Gunplay

[Netzach]

And you know what? It's really weird, but being insulted, put down & called names really makes me want to stop!

...not.


Besides, R.A.C.K.

I notice no one commented on the risk of rape roleplay. Because it's really important to overreact to the risk of BDSM activities we disagree with, and minimize the risk of the ones we like.

"Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go."
-T.S. Eliot

Because your super hypothetical "what if s/he freaks out and offs self" scenario is so out there as to be an almost never happens. If you want to freak out over something, solo bondage kills more people than anything else we do.

But "fucking around with guns esp. when drunk" offs more people than rape roleplay remorse also.

 

[Netzach]

This is interesting. I never knew gun play was a thing. (I should probably err on the side that EVERYTHING under the sun may be kinkified!)

Is this a loaded firearm we are talking about? If so, then I just cannot make that okay in my mind because guns, whatever they may do for you, are not toys. I'm sure it isn't anyone's intention to put Pachet down, but safety is so very important and the risks are dire. Has anyone seen someone shot before? I have and I assure you that it is very much the opposite of sexy.

Yeah, I call the closer you are to this the less hot it usually is.

 

[Pachet]

Yeah, I call the closer you are to this the less hot it usually is.

Sorry, but you're wrong. And that's all I'm gonna say about that, cos the rest is no one's fucking business.

 

[Netzach]

Sorry, but you're wrong. And that's all I'm gonna say about that, cos the rest is no one's fucking business.

Is there some part of "usually" that's eluding you, or do you think you're the only person on earth who knows anything and anyone?

 

[Pachet]

Because your super hypothetical "what if s/he freaks out and offs self" scenario is so out there as to be an almost never happens. If you want to freak out over something, solo bondage kills more people than anything else we do.

But "fucking around with guns esp. when drunk" offs more people than rape roleplay remorse also.

And you know this, because?

I guess every person who's ever rape roleplayed has reported to you afterwards about how it made them feel?

I can think of two gunplay deaths off the top of my head. But ok, fine, I'll go with the argument that rape roleplay doesn't occasionally FUCK PEOPLE UP, just becase you haven't personally heard about it.

"Is there some part of "usually" that's eluding you, or do you think you're the only person on earth who knows anything and anyone? "

oh, the irony.

Lets go with self-bondage. I'd venture to say there are far more self-bondage deaths than gunplay deaths. But gunplay is more taboo, so people naturally freak out about it more.

Btw, I'd be happy to have a civil conversation about this, but that's not how I'm being approached, so... forgive me if my tone matches yours.

 

[Netzach]

You know who saws off their fingers? It's not novice woodworkers. It's the guys who absolutely know their shit inside and out and are pushing late into the night one night. So if your boyfriend is the Marine with the largest sack in the known universe, if he's the God of Gun Safety and Protocol, then I still throw out a big

whatthefuckever

there's nothing else we do where one slipped inch means you're painting the walls. Not even the most intensive bondage ever.

You're not going to find me arguing against more bondage safety worry. Maybe your bottom doesn't die but permanent nerve damage is a fucker and happens in one second of ignorance.

So if people think you're being kind of absurd - why exactly would you expect a different response?

 

[Pachet]

This is interesting. I never knew gun play was a thing. (I should probably err on the side that EVERYTHING under the sun may be kinkified!)

Is this a loaded firearm we are talking about? If so, then I just cannot make that okay in my mind because guns, whatever they may do for you, are not toys. I'm sure it isn't anyone's intention to put Pachet down, but safety is so very important and the risks are dire. Has anyone seen someone shot before? I have and I assure you that it is very much the opposite of sexy.

Yes, loaded firearm. One in the chamber.

Knives aren't toys either tho.. doesn't knife play bother you? Asking sincerely

 

[Netzach]

And you know this, because?

I guess every person who's ever rape roleplayed has reported to you afterwards about how it made them feel?

No, but don't you think it MIGHT be in the papers if some sweet young thing's family got wind of why she offed herself and don't you think the boyfriend would be positively crucified?

Maybe one time in five or so?

 

[Netzach]

I don't really get it.

OK, find your bliss. It's your body.

Why do you need everyone to go "yeah me too and GO YOU! You ROCK!"

So 99 in 100 people think it's a suck ass idea for all the reasons you've already obviously thought about.

You're gonna do what you're gonna do. All I said was the one thing I thought was mitigating. And it's mitigating a level of risk I think makes no sense for an orgasm.

There are some ideas better on paper. I'd love to kidnap a hot guy drag him to Thailand and have him wake up a hot girl, but it's better on paper.

 

[Pachet]

You know who saws off their fingers? It's not novice woodworkers. It's the guys who absolutely know their shit inside and out and are pushing late into the night one night. So if your boyfriend is the Marine with the largest sack in the known universe, if he's the God of Gun Safety and Protocol, then I still throw out a big

whatthefuckever

there's nothing else we do where one slipped inch means you're painting the walls. Not even the most intensive bondage ever.

You're not going to find me arguing against more bondage safety worry. Maybe your bottom doesn't die but permanent nerve damage is a fucker and happens in one second of ignorance.

So if people think you're being kind of absurd - why exactly would you expect a different response?

I don't mind that people can't wrap their minds around it. I didn't expect them to. I do wish people would be a little more...civil? And engage more in debate and less in name calling, just because it would make for a more interesting thread. But I didn't expect you all to come in and congratulate me

I guess I was curious, too, if anyone else would speak up and say they play loaded too. I only know one other person who does - a S.W.A.T. officer. There's actually a "gunsex" tumblr (gunsex4u), so I wondered if it was becoming more common.

 

[Netzach]

I don't mind that people can't wrap their minds around it. I didn't expect them to. I do wish people would be a little more...civil? And engage more in debate and less in name calling, just because it would make for a more interesting thread. But I didn't expect you all to come in and congratulate me

I guess I was curious, too, if anyone else would speak up and say they play loaded too. I only know one other person who does - a S.W.A.T. officer. There's actually a "gunsex" tumblr (gunsex4u), so I wondered if it was becoming more common.

Meh, also, internet. You know?

"On paper" goes a long way for a lot of people. Maybe not far enough for you, but take everything with a grain of salt.

 

[Pachet]

I don't really get it.

OK, find your bliss. It's your body.

Thank you.

Why do you need everyone to go "yeah me too and GO YOU! You ROCK!"

I don't! See my last post.

There are some ideas better on paper. I'd love to kidnap a hot guy drag him to Thailand and have him wake up a hot girl, but it's better on paper.

I have better on paper fantasies too... most of us do I think.

 

[Pachet]

Meh, also, internet. You know?

"On paper" goes a long way for a lot of people. Maybe not far enough for you, but take everything with a grain of salt.

I know.. I don't think that because there's a gunsex blog, every person who views it is out there doing it. But it does show that there's interest.

I know it will forever remain taboo though. I'm pretty sure it's not going to show up in the next "Fifty Shades of Gray" novel

 

[JustADom]

Well emotions are getting high... I think that they're saying these things out of concern... and fear. Let's try to look at this more calmly.

The general rule is this: whatever that can go wrong, will go wrong.

Guns are a Serious Business. You wouldn't want to mess with them. If you're unlucky, then the gun will accidentally fire and it could kill you, you could die. And your partner will be going to jail for a long time. Think about that.

So let's all think about this more calmly... The long-term risk of this is probably far greater than some very short-lived excitement that you may feel.

 

[Etoile]

And then there's what happened to delia day.

 

[DVS]

Yes, loaded firearm. One in the chamber.

Knives aren't toys either tho.. doesn't knife play bother you? Asking sincerely

Even one in the chamber? What? You didn't say the safety was off?

I'll just play the devil's advocate for a second, here. Are guns and play two words that should really go together? But, as you've already said, it's your life and your partner's life. Do what you want. You play in a remote area? If either of you shot, it sounds like it will be a while before any EMS gets to you. And if it's a .9mm or larger, that would make a very large hole.

But many of the posters have missed something in your posts. No matter what they say, you are going to do as you wish. And if I were posting something that I was going to do, I don't think anybody would be able to change my opinion, either. I think things over for a long time, making sure to think out any possible scenario. Then, once I've made my mind up, nobody can change it.

As long as you've thought this through, playing out any possible scenario, I'm not going to talk to you about risk. If you've done your homework, you know the risks.

Now, as for other people into "gun play", you also check fetlife for a group into that fetish. It seems that if it's a fetish, there is a group started on fetlife.

 

[Ahlam]

Yes, loaded firearm. One in the chamber.

Knives aren't toys either tho.. doesn't knife play bother you? Asking sincerely

I don't really know much about knife play, but I am sure I would not be okay with someone threatening me with a knife or cutting me. I'd find that more than a little offensive. I'm just sensitive like that. When someone waves even a cane in my general direction, I cringe. In fact, if you frown at me right I might just cry a little bit into my hot cocoa. See? Silliness aside, I still believe messing with guns is no bueno. I wish you well Pachet and I hope no thrill-seekers nor bystanders will be harmed while you get your kicks.

 

[Pachet]

Even one in the chamber? What? You didn't say the safety was off?

lol. The Sig p226 doesn't have a safety. The Walther p38 (original, taken from a Wehrmacht soldier in WW2) does, but I honestly don't remember if it was on or off last time we played.

I'll just play the devil's advocate for a second, here. Are guns and play two words that should really go together? But, as you've already said, it's your life and your partner's life. Do what you want. You play in a remote area? If either of you shot, it sounds like it will be a while before any EMS gets to you. And if it's a .9mm or larger, that would make a very large hole.

Are knives and play two words that should go together? How about breath play? I find it interesting how guns are just so different to people. They're seen as 'on another level', much more dangerous.. when in truth, breath play probably kills way more people each year than gunplay.

But many of the posters have missed something in your posts. No matter what they say, you are going to do as you wish. And if I were posting something that I was going to do, I don't think anybody would be able to change my opinion, either. I think things over for a long time, making sure to think out any possible scenario. Then, once I've made my mind up, nobody can change it.

Yes, we're going to do what we want. There's nothing anyone on a messageboard can say to make me change my mind. I've been interested in gunplay for a long time, and I waited until now to do it, although I've had other offers and opportunities (tho not a lot, obviously, cos it's a rare fetish). I met someone I feel comfortable playing at this level with.. it's more than just that I'm comfortable though. It's...I don't want to be anywhere else, doing anything else, when I'm with him. Do you know what I mean?

As long as you've thought this through, playing out any possible scenario, I'm not going to talk to you about risk. If you've done your homework, you know the risks.

Now, as for other people into "gun play", you also check fetlife for a group into that fetish. It seems that if it's a fetish, there is a group started on fetlife.

Thanks for speaking to me like an intelligent adult (and not "mansplaining" about guns to me).

 

[Pachet]

I don't really know much about knife play, but I am sure I would not be okay with someone threatening me with a knife or cutting me. I'd find that more than a little offensive. I'm just sensitive like that. When someone waves even a cane in my general direction, I cringe. In fact, if you frown at me right I might just cry a little bit into my hot cocoa. See? Silliness aside, I still believe messing with guns is no bueno. I wish you well Pachet and I hope no thrill-seekers nor bystanders will be harmed while you get your kicks.

To each their own. Trust me, there's things I can't handle, too. I brought up knives though, because lots of people are into knife play, which IMO can be pretty dangerous (although I'm not downing it, I like knives too).

Thanks for the well wishes We play somewhere remote, where no innocent bystanders are around to get hurt.

 

[Netzach]

lol. Neither of the handguns we play with (Walther p38 and Sig p226) have safetys



Are knives and play two words that should go together? How about breath play? I find it interesting how guns are just so different to people. They're seen as 'on another level', much more dangerous.. when in truth, breath play probably kills way more people each year than gunplay.



Yes, we're going to do what we want. There's nothing anyone on a messageboard can say to make me change my mind. I've been interested in gunplay for a long time, and I waited until now to do it, although I've had other offers and opportunities (tho not a lot, obviously, cos it's a rare fetish). I met someone I feel comfortable playing at this level with.. it's more than just that I'm comfortable though. It's...I don't want to be anywhere else, doing anything else, when I'm with him. Do you know what I mean?



Thanks for speaking to me like an intelligent adult (and not "mansplaining" about guns to me).

Solo breath play is where most people get into trouble, not to say it doesn't happen with two people ever, but there's all kinds of debate about carotid compression and on and on....some people argue there IS no mitigation, I personally know enough people in martial arts to believe that there IS a safe way to choke out someone without extant cardiac/circulatory/pulmonary fuckery going on. I have no idea what that is or entails, so I'm not playing that way.

knife play - again it's POSSIBLE to kill someone, but you have to be particularly unlucky or stupid in your activities to do this.

It really shouldn't be confusing why other risks are not seen in the same category as gunshot risk. Also there are fewer known sexually related gunplay deaths, but general gun recreation gone awry is a real enough danger. And not everyone who fucks up with one is a drunken neophyte.

 

[Pachet]

Solo breath play is where most people get into trouble, not to say it doesn't happen with two people ever, but there's all kinds of debate about carotid compression and on and on....some people argue there IS no mitigation, I personally know enough people in martial arts to believe that there IS a safe way to choke out someone without extant cardiac/circulatory/pulmonary fuckery going on. I have no idea what that is or entails, so I'm not playing that way.

I've wondered about that for a long time (if it's possible to do breath play without the cardiac issues that are supposed to crop up). I do it anyway, but not to an extreme level. It's just too scary to me. We don't do it for more than a few seconds at a time, and I tell myself that's being careful enough. I have no idea if it's true.

knife play - again it's POSSIBLE to kill someone, but you have to be particularly unlucky or stupid in your activities to do this.

It really shouldn't be confusing why other risks are not seen in the same category as gunshot risk. Also there are fewer known sexually related gunplay deaths, but general gun recreation gone awry is a real enough danger. And not everyone who fucks up with one is a drunken neophyte.

Never used the word "confusing". Thanks. Just find people's attitudes towards guns interesting.

 

[JustADom]

So it doesn't make you nervous or anything like that? I mean it probably does obviously ... but you know. Weird.

 

[seela]

So it doesn't make you nervous or anything like that? I mean it probably does obviously ... but you know. Weird.

Nervous can be plenty hot. Just sayin'.

 

[JustADom]

Well I mean like, nervous of getting shot, and like, possibly dying? I tend to be super cautious of things... Like I see a knife on a table... and I imagine it falling off and getting stabbed on my or someone's foot or something like that.

 

[daystate]

Pachet you are one kinky girl. This thread has stirred up the proverbial shit storm. You are gonna do this because you love it and this is your thing so stay safe. Gunowners like myself who've had handling and safety drilled into us since we were young are gonna respond as such. I can't condone this practice- just stay safe. P.s put some ice on your nipples.