Should we have a Safe Sex contest?

[electric1]

As long as we're throwing around new ideas for theme contests, here's one I'd like to float: a contest for the hottest story using safe sex.

I've heard many authors here say it would be too challenging to make condom-use sexy, so they depict irresponsible behavior and expect the reader to remember it's just a fantasy. But I think many writers would be up to the challenge of making condom-use fantasy-worthy, and a contest on this would be more exciting, I think, than something as vaguely defined as Summer Loving.

What do you think?

 

[electric1]

Woo-hoo! 100% agree with me!!

 

[TxRad]

We have safe sex stories in all the contests. They are called non-erotic. Some have even won a contest or two.

 

[Handley_Page]

We have safe sex stories in all the contests. They are called non-erotic. Some have even won a contest or two.

I ain't so sure about that, Tx.
I'm sure some inventive fucker could come up with a suitable text.

 

[sr71plt]

Is as good a contest idea as any other, especially for short-term use. A basic problem with the current contests might be that they are permanent themes.

 

[JackLuis]

Condoms are easy to fit in a story, so that takes care of men, But what about safe Cunny?

Given the 'enthusiasm' with which pussy is eaten in most stories, how do you make that safe? Saran wrap?

 

[DeeZire]

First, you'd have to define the parameters of safe sex, as the post above mentions. Are hand jobs safe sex? Boob fucking? The list goes on.

 

[sr71plt]

First, you'd have to define the parameters of safe sex, as the post above mentions. Are hand jobs safe sex? Boob fucking? The list goes on.

Wouldn't the looseness of the definition be what would give the author creative space to play with?

 

[Stella_Omega]

First, you'd have to define the parameters of safe sex, as the post above mentions. Are hand jobs safe sex? Boob fucking? The list goes on.

yes, and yes.

There's no need to define the parameters of what IS safe sex, only the parameters of what ISN'T safe sex, which is any activity that exchanges fluids. That leaves a whole lot of available activities! Toys, hands feet, dry humping, J/O sessions...

The trick is to intimate that those things are *safe sex*, and to make them erotic for the reader.

A woman at our munch last night said that, to her, sex was only sex if someone could get pregnant. I was really pleased to see that everyone else disagreed with her.

 

[DeeZire]

yes, and yes.

There's no need to define the parameters of what IS safe sex, only the parameters of what ISN'T safe sex, which is any activity that exchanges fluids....

Thank you Stella. I come here to gain knowledge and prove that I am an idiot. I am usually successful on both counts.

 

[lovecraft68]

The thing with that is it would be "all for the writers" because I would hazard to say it would not go over that well with the readers.

Look at the group category. Back in the day when I attended swinger parties condoms were everywhere! I remember being involved in several situations where we would walk around with them held to our arms with elastics (there was no where else to put them)

But that is reality, write a story like that people are bummed they're using them.

I can just see the flaming in an an incest story when mom tells her son to wrap it up.

Erotica is first and foremost escapism. We've had a ton of threads discussing porn tropes vs. reality and people want to read about fun not practicality.

So my vote would be no, it would tank.

 

[NaokoSmith]

I say yes! I run a review site where I only review stories that have safe sex and come across a lot of writers who insist on it. I admire gay male writers for making it almost mandatory in their stories and including it in inventive and fun ways. Living in an area of the world blighted by poverty and high teenage conception rates, the two of which are interconnected in complicated ways, I think there is a definite place for more erotica promoting safe sex. Much better education for teens cruising the internet than sex education lessons teaching them to put a condom on a banana. (Poor bananas.)

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes

Get those condoms on, you naughty bananas.

 

[NaokoSmith]

Werewolf safe sex sells - strange but true

Oh and PS, despairing of finding a werewolf story to review with safe sex in it, I finally wrote one. It has sold 60 copies on Amazon in the last 6 days (I find that a bit weird actually!), gone to 1200 plus downloads on Smashwords with three 5 star reviews and although it has strange ratings on this site, I have yet to get a comment complaining that the condom spoilt the story.
xxx

 

[lovecraft68]

I say yes! I run a review site where I only review stories that have safe sex and come across a lot of writers who insist on it. I admire gay male writers for making it almost mandatory in their stories and including it in inventive and fun ways. Living in an area of the world blighted by poverty and high teenage conception rates, the two of which are interconnected in complicated ways, I think there is a definite place for more erotica promoting safe sex. Much better education for teens cruising the internet than sex education lessons teaching them to put a condom on a banana. (Poor bananas.)

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes

Get those condoms on, you naughty bananas.

I would think safe sex education should be taught at home and not the responsibility of porn stars or erotica authors.

If a teen comes to a site like this to be "educated" and wants to emulate what they read here condoms might be the least of their worries

 

[PennLady]

Oh and PS, despairing of finding a werewolf story to review with safe sex in it, I finally wrote one. It has sold 60 copies on Amazon in the last 6 days (I find that a bit weird actually!), gone to 1200 plus downloads on Smashwords with three 5 star reviews and although it has strange ratings on this site, I have yet to get a comment complaining that the condom spoilt the story.
xxx

In the various nonhuman stories I have read, safe sex is dealt with, but in the following -- fantasy -- ways, usually:

* the NHmale can mentally/physically control whether he releases sperm
* the NHfemale can mentally/physically control whether or not she'll get impregnated
* the rules of the world state that NH males can not impregnate human women
* said rules state the NH females can't get pregnant by human men
* vampires can't get pregnant at all, or impregnate anyone (more logical, really)
* the NH person's physiology is resistant/impervious to human disease, and NH diseases cannot be transmitted to a human

I have, though, read nonhuman stories where the male nonhumans used condoms. Didn't bother me.

And congrats.

I would think safe sex education should be taught at home and not the responsibility of porn stars or erotica authors.

If a teen comes to a site like this to be "educated" and wants to emulate what they read here condoms might be the least of their worries

Yes, but teens do come to sites like this, and magazines, and all of that because they are not being taught at home. If you don't want to read a safe sex story -- i.e., a story involving the use of condoms, diaphragms, whatever -- then don't. If you stumble upon that and it ruins the story for you, well, that's life.

 

[sr71plt]

In the various nonhuman stories I have read, safe sex is dealt with, but in the following -- fantasy -- ways, usually:

* the NHmale can mentally/physically control whether he releases sperm
* the NHfemale can mentally/physically control whether or not she'll get impregnated
* the rules of the world state that NH males can not impregnate human women
* said rules state the NH females can't get pregnant by human men
* vampires can't get pregnant at all, or impregnate anyone (more logical, really)
* the NH person's physiology is resistant/impervious to human disease, and NH diseases cannot be transmitted to a human

I have, though, read nonhuman stories where the male nonhumans used condoms. Didn't bother me.

I think, when it's so easy for a non-human situation to eleminate the dangers as it wants, that introducing condoms to the situation is just a tad too much anal retentiveness for erotica.

 

[sr71plt]

Yes, but teens do come to sites like this, and magazines, and all of that because they are not being taught at home. If you don't want to read a safe sex story -- i.e., a story involving the use of condoms, diaphragms, whatever -- then don't. If you stumble upon that and it ruins the story for you, well, that's life.

The site clearly states they aren't permitted to read here. As an author I won't take responsibility such as this off the shoulders of those who won't act responsibly for themselves.

In turn, I won't post irresponsible stories on age-open Web sites.

 

[lovecraft68]

In the various nonhuman stories I have read, safe sex is dealt with, but in the following -- fantasy -- ways, usually:

* the NHmale can mentally/physically control whether he releases sperm
* the NHfemale can mentally/physically control whether or not she'll get impregnated
* the rules of the world state that NH males can not impregnate human women
* said rules state the NH females can't get pregnant by human men
* vampires can't get pregnant at all, or impregnate anyone (more logical, really)
* the NH person's physiology is resistant/impervious to human disease, and NH diseases cannot be transmitted to a human

I have, though, read nonhuman stories where the male nonhumans used condoms. Didn't bother me.

And congrats.



Yes, but teens do come to sites like this, and magazines, and all of that because they are not being taught at home. If you don't want to read a safe sex story -- i.e., a story involving the use of condoms, diaphragms, whatever -- then don't. If you stumble upon that and it ruins the story for you, well, that's life.

There's condoms in high schools and colleges and its being taught to kids in school at younger and younger ages.

Even if the parents are still living in the dark ages and can't have "the talk" we are far from the age of ignorance.

All kidding aside if teens are coming here its not for education its to read dirty stories and same goes for porn.

Safe sex is being thrown at them from every angle and its getting a little ridiculous to start pointing at porn as something that teaches them to be irresponsible.

and if what they're getting for education isn't enough then the ultimate solution would be a....

Safe sex APP! Hell as long as they can read about it on their phone its all good!

 

[PennLady]

I think, when it's so easy for a non-human situation to eleminate the dangers as it wants, that introducing condoms to the situation is just a tad too much anal retentiveness for erotica.

I do think it's unnecessary, but speaking just for me, it doesn't bother me. That said, I don't think I've ever done that in any of my nonhuman stories. I don't think I've ever really set the rules out, in fact, and so I guess the reader fills in whatever they like.

The site clearly states they aren't permitted to read here. As an author I won't take responsibility such as this off the shoulders of those who won't act responsibly for themselves.

In turn, I won't post irresponsible stories on age-open Web sites.

And that's fine, and the way it should be. I think I implied something I didn't mean to. I do not mean that we should write only responsible stories on the off-chance someone underage would read it. What I was getting at was kind of on a tangent, just saying that a lot of kids don't get a sex talk at home, safe or anything else.

 

[sr71plt]

What I was getting at was kind of on a tangent, just saying that a lot of kids don't get a sex talk at home, safe or anything else.

Which is not a responsibility that I feel is mine to shoulder. I'll bet they get a whole lot more education and support--and are a lot more savvy about it on the average now--than my generation was. And if they don't get it, they just aren't paying attention--which gets us around to Darwin.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I think there are strong signs that we can influence people's sex lives. Look at the sudden expansion of incest wanters.

Look at 50 Shades.

Monkey see, monkey do. Empathic response is a big part of human sexuality.

it's totally possible --BUT NOT ANY SORT OF DUTY-- to add basic practices into our stories as a matter of course without making any big thing about it. Sure people will bitch bout it at first-- but they bitch about everything anyway. If you want to, you can.

Personally, I cannot write buttfucking in a contemporary setting without condoms. Condoms, and lube. Lots of lube for teh butt, fingering it in is a big part of the sexiness of buttfucking, just add a rubber into the process. If I'm writing women fucking women, they roll condoms over their strapons. Makes the damn things easier anyway, like a foreskin.

Again the fact that it's possible and may have some influence on some readers does not mean I think anyone should.

 

[lovecraft68]

I do think it's unnecessary, but speaking just for me, it doesn't bother me. That said, I don't think I've ever done that in any of my nonhuman stories. I don't think I've ever really set the rules out, in fact, and so I guess the reader fills in whatever they like.



And that's fine, and the way it should be. I think I implied something I didn't mean to. I do not mean that we should write only responsible stories on the off-chance someone underage would read it. What I was getting at was kind of on a tangent, just saying that a lot of kids don't get a sex talk at home, safe or anything else.

Sad to say-and in this day and age hard to believe-but I'm sure you're right.

The problem is well first off porn/erotica is aimed at an adult audience. It is not meant to be educational to teens or teach them anything, its meant as adult fantasy.

The only thing lit or any porn site can do is post the "don;t enter if you're not 18" which of course stops no one.

Now what could stop them? Parental blocks on the net(at least stop them from watching at home) or just locking them away. Can't do the latter and most parents won;t take the time to do the former.

So now if parents don;t want to have the talk, and don't want to at least attempt to screen what their kids watch, then that means what?

Its up to porn to be responsible now?

This is another extension of a generation of parents who no longer feel they need to raise their kids, but that everyone else should do it for them.

Joe and Sally are too busy on facebook or too wrapped up in their problems to tell junior to wrap it up or tell their daughter to make sure her boy friend wraps it up so now the schools, the government and apparently the porn industry should now teach them.

Wow.

Now on another note, who says porn can't be educational? Just look at Jack Louis thread where he links a video of Nina Hartley teaching us how to lick pussy!

 

[PennLady]

Which is not a responsibility that I feel is mine to shoulder. I'll bet they get a whole lot more education and support--and are a lot more savvy about it on the average now--than my generation was. And if they don't get it, they just aren't paying attention--which gets us around to Darwin.

I never said it was your responsibility, or anyone else's on here.

 

[sr71plt]

Sort of shades of JBJ there, Stella. You have barely more than he does posted here (only two stories) and neither one of them do anything at all with safe sex. I guess the story is that you can't get in trouble on safe sex--and can pat yourself on your back about it--if you don't actually write and post stories.

 

[sr71plt]

I never said it was your responsibility, or anyone else's on here.

Not directly, no. Sure did a dance around (and away from) it, though. And I can say that I was just stating my own opinion on the subject.

We have anal retentive vigilantes drive through here on this topic fairly regularly.