A good (long) read on gun control.

[PoppingTom]

This is factually inaccurate.

If guns were only made for killing, and there are 300m guns in the US, we wouldn't have a population left.

That is, unless they're REALLY ineffective at killing, at which case, it's not an issue, right?

Guns are made for killing. No matter what people do with it in the end.

That's the difference to knives. They're made for cutting. You can use them for killing, right, but their intent is cutting, and most people buy it for nothing else and never do anything else with that.

If the intent of guns in the US were only sports, I think nobody would complain about. The discussiona are because it isn't

 

[richard_daily]

Guns are made for killing. No matter what people do with it in the end.

No, that's not factually accurate. Not even close.

If the intent of guns in the US were only sports, I think nobody would complain about. The discussiona are because it isn't

People are scared of what they don't know and what they don't understand. You're a perfect example of this.

 

[PoppingTom]

No, that's not factually accurate. Not even close.

Your No is the one of a truculent child.

People are scared of what they don't know and what they don't understand. You're a perfect example of this.

Scared? Of what?

I'm not scared. It's not my problem that you can't explain your viewpoint.

 

[richard_daily]

Your No is the one of a truculent child.



Scared? Of what?

I'm not scared. It's not my problem that you can't explain your viewpoint.

The vast majority of guns aren't made, nor are used, for killing people.

That's a fact.

There are 300,000,000 guns in the US, by your own estimation, however, there are not 300,000,000 deaths from them.

If they were all used as you claim they were "intended" then there would be no people left in this country.

Somewhere in your argument, there is a logic failure. I'll leave you to try to figure out where it lies.

 

[LiFeNdEaTh]

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[PoppingTom]

The vast majority of guns aren't made, nor are used, for killing people.

I never said they were all used to kill people. But without a doubt they're made - which means designed and aligned at the function - for killing.

No counter-proof from you, so far.

If they were all used as you claim they were "intended" then there would be no people left in this country.

Maybe the word "intent" is wrong.

But you forgot: Whenever they were used, and "used" is a bit more than "take it in your hand and be a threat", they killed. And all the discussions are about killing, about nothing else.

 

[PoppingTom]

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[imalickin]

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I use mine to hunt nauga's.

 

[richard_daily]

I never said they were all used to kill people. But without a doubt they're made - which means designed and aligned at the function - for killing.

No counter-proof from you, so far.

There isn't any proof required, any more than I need to "prove" the existence of a fake god.

You made the asinine statement. Many people have indicated that most guns are not intended nor ever used for anything other than target shooting.

Are you an expert on guns of some sort? What are your qualifications to determine what they are "designed" for?

Are you an engineer for Springfield?

Please let me know.

Maybe the word "intent" is wrong.

But you forgot: Whenever they were used, and "used" is a bit more than "take it in your hand and be a threat", they killed. And all the discussions are about killing, about nothing else.

I don't have any clue what you mean here. Please clear up your message, because it's really confusing.

 

[BotanyBoy]

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I bet you could count all the civilians who own mini guns on one hand and they would have to have some special reason to own one like Blackwater.

I fucking love how the left will try and try and try to make it sound like you can go down and buy mil spec hardware like a gallon of milk or some shit....."Assault weapons!!" lol don't even know wtf they are talking about or how retarded they sound saying that kind of shit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I never said they were all used to kill people. But without a doubt they're made - which means designed and aligned at the function - for killing.

Nice opinion....full of shit and smell's just like everyone else's.

 

[PoppingTom]

Nice opinion....full of shit and smell's just like everyone else's.

Nice argument...full of shit and smell's just like everyone else's.

 

[PoppingTom]

Are you an expert on guns of some sort? What are your qualifications to determine what they are "designed" for?

Are you an engineer for Springfield?

Babble, babble.....but still no counter-proof from you, so far.

I don't have any clue what you mean here. Please clear up your message, because it's really confusing.

I don't have any clue what you don't understand.

 

[richard_daily]

Babble, babble.....but still no counter-proof from you, so far.

Counter proof to what? You made a claim that was not factual merited in any way, shape, or form.

What qualifies you to make that statement?

How do you know what guns are designed to do?

The stats and reality differ from your opinion.

If guns were "designed" only to kill, then why are they almost never used that way? in the US, the vast majority of the time, a gun never kills anyone, and is used for recreational purposes.

Prove me wrong.

 

[PoppingTom]

If guns were "designed" only to kill, then why are they almost never used that way? in the US, the vast majority of the time, a gun never kills anyone, and is used for recreational purposes.

Prove me wrong.

Why?

If you believe army and war is just recreation - have fun.

But if you believe atom bombs are not made for killing, but for recreation and fun - please let the Iran ayatollahs have their fun and recreation, too.

 

[richard_daily]

Why?

If you believe army and war is just recreation - have fun.

But if you believe atom bombs are not made for killing, but for recreation and fun - please let the Iran ayatollahs have their fun and recreation, too.

You're all over the place with your argument, and you have yet to back up your absurd claim that all guns are made with the sole intent of killing people.

At this point, your floundering has proven to me that your argument doesn't have any merit.

Take care.

 

[Weird Harold]

You've got 4 of them...and speak for 300m others? How can you do that?

I don't need to speak for 300 million others, since the existence of my three that were on made or purchased to kill humans disproves your absolute statement that all 300 million US guns were made for the express purpose of killing.

(1) Hunting IS killing. Don't try to water it down in a sentimental dash.

Unlike you, I make a distinction between killing humans and killing animals. As much as PETA would like to ban hunting, I think it has less chance of eliminating American's right to self defense.

I strongly doubt 300m weapons in the US are bought for sports use.

You are the only one asserting that they might be. You seem to have trouble seeing the difference between three-quarters and "all." Perhaps you need to brush up on your math skills?

 

[PoppingTom]

I don't need to speak for 300 million others, since the existence of my three that were on made or purchased to kill humans disproves your absolute statement that all 300 million US guns were made for the express purpose of killing.

It's you who made my statement that absolute.

I said that guns are made for killing, except sports weapons. Never said that all 300m were guns like that.

It's you who said that your sports gun doesn't differ from an ordinary gun. That's why I said, guns are made for killing, no matter what way you use them in the end.

It's you who made a difference in killing humans and killing animals, while there is none. Is killing. Period. I'm not talking about murder, I talk about killing.

 

[PoppingTom]

....you have yet to back up your absurd claim ...

Again: why?

Believe in your recreation by shooting.

I don't have any claim to win your nitpick game.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I said that guns are made for killing, except sports weapons. Never said that all 300m were guns like that.

HAHAHAA tell me...how could sporting wepons not still be used as a weapon, from baseball bats and archery to 3gun AR's? Moron...

It's you who said that your sports gun doesn't differ from an ordinary gun. That's why I said, guns are made for killing, no matter what way you use them in the end.

It's you who made a difference in killing humans and killing animals, while there is none. Is killing. Period. I'm not talking about murder, I talk about killing.

In that case then so is every bat, club, and every other blunt/sharp object ever made, no matter what way you use them in the end or how you cut it they were weapons first and foremost, designed to kill.

 

[PoppingTom]

In that case then so is every bat, club, and sharp object ever made, no matter what way you use them in the end or how you cut it they were weapons first and foremost designed to kill.

No.

A knife is designed to cut. A bat is designed for baseball. A sports weapon is designed to target shoot with fewer danger of killing anybody or anything by misuse. Killing is the secondary, not intended use (or misuse) for it.

But a gun is made for killing, like a knife is made for cutting.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No.

A knife is designed to cut. A bat is designed for baseball. A sports weapon is designed to target shoot with fewer danger of killing anybody or anything by misuse. Killing is the secondary, not intended use (or misuse) for it.

But a gun is made for killing, like a knife is made for cutting.

Negative, sharp/blunt objects were the first weapons man kind developed, used to hunt an defend themselves with since pre-historic times. More human beings have died at the end of a sharp/pointy object or under the crushing blow of a blunt one than any other weapons type out there.

So they are very much made for killing as they were originally designed as such....just so happens we found other uses for them from the pragmatic and sporting to acts of evil, just like guns.

Your argument fails horribly, try again.

 

[Weird Harold]

Guns are made for killing. No matter what people do with it in the end.

It's you who made my statement that absolute.

I'm terrible sorry. How could I possible have mistaken the conditional statement above for an absolute.

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[Silverlily]

Just popping in to tell Weird Harold he's still one of my favorite Litsters. Good to see you around, you old fart.

 

[Weird Harold]

Just popping in to tell Weird Harold he's still one of my favorite Litsters. Good to see you around, you old fart.

TYVM