*chuckle* Instead of more coverage, you get less. Government in a nutshell...

[julybaby04]

When did Obama stamp his foot? I can find several RW blogs claiming that he did this but no video, pictures or real news sources.

...didn't mean it literally....just meant it as a child would do if mad.....

 

[zipman]

...didn't mean it literally....just meant it as a child would do if mad.....

That actually makes sense since your views are very childlike as well.

 

[julybaby04]

That actually makes sense since your views are very childlike as well.

Because I love this country and hate seeing it destroyed? Hmmm, if that is child-like than perhaps that is better than the foolishness you possess.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Universal Orlando plans to stop offering medical insurance to part-time employees beginning next year, a move the resort says has been forced by the federal government's health-care overhaul.

The giant theme-park resort, which generates more than $1 billion in annual revenue, began informing employees this month that it will offer health-insurance to part-timers "only until December 31, 2013."

The reason: Universal currently offers part-time workers a limited insurance plan that has low premiums but also caps the payout of benefits. For instance, Universal's plan costs about $18 a week for employee-only coverage but covers only a maximum of $5,000 a year toward hospital stays. There are similar caps for other services.

Those types of insurance plans — sometimes referred to as "mini-med" plans — will no longer be permitted under the federal Affordable Care Act. Beginning in 2014, the law will prohibit insurance plans that impose annual monetary limits on essential medical care such, as hospitalization, or on overall spending.

Universal is one of the largest employers in Central Florida, with approximately 17,000 employees. It has thousands of part-time workers, though Universal said only about 500 of them are enrolled in the current insurance plan, as many part-timers are covered by a parent's or spouse's insurance.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...-part-time-insurance-20130219,0,4887679.story

It is clearly much better for our bottom line to have no insurance than to have some insurance...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Because I love this country and hate seeing it destroyed? Hmmm, if that is child-like than perhaps that is better than the foolishness you possess.

They cannot defend, so they name-call, besmirch and belittle...

This is clearly not conforming to the mental image they created from the inception, that singular school of thought; with Interventionism (Socialism by degrees) we will provide better, cheaper, and create positive Federal Budget Revenues based upon the static models of the CBO...

One size/price fits all whether is is the huge Urban Hospital in New York or Chicago or the small, struggling rural clinic and physician in El Dorado, KS.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The childlike behavior was in adopting that myth as reality.

 

[mercury14]

Sir, the media you consume is left wing......and apparently you believe every single thing they have to say. You do not think for yourself. You never look at other options. If obama says it, or dem leaders say it, or the media shares it....it cannot be wrong...EVER!!!

You're making stupid assumptions again. Here's my car news/talk dial:


700 WLW - Cincinnati AM station, conservative

MSNBC - liberal talk, though I listen during Morning Joe where the main guy is a moderate conservative

BBC

CNN - I rarely tune in because they suck

Fox News

POTUS - Sirius XM channel, moderate and information-based

Patriot channel - Glenn Beck (LOL), Hannity, Mike Church


What I do is listen to all off the perspectives on the issues and make up my own mind. While I'm a liberal, you don't see me just parroting Chris Matthews. You see me being very focused on data and facts - that's why I'm able to give you information about the workings of health care reform. Chris Matthews is going to talk about how he (mostly) likes it, but he's never going to give all that much information about it. The things I'm talking to you about are my ideas that come from my own research into the topic.

 

[mercury14]

Yes, $3k would be great to have each year.........

But, that is taxpayer money. We are doing just fine on our own, paying what we can afford, and not relying on the government for any of it.

We will lose the very good coverage we have for an "equal" "mediocre" "everyone is the same" mentality to healthcare.

Again....just leave those of us who are happy with what we have ALONE.....and let those who need or want coverage to participate in some government mandated system.

First you said Obamacare was going to financially hurt you, now you're saying it's going to save you over $3k per year but that's a bad thing? Huh?

You're saying that for $6,800 per year you're getting "very good coverage" for a family of six? And that's not with any employer contribution, just an individual plan? Very good coverage? You're either confused or holy fuck you're paying nothing. Can you tell me who your insurance company is?

 

[Busybody]

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STFU, NIGGER CURRY

 

[mercury14]

Yes, $3k would be great to have each year.........

But, that is taxpayer money.

So you don't use things like roads, schools, police, air traffic controllers, hospitals, or sewers because they're paid for with taxpayer money?

 

[Busybody]

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STFU, NIGGER CURRY

 

[julybaby04]

First you said Obamacare was going to financially hurt you, now you're saying it's going to save you over $3k per year but that's a bad thing? Huh?

You're saying that for $6,800 per year you're getting "very good coverage" for a family of six? And that's not with any employer contribution, just an individual plan? Very good coverage? You're either confused or holy fuck you're paying nothing. Can you tell me who your insurance company is?

Obamacare will hurt me financially if I have to pay more for healthcare...which obviously I will....according to the numbers being shared here.

If the "cheapest" obamacare is going to be around 13K....and we get 3K "credit" or whatever they want to call it....it is still about 2,200 more than I will have to come up with. THAT is costing me money, when my health insurance is perfect for me now.

Again, back to the main point.....why not give those who have NONE the MANDATE to buy some on their own...through the government? I dont NEED or WANT any insurance the government is offering by way of "helping" me....somehow.

Also, that 3K is TAXPAYER money....that if obamacare did not exist.....the TAXPAYERS would not have to spend on me. The taxpayer is paying more, I personally will be paying more and the coverage will not be as good. This is a complete mess and a ridiculous was to govern a FREE nation. (of course, obama, is making sure that we are moving, rapidly, away from that).

As far as my coverage, you need not worry about it. We are very happy with what we have. Just because you are unable to secure good rates, there is no reason to hate on me.

 

[zipman]

They cannot defend, so they name-call, besmirch and belittle...

This is clearly not conforming to the mental image they created from the inception, that singular school of thought; with Interventionism (Socialism by degrees) we will provide better, cheaper, and create positive Federal Budget Revenues based upon the static models of the CBO...

One size/price fits all whether is is the huge Urban Hospital in New York or Chicago or the small, struggling rural clinic and physician in El Dorado, KS.

When some RWCJ idiot is talking about losing EVERY SINGLE FREEDOM in 5 to 10 years, then yes, they deserve name-calling and belittling.

But careful A_J, I don't want those mean socialists to bully you.

 

[julybaby04]

You're making stupid assumptions again. Here's my car news/talk dial:


700 WLW - Cincinnati AM station, conservative

MSNBC - liberal talk, though I listen during Morning Joe where the main guy is a moderate conservative

BBC

CNN - I rarely tune in because they suck

Fox News

POTUS - Sirius XM channel, moderate and information-based

Patriot channel - Glenn Beck (LOL), Hannity, Mike Church


What I do is listen to all off the perspectives on the issues and make up my own mind. While I'm a liberal, you don't see me just parroting Chris Matthews. You see me being very focused on data and facts - that's why I'm able to give you information about the workings of health care reform. Chris Matthews is going to talk about how he (mostly) likes it, but he's never going to give all that much information about it. The things I'm talking to you about are my ideas that come from my own research into the topic.

I am sure you enjoy the channels you tune in to, or obviously, you would not do it.

The difference in you and I is that I do not agree AT ALL with pretty much anything the liberal agenda pushes, so therefore, I would not waste my time listening to something that would only tend to upset me.

I believe in black and whites....rights and wrongs. I do not believe in "anything goes". I will NEVER believe in that, no matter how the "moral compass" of this country changes. I have no desire to listen to people who push that agenda.

I do not apologize for my views nor my faith. People have things that matter to them, obviously, and spend their time, their day, pursing or in support of those things. People (at least right now) are free to do that in this country.

I have things that are very important to me as well......some are things in this world, but most are things that matter in eternity. I truly have no interest in "learning" about things which directly oppose that which I believe to be true and matters to me and more importantly, to God.

I am sure you will have a major problem with my view....call me stupid, ignorant, etc, whatever you wish. I am very confident in my views and beliefs and if it bothers you or others that I do not worship "king" obama as many here do, then so be it.

 

[Busybody]

When some RWCJ idiot is talking about losing EVERY SINGLE FREEDOM in 5 to 10 years, then yes, they deserve name-calling and belittling.

But careful A_J, I don't want those mean socialists to bully you.

WhoSane Obama, DA COLORED, has turned normal "people".....INSANE

MAGIC!

 

[zipman]

I am sure you enjoy the channels you tune in to, or obviously, you would not do it.

The difference in you and I is that I do not agree AT ALL with pretty much anything the liberal agenda pushes, so therefore, I would not waste my time listening to something that would only tend to upset me.

I believe in black and whites....rights and wrongs. I do not believe in "anything goes". I will NEVER believe in that, no matter how the "moral compass" of this country changes. I have no desire to listen to people who push that agenda.

I do not apologize for my views nor my faith. People have things that matter to them, obviously, and spend their time, their day, pursing or in support of those things. People (at least right now) are free to do that in this country.

I have things that are very important to me as well......some are things in this world, but most are things that matter in eternity. I truly have no interest in "learning" about things which directly oppose that which I believe to be true and matters to me and more importantly, to God.

I am sure you will have a major problem with my view....call me stupid, ignorant, etc, whatever you wish. I am very confident in my views and beliefs and if it bothers you or others that I do not worship "king" obama as many here do, then so be it.

Wow. Just Wow.

 

[Sean]

Wow. Just Wow.

And that, ladies and gennelmen, is why I don't bother trying to argue with it, I just call it a retard.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I am sure you enjoy the channels you tune in to, or obviously, you would not do it.

The difference in you and I is that I do not agree AT ALL with pretty much anything the liberal agenda pushes, so therefore, I would not waste my time listening to something that would only tend to upset me.

I believe in black and whites....rights and wrongs. I do not believe in "anything goes". I will NEVER believe in that, no matter how the "moral compass" of this country changes. I have no desire to listen to people who push that agenda.

I do not apologize for my views nor my faith. People have things that matter to them, obviously, and spend their time, their day, pursing or in support of those things. People (at least right now) are free to do that in this country.

I have things that are very important to me as well......some are things in this world, but most are things that matter in eternity. I truly have no interest in "learning" about things which directly oppose that which I believe to be true and matters to me and more importantly, to God.

I am sure you will have a major problem with my view....call me stupid, ignorant, etc, whatever you wish. I am very confident in my views and beliefs and if it bothers you or others that I do not worship "king" obama as many here do, then so be it.

Why SHOULD you waste your beautiful mind on something like that?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Why SHOULD you waste your beautiful mind on something like that?

A Beautiful Mind

Claim: Former First Lady Barbara Bush said of the war in Iraq: "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"

Status: True.

Origins: While niggling memories of the title of the film that took Best Picture honors in the 2002 Academy Awards might leave some to Barbara Bush question the veracity of the purported Barbara Bush "beautiful mind" quote, the utterance was indeed the real thing. The former First Lady made this remark on national television shortly before the commencement of the invasion of Iraq.

The comment arose during a Good Morning America interview with the couple who were formerly President and First Lady, George H.W. Bush and Barbara Bush. The interview was conducted by Diane Sawyer in Houston scant hours before the couple's son, President George W. Bush, delivered a televised ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to step down from power and leave Iraq or face U.S.-led military action. The chat with the senior Bushes aired the following morning, 18 March
2003.

The remark in question occurred early in the three-way conversation, following a line of query directed at Mrs. Bush regarding whether she found herself studying her son for verbal or visual signs of how well he was holding up under the pressure. (Sawyer: "As a mother, do you watch for strain on him?") Mrs. Bush replied that she looked for such indications in all five of her children and remarked on the family's propensity for having hair that turns white earlier than is the norm. An additional query about whether the senior Bushes, who do not normally watch a great deal of television, found themselves watching more TV during this period than was their usual custom fetched from Mrs. Bush the quote that has since earned a measure of notoriety:

I watch none. He [former President Bush] sits and listens and I read books, because I know perfectly well that, don't take offense, that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about the news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer.

Read within the context of the full interview, it is a tiny bit more clear that Mrs. Bush's "beautiful mind" statement referred to her desire not to become mesmerized by the pre-war media speculation of what such an invasion would mean, what sorts of weaponry and defenses U.S. troops might well be walking into, which troops would be committed and when they'd be deployed, how long the war would last, and how high the body count might be. Prior to the commencement of hostilities, such matters were the subject of endless supposition by various news pundits. While maybe not "90 percent" of what was filling the air waves was guesswork rather than hard news, Mrs. Bush's point that news of that moment was much more about what could or might happen rather than what was happening was valid. Her comment was not meant as a dismissal of actual deaths or suffering (troops had not yet been engaged at the time of her remark), but of news coverage that amounted to one expert after another making predictions about what they saw as likely to occur.

 

[zipman]

And that, ladies and gennelmen, is why I don't bother trying to argue with it, I just call it a retard.

Oh I don't argue with it. I just poke fun at it. Like A_J and Vetteman. They aren't worthy of even engaging in a discussion.

But I've never seen anyone just come out and admit that they don't care what the truth is and would rather stick with what they believe.

That kind of willful ignorance is scary.

 

[Lorilei]

You are a Obama fan....plain and simple.

I believe that sums it up completely. You will never truly look at Obama and what he is doing in any other way than positive....no matter what he does. THIS is the mantra by which all dems live by. It truly matters not what "our guy" does....just shut up, sit down, and support.....ALWAYS!!

I have no problem with you not respecting me as you only know me by these words...and apparently you truly care not to read them and even try to understand a differing point of view.

My lack of respect for you comes from your unwillingness to see a differing point of view at all.

I have mentioned before....when Obama was elected the first time (with his hope and change thing), even though I did not vote for him, I was proud of this country for "growing up" enough to give everyone a chance at life...not just certain people. I did not agree with "hope and change" and therefore didn't vote for him. If he had had a good first 4 years, and things were better in this country, I would have supported him in term #2....regardless of my conservative leanings.

However, he is destroying this country at a very fast pace. Bush had his own problems......but these last 4 years and now this first year of term 2 are all Obama's. He is not man enough to EVER admit that he has made bad judgement calls. He takes responsibility for NOTHING and blames everyone else for failings.

Obama is not a leader.....he is a child who pitches a fit if he does not get his own way....in essence he "crosses those arms across the body, gets a "mad" face, and stomps his foot". He "doubles-down" when he gets any kind of resistance. He is not a leader. He is just rather embarrassing as the leader of the free world.

I know you will never see this and some, probably have some unkind remarks or cussing, but as I have also said before, it does not matter. He is the potus and there is, sadly, nothing that can be done about that.

I do hope that when he really tanks this country, through obamacare, loss of freedoms, taxing to death...etc, that you will be man enough to admit that he was not a good president instead of making excuses for him.

In the meantime, those of us who could not disagree more, are doing whatever we can now, to ensure at least our own families will be ok, to best of our abilities....in spite of obama and the demo leadership. If you want specifics....that does include making sure the bulk of the money we have is no where near any government institution and learning to live with much less so that when we all have to, we will be able to.

(by the way, I stand by everything I have said. Obamacare is a mess and will not help those people thought it would. It is nothing more than a tax and a way for the government to be able to control a VERY large portion of the economy.....through forcing free US citizens to buy something they may not want.

.......freedom use to be free...... now it is a tax!

Sir, the media you consume is left wing......and apparently you believe every single thing they have to say. You do not think for yourself. You never look at other options.[/B] If obama says it, or dem leaders say it, or the media shares it....it cannot be wrong...EVER!!!

Perhaps we are all sheep....but I would rather be in the group that doesn't worship a man trying to destroy the country.

The more you try and tell me how you do not respect me, the less I care. You are being fed a bunch of lies....and you are perfectly fine with it.

Again...let's just wait and see where we are 5 or 10 years down the road as every single freedom is gone .....every person is the same......no one can have more than the other (except the dems in power, of course)......and let's watch the crumbling of the citizens of this country as there is no longer a reason to try to be better....try to succeed......try to be the greatest nation on earth!!

I am sure you enjoy the channels you tune in to, or obviously, you would not do it.

The difference in you and I is that I do not agree AT ALL with pretty much anything the liberal agenda pushes, so therefore, I would not waste my time listening to something that would only tend to upset me.

I believe in black and whites....rights and wrongs. I do not believe in "anything goes". I will NEVER believe in that, no matter how the "moral compass" of this country changes. I have no desire to listen to people who push that agenda.

I do not apologize for my views nor my faith. People have things that matter to them, obviously, and spend their time, their day, pursing or in support of those things. People (at least right now) are free to do that in this country.

I have things that are very important to me as well......some are things in this world, but most are things that matter in eternity. I truly have no interest in "learning" about things which directly oppose that which I believe to be true and matters to me and more importantly, to God.

I am sure you will have a major problem with my view....call me stupid, ignorant, etc, whatever you wish. I am very confident in my views and beliefs and if it bothers you or others that I do not worship "king" obama as many here do, then so be it.

Quoted and bolded for the humor factor. And she wonders why people call her a hypocrite.

 

[julybaby04]

Quoted and bolded for the humor factor. And she wonders why people call her a hypocrite.[/

Call me what you will. If liberals were not so bent on wanting everyone to accept everything....even if it goes against things that are morally against one's beliefs, then perhaps conservatives would be more interested in learning and sharing ideas.

Sadly, that is not the case. For liberals, all views are fine except conservative. I was only stating, as many share as well, that hearing and learning about the other side is not something most do.

Almost everyone picks their side and supports it...no matter what the other side says. This is why the county is partisan. Both sides think they are right.

 

[mercury14]

Quoted and bolded for the humor factor. And she wonders why people call her a hypocrite.[/

Call me what you will. If liberals were not so bent on wanting everyone to accept everything....even if it goes against things that are morally against one's beliefs, then perhaps conservatives would be more interested in learning and sharing ideas.

So you're saying you choose to be closed-minded and "believe" rather than think. And if that's a bad thing, well you blame other people for your choice to be like that.

 

[Lorilei]

So you're saying you choose to be closed-minded and "believe" rather than think. And if that's a bad thing, well you blame other people for your choice to be like that.

And also accuses others of doing the same thing, and says that they don't deserve respect because of it.

 

[mercury14]

Obamacare will hurt me financially if I have to pay more for healthcare...which obviously I will....according to the numbers being shared here.

If the "cheapest" obamacare is going to be around 13K....and we get 3K "credit" or whatever they want to call it....it is still about 2,200 more than I will have to come up with. THAT is costing me money, when my health insurance is perfect for me now.

Okay where do I start with this shit sandwich... You're not "getting Obamacare". If you want to buy an individual plan like you are now, there's nothing stopping you. Your cost isn't going to jump up to 13k. Nothing will change for your family.

But you get a choice! Keep what you have now or shop around at an exchange and use your subsidy. You can compare what you have to the exchange plan figure and go with whatever one looks best for you.

Again, back to the main point.....why not give those who have NONE the MANDATE to buy some on their own...through the government? I dont NEED or WANT any insurance the government is offering by way of "helping" me....somehow.

Because without the mandate insurance costs would go through the roof. The entire plan wouldn't work without incurring a large deficit and causing private insurance rates on everyone to rise tremendously.

Also, that 3K is TAXPAYER money....that if obamacare did not exist.....the TAXPAYERS would not have to spend on me. The taxpayer is paying more, I personally will be paying more and the coverage will not be as good. This is a complete mess and a ridiculous was to govern a FREE nation. (of course, obama, is making sure that we are moving, rapidly, away from that).

Taxpayers are spending money on you no matter what. I'm pretty sure you're not paying private school tuition for all four of your kids and that you don't pay for a private fire department. And you will not be paying more because the primary funding for Obamacare is through a .9% Medicare tax increase that's way above your pay grade. No matter how you slice it, you're going to pay less under Obamacare. You don't want to believe that so you lie to yourself and deny reality.

As far as my coverage, you need not worry about it. We are very happy with what we have. Just because you are unable to secure good rates, there is no reason to hate on me.

Now you're making up things about my insurance rates? Jesus doesn't like it when you lie you know. You keep saying you're calm and collected but snapping out at me like this says otherwise.