was never sexual in the first place, why justify it with "he wasn't your average 14 year old"?

Like I've said since the beginning I've never called her a pedo nor do I think she's a predator. I think what she did was have a messed up relationship with definite sexual content with a 14 year old boy and I think it was wrong for her to say it was justified because she "rehabilitated" him.

 

[Saint Peter]

How old was the donkey?

 

[Recidiva]

I agree. But you still have to live it....and I'll tell you you guys sure can pick em. Reci isn't ever going to give in to you.

You know this. She's tenacious at the very least.

I think you had the best line of the thread, so yeah, I heard one of the funniest things I'd ever heard in a thread excoriating me for horrors I didn't do and I was inappropriately deeply amused.

I'm tenacious, but it's like Dr. House. There's a puzzle, and then whether or not the patient lived or died, as long as I figure out what killed them, I'm okay.

I think I got it. But I thought I had it a week ago and I thought I had it yesterday and weird shit keeps on happening.

*shrug* Wacky and wonderful world of weirdness. Still better than being bored. I might have more productively spent my time meditating. But I probably wouldn't have learned so much.

 

[Recidiva]

We should hold Laurel down and fuck her up the butthole for deleting the good ones!

You're part of the reason why I'm so inappropriately amused.

I hope you're sorry for what you've done.

 

[Recidiva]

Oh I'm totally the bad guy here!

You're not the bad guy.

You're just not the shining good guy.

I was never the shining good guy and now I'm the bad guy.

*shrug*

 

[Recidiva]

How old was the donkey?

Well, there's this one time in Tijuana when...heeeey.

 

[CHNOPS]

There is no conspiracy. There was no sensing of weakness. There is no great Twitter cover-up.

There was you posting about your sexual involvement with a 14-year-old, which continued after you discovered his age. There was you claiming that rather than damaging him, you were rehabilitating the unusually mature boy. Then, when people seemed repulsed by this--all on their own, without need for a ringmaster or cult leader--there was you claiming that all the words in all your posts meant something different from what they sounded like, and the rest was a plot against you.

This--not your 100,000 words of mosquito spray since, not your relentless need to bump this thread when it falls below the fold, not even your ironic, unearned condescension--is the reason you suck. You crossed a line with a 14-year-old boy, rationalized it as a heroic act, and have not come to grips, 20 years later, with what you did.

 

[Killswitch]

You should see me juggle. With my cunt.

You're better at it than Reci?

 

[VaticanAssassin]

I honestly can't tell if Sean or Chnops is the bigger liar. Maybe they are both just that vile and stupid. Yep, that's it.

 

[Recidiva]

You're better at it than Reci?

...I'm kind of hoping she would have to be. I haven't put time in on my craft.

Not even cool tricks with ping pong balls.

 

[Killswitch]

...I'm kind of hoping she would have to be. I haven't put time in on my craft.

Not even cool tricks with ping pong balls.

It was a metaphor actually for all the juggling you're doing.

Just own it and move on.

Unless you want this to continue forever, you're just going to have to let someone else have the last word....for once. Can I get an Amen Ulevan?

Plus this is going to define you now so....

 

[Sean]

I honestly can't tell if Sean or Chnops is the bigger liar. Maybe they are both just that vile and stupid. Yep, that's it.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[Laurel]

I honestly can't tell if Sean or Chnops is the bigger liar. Maybe they are both just that vile and stupid. Yep, that's it.

With all due respect, what does that have to do with anything being said?

This is why I posted the Jerry Springer pics before. Because people come to the thread and see that some people are arguing with other people. And rather than taking the time to see what they're arguing about, they say, "Oh, I really like Reci, so I'll take her side," or "Oh, I don't like Reci, so I'll take the other side," or "CHNOPS is an asshole so I'll take the opposite side from him" or "Someone on the forum picked on me once, so I'll take this side." And it's all reactionary and illogical and boring and stupid. And this is why these threads turn to shit in 5 pages - because no one knows what the fuck is going on.

This is true on every drama thread in the history of drama threads.

If people would actually read threads and make decisions based on what they read, things would be different. But if that were how people functioned, political threads would be better too.

And that's my last word on this clusterfuck.

 

[girlsmiley]

With all due respect, what does that have to do with anything being said?

This is why I posted the Jerry Springer pics before. Because people come to the thread and see that some people are arguing with other people. And rather than taking the time to see what they're arguing about, they say, "Oh, I really like Reci, so I'll take her side," or "Oh, I don't like Reci, so I'll take the other side," or "CHNOPS is an asshole so I'll take the opposite side from him" or "Someone on the forum picked on me once, so I'll take this side." And it's all reactionary and illogical and boring and stupid. And this is why these threads turn to shit in 5 pages - because no one knows what the fuck is going on.

This is true on every drama thread in the history of drama threads.

If people would actually read threads and make decisions based on what they read, things would be different. But if that were how people functioned, political threads would be better too.

And that's my last word on this clusterfuck.

 

[lovetoread]

With all due respect, what does that have to do with anything being said?

This is why I posted the Jerry Springer pics before. Because people come to the thread and see that some people are arguing with other people. And rather than taking the time to see what they're arguing about, they say, "Oh, I really like Reci, so I'll take her side," or "Oh, I don't like Reci, so I'll take the other side," or "CHNOPS is an asshole so I'll take the opposite side from him" or "Someone on the forum picked on me once, so I'll take this side." And it's all reactionary and illogical and boring and stupid. And this is why these threads turn to shit in 5 pages - because no one knows what the fuck is going on.

This is true on every drama thread in the history of drama threads.

If people would actually read threads and make decisions based on what they read, things would be different. But if that were how people functioned, political threads would be better too.

And that's my last word on this clusterfuck.

You should let us like posts, woman.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Like when you say you think when clearly you don't? Yep, that's what it means.