RobDownSouth
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Did you check under the refrigerator? They tend to roll around everywhere when you drop 'em on the floor....
Crimes of Passion
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Did you check under the refrigerator? They tend to roll around everywhere when you drop 'em on the floor....
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JAMESBJOHNSON
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People fool you. When I was a youngster I had a 26 year old girl friend for a couple of months. It was swell till she learned how old I was. But till someone squealed she didn't know, and had a good time.
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He and I have been friends, eventually he lost his virginity to a pair of cheerleaders.
Oh, absolutely. I've lied about being older (obviously). You can't be blamed if you're fooled and have no idea that you're screwing with a 14 year old. She thought she was with an older guy, she didn't know she was messing with a kid.
But if I was 25 and a 14 year old asked me for cyber and I KNEW he was 14 and did it anyway, well, then wtf.
subdued_passion
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The first guy I dated was in college and I was 11 at the time but told him I was 18. He was pretty mad when he discovered my actual age.
subdued_passion
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A pair huh? Imagine what he could've done without the rehabilitation.
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Well, if I had a time machine, I'd go back and tell him this story, and he and I would laugh at you.
I wouldn't feel bad about either talking to him about it, spending time with him, or thinking that your opinion on the matter is pretty irrelevant to the conversation.
If you're going to treat me like some older lady predator who can't handle men her age, or treat him like your average 14 year old, we'd just laugh harder.
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I tried, but he still went his own way a virgin, evangelist Republican and Christian.
I can't work miracles, just provide fun company.
i dunno, 4 divorces and an inability to form relationships outside of cyberspace pretty much says it all to me about your ability to handle men, or people in general.
i'm glad you're OK with screwing with 14 year old boys (as long as they're SPECIAL 14 year old boys) -- which btw is probably the textbook excuse for every predator out there -- but i don't think you're a predator. i just think you're a bit messed up. my opinion of course, is about as irrelevant to you as yours (and your theoretical laughter) is to me.
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Okey dokey.
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My mama bear meter tapped out to the far side of WHAT THE HELL? Frankly, you should have been prosecuted for that. If it had been my child, I would have made sure charges were pressed.
The other problem here is that this kid was not being properly monitored by his parents during his online time. This, my friends, is why you need to be in the room when your kids are online so that an adult does not get unfettered access to your kid.
Reci, just curious. I believe at least one or two of your kids is the same age as the boy you had sexual contact with. How would you feel if a man or a woman in their mid to late 20s messed around with your 14 year old?
One more thing while I am being the moral police here (because someone has to speak out). Regardless of his attitude toward sex and perceived maturity, he was underage and not legally able to give consent. That has to be noted. I find the whole matter disgusting.
My mama bear meter tapped out to the far side of WHAT THE HELL? Frankly, you should have been prosecuted for that. If it had been my child, I would have made sure charges were pressed.
The other problem here is that this kid was not being properly monitored by his parents during his online time. This, my friends, is why you need to be in the room when your kids are online so that an adult does not get unfettered access to your kid.
Reci, just curious. I believe at least one or two of your kids is the same age as the boy you had sexual contact with. How would you feel if a man or a woman in their mid to late 20s messed around with your 14 year old?
One more thing while I am being the moral police here (because someone has to speak out). Regardless of his attitude toward sex and perceived maturity, he was underage and not legally able to give consent. That has to be noted. I find the whole matter disgusting.
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Your mother was so drunk that she forgot your age?
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Ah, the good old double standard of underage sex.
If it's an older guy and an underage girl, bring out the pitchforks.
If it's an older woman and an underage boy, give the boy high-fives.
In your 20s and fooling around with someone that age and now laughing about it. Pretty fucking sick if you ask me.
If it's an older guy and an underage girl, bring out the pitchforks.
If it's an older woman and an underage boy, give the boy high-fives.
In your 20s and fooling around with someone that age and now laughing about it. Pretty fucking sick if you ask me.
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Was just going to note that. It's pretty clearly documented that pedophiles rationalize their behavior by saying they were helping, or rehabilitating, their victims. It is not possible for us to rationalize that behavior, probably because we have the mama bear protective gene tuned to a high degree.
memoirs of grace...
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Well, to clarify, I didn't actually have sex with the guy. I met him as a roleplayer online and I had a roleplay relationship with him, and a real friendship where I'd talk to him on the phone about his life and we'd exchange emails.
My daughter is 26 and my son is 15 with Asperger's, of course I'm concerned about sexual predators. I didn't actually have sex with the kid, I talked to him about it, very different set of circumstances.
Believe that or don't, I'm not here crowing about it being a great thing everybody should do. I'm listing it under "crime" and it's not something I'm proud about, but it is something that happened. To me it was an emotional and not a physical relationship, but was it still outside of what is considered lawful? Yes.
Do I think I did the kid some good? Yeah, actually I do. Do I think I could have been charged with a crime? Yep. If my daughter or son had a relationship with a person that much older, would I freak out? Hell yes.
This is not "Reci endorses pedophilia" but nor do I think that bg23 gets to get the number of my divorces wrong and tell me essentially to shoot myself.
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I am with you. It disgusts me when I don't see people equally incensed over the situation with an older woman and younger man. Grown women should not have sexual contact with children. Period.
If a man in his mid to late 20s had said about a 14 year old girl that he got sexually involved with online, "She was already corrupt," I'd call that classic victim blaming.
Okay, so did you have a sexual relationship with him online? Because you said you got involved with him -- which I took to mean, sexual relationship, ie cyber, sexual talk, etc. You spoke about getting physical later which I assumed meant you must have started out with a sexual relationship online. If you didn't cyber him, then obviously what I said about cybering 14 year olds shouldn't have applied to you.
And just because I said I'd shoot myself if I were to ever do that doesn't mean that I think you should. People have different deal-breakers.
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Youre closer to the truth than you imagine. And only cuz I didn't like her.
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You took your shot, bg, I don't really think I'm going to have a civil conversation with you on the subject. You've made clear that I'm scum and should be ashamed of myself and I can't manage my relationships and I'm messed up.
So I'll just give you a wide berth and I'll keep that in mind.
Yes, you mean my response to your post talking about laughing at me with your teenage boy-friend? Yes, I can see how you would now need to stop being civil with me.
I'm sorry if I got the number of your divorces wrong or if you felt I was suggesting you shoot yourself, but either you did or you didn't cyber him. If you didn't have a sexual relationship with him online -- I apologise, I clearly misread.
If you did, well then my point stands, and I find the concept of you "laughing" about your dalliance with a 14 year old because he was "not your average 14 year old" and that you "rehabilitated him" just as abhorrent, and terribly flippant, contrary to your claim that you weren't crowing about it.
*shrug* everyone is messed up to some degree. It's hardly a capital offence.
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She knew how old he was. She forgot she was his mother.
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JAMESBJOHNSON
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I grew up in a different world. When I was 20 my aunt hooked me up with her niece who was 15. A neighbor brought her 15 year old sister over to meet me. I fucked all of them. I fucked another 15 year old who came up to see a friend next door. That doesnt mean everyone liked what I did. They didn't. My uncle was quite unhappy. But the dislike was more along the lines of finding dog shit in your yard.
And I took the same attitude when I walked in the door and caught my daughters fucking in the livingroom. I didn't go crazy. I didn't call the cops. I didn't approve. I said SAY GOOD NIGHT GRACIE, AND HURRY BACK SOON.
All girls wanna fuck. There are no good girls. And it doesn't mean theyre evil.
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It was weirder than that. She didn't want another woman to get me. It her mind it was like loaning your Cadillac or underwear. I was the Prince.
