Someone want to explain "Social Justice" to me?

[Lancecastor]

Eyer cannot stomach the thought that some people here on lit are EXACTLY what they say they are.
He must mount an offensive against those, because it upsets his carefully constructed world.

You, having an opinion you are prepared to back up, are in his sights.
Prepare to defend! And all that stuff

Neither you, eyer nor july are breaking any land intelligence records.

 

[PoppingTom]

...it's only the truly delusional who do not grant that the GB is, in fact, full of sick mofos.

1. Yes , I'm so fucking desillusional
2. Yes, I know that the GB is full of mofos. Some of them are sick. No dowd.
3. Yes, We, the Big PoppingTom, Emperor of the American Dream and Merciless Dasher of Right Wing claims of logic and sense, grant anybody in the GB the right to be the totally sick piece of abusing shit they always wanted to be until the end of all days. Except koalabear.

 

[eyer]

You'd have a little more credibility if you could show proof of the lie.
But you can't.

And you're the prototypical pathological liar because you cannot admit that there's never lived a human being who does not lie...

...until, of course, you.

As has been pointed-out numerous times before...

...your fragile ego cannot handle the truth that you're no more special as a human being than everyone else who's ever lived - even all the "dark" guys you've eternally sentenced to your ego's hall of hateful meaningless because you claim 3 individuals raped you.

And you can drop the crap about why you haven't iggied me yet...

...the only reason I even address you at all on this board is because I sense your heart hasn't been totally lost - and I know the truth of what I sometimes speak reaches even to it. Yw.

 

[warrior queen]

And you're the prototypical pathological liar because you cannot admit that there's never lived a human being who does not lie...

...until, of course, you.

As has been pointed-out numerous times before...

...your fragile ego cannot handle the truth that you're no more special as a human being than everyone else who's ever lived - even all the "dark" guys you've eternally sentenced to your ego's hall of hateful meaningless because you claim 3 individuals raped you.

And you can drop the crap about why you haven't iggied me yet...

...the only reason I even address you at all on this board is because I sense your heart hasn't been totally lost - and I know the truth of what I sometimes speak reaches even to it. Yw.

I have never claimed to be 'special' in any way.
What I have claimed, is that I live my life exactly as I portray myself on this forum.

Why is that so difficult to believe?

I made the decision (choice?) not to lie any more about anything some yrs ago..... and I have stayed true to that.
It is hard sometimes, but ironically, life for me has been MUCH simpler because of that decision.

 

[eyer]

Eyer cannot stomach the thought that some people here on lit are EXACTLY what they say they are.

And you do not lie, even white lie...

...yeah: that's an old story now.

There's a wise axiom in sports that a player should never believe the press that's written about him...

...you, though, actually fully expect people to believe your press releases you write yourself - and then whine when they have the audacity to doubt your self-generated pr.

A person whose heart naturally reveres truth...

...doesn't have any inclination to defend herself in any way when doubted - why should she, after all, when she knows she is speaking truth?

Yet, you seem to enjoy spending an inordinate amount of words doing exactly that...

 

[julybaby04]

You are incorrect.
I absolutely live my whole life by the tenets I believe in.
They may be different to what you believe, but I have never wavered in my total adherence to the values, morals and ethics I personally believe to be true.

Case in point -
On New Years Eve, I attended the funeral of a friend.
But because of my aversion to ever setting foot in a church, I did not sit in the congregation.
I stood outside, on the footpath off the church grounds, and paid my respects in my own way.
Nor have I taken part in the several weddings of friends which have been church-based services over the years..... I have always stayed completely off the church grounds during that part of the celebration.
I promised myself I would never again step inside a church many years ago, and I have stayed completely true to that.

If you make the commitment to something..... regardless of what it is...... you should be prepared to carry it through.
Julybaby does not do that.

You have no idea what I do.

Again, I said, I did not know...in respect to my own child. There is much love there and I would not support the union. I honestly doubt I would go to such a ceremony......but like I said, being your child is a whole different circumstance.

I am sure you might have a pause in what you would do when it came to your own child.

 

[eyer]

I made the decision (choice?) not to lie any more about anything some yrs ago..... and I have stayed true to that.
It is hard sometimes, but ironically, life for me has been MUCH simpler because of that decision.

"hard" for the wanker queen...

..."ironically" impossible for the balance of humanity.

 

[julybaby04]

Really?
You believe marriage between same-sex couples is a sin, but you might attend if someone you care deeply for were to have a ceremony? You won't know until you are faced with that situation?
(Your words.)
Either it's a sin, which you believe, and you won't attend, or it's a sin, but you might attend because you care about the person.
Which is it?
Exactly how much of a sin is it?

Actually, the false part was that even in stating my case...for anything....there would be no respect as my views are completely different from most here. Therefore, they are not valid at all......let alone respected.

It is sin.....would not support the sin. Would love the sinner....and honestly, would probably try and talk them out of it (nothing different from trying to talk a heterosexual friend of mine out of marrying a man that was not good for her.....same type of caring).

 

[warrior queen]

You have no idea what I do.

Again, I said, I did not know...in respect to my own child. There is much love there and I would not support the union. I honestly doubt I would go to such a ceremony......but like I said, being your child is a whole different circumstance.

I am sure you might have a pause in what you would do when it came to your own child.

Actually, no.
My daughter had a baby at 17.
I do not agree with her choices, nor do I condone them.
She has asked me to babysit - but because I don't agree with her decisions, I told her right from the get-go that this is not an option.
I will NOT babysit my grand-daughter.

I live by my beliefs, 100%.

 

[julybaby04]

I would completely respect julybaby's views, if she could prove she absolutely lived up to them.
But the wishy-washy hedging, after stating how wrong and sinful she believed same-sex marriage to be, totally negates her viewpoint.
One cannot preach (or push an opinion) if one doesn't completely practice what is preached (or opined).

I don't prove anything here as that would require revealing things about my personal life...more than I have...and I have no desire to do that.

The only issue I had with a gay marriage is the one you brought up about my own child. There is nothing I would support about that ceremony...and like I said, until faced with that situation, one never knows exactly what would happen.

But I do know to have to listen to two people who are flying in the face of God with words that are not of God would be difficult if not impossible to sit and listen to. I would probably be like you and just not be there.....and I would probably not attend anything that celebrated a union that is not of God.

My opinion and again, until I am faced with it, would not know for sure.

 

[warrior queen]

"hard" for the wanker queen...

..."ironically" impossible for the balance of humanity.

....only because 99% of people simply do not have the backbone to practice what they preach.
Those that do, do.
Those that can't, obfuscate.

 

[warrior queen]

You have no idea what I do.

Again, I said, I did not know...in respect to my own child. There is much love there and I would not support the union. I honestly doubt I would go to such a ceremony......but like I said, being your child is a whole different circumstance.

I am sure you might have a pause in what you would do when it came to your own child.

Again, no.
Whatever I personally believe in, I am prepared to 100% back up - be it with my own children or anyone else.

 

[julybaby04]

Actually, no.
My daughter had a baby at 17.
I do not agree with her choices, nor do I condone them.
She has asked me to babysit - but because I don't agree with her decisions, I told her right from the get-go that this is not an option.
I will NOT babysit my grand-daughter.

I live by my beliefs, 100%.

...and this is where we would differ. The baby is an innocent and I would not like the fact that my child had a baby that young, but I would do everything in my power to support her. And yes, it is a sin that my daughter would have had sex outside of marriage and yes I would support her as she made the best of it.

Same in the homosexual world. It is a sin. If they chose to move away from it, I would be there to support it.

Everyone makes mistakes....everyone sins. To stumble in your life is one thing....to make it a way of life is another.

We just have different views on different things.

 

[julybaby04]

Again, no.
Whatever I personally believe in, I am prepared to 100% back up - be it with my own children or anyone else.

..and that is great that you have set those boundaries in your life! I applaud you for that.

 

[Disgustipated]

Actually, no.
My daughter had a baby at 17.
I do not agree with her choices, nor do I condone them.
She has asked me to babysit - but because I don't agree with her decisions, I told her right from the get-go that this is not an option.
I will NOT babysit my grand-daughter.

I live by my beliefs, 100%.

You're a horrible person and a worse parent.

 

[Lancecastor]

All three of you are professing to have a lock on what's right.

And all three of you are calling upon the supposed teachings of "God" and "Christ" and "truth" to explain and justify shunning your blood relatives and calling each other liars.

That's a lot of hate being tossed around, using the love of Christianity and "righteousness" as the justification for your hatred.

Which by the way makes all three of you complete blathering idiots.

You're a horrible person and a worse parent.

Agreed.

 

[warrior queen]

...and this is where we would differ. The baby is an innocent and I would not like the fact that my child had a baby that young, but I would do everything in my power to support her. And yes, it is a sin that my daughter would have had sex outside of marriage and yes I would support her as she made the best of it.

Same in the homosexual world. It is a sin. If they chose to move away from it, I would be there to support it.

Everyone makes mistakes....everyone sins. To stumble in your life is one thing....to make it a way of life is another.

We just have different views on different things.

And that's my issue with you....
I live my beliefs, regardless of what it may cost me personally or emotionally.
You don't appear to have that same ethic.
Yet, you happily come on here, state your point, and want people to respect your opinions.
Untill you can prove your beliefs are actually the way you live, that respect will never happen.

I am hated by a few on here because of the way I am.... yet in the end, not one person here can say I don't absolutely practice what I preach.
I have consistantly shown that the way I live gels completely with what I say here.

You don't show the same courage of your convictions.

 

[warrior queen]

You're a horrible person and a worse parent.

According to you.
Yet - my decision has resulted in my daughter staying in school, moving into her own home, learning how to budget and support herself.
You tell me what the negatives of all that are?

I could have caved in, babysat my grandchild, and allowed my daughter to live her life without having to face up to her responsibilities.
Would that have been better?

 

[eyer]

You have no idea what I do.

Again, I said, I did not know...in respect to my own child. There is much love there and I would not support the union. I honestly doubt I would go to such a ceremony......but like I said, being your child is a whole different circumstance.

I am sure you might have a pause in what you would do when it came to your own child.

The problem isn't sin, whichever sin may be at issue, because we are all sinners and all sin can be forgiven...

...the problem lies in the heart of individual man.

God's Word declares he cannot abide sin in any way...

...just as perfection cannot abide imperfection, just as light hates dark.

It seems to me the relevance of sin in anyone's life...

...is directly propositional to the true hatred of sin in one's heart.

The more one reveres God's will to rule in her life...

...the less tolerance for sin will naturally exist in her heart.

On the other hand, the more casual, laissez-faire acceptance of sin in one's heart and, thus, life...

...completely disobeys the will of God to rule in one's life.

If you don't truly despise thievery in your heart...

...you can't practically attempt to steer a thief toward the actual truth of his crime.

Or...

...so his Word seems to me to be written.

.

 

[Disgustipated]

According to you.
Yet - my decision has resulted in my daughter staying in school, moving into her own home, learning how to budget and support herself.
You tell me what the negatives of all that are?

I could have caved in, babysat my grandchild, and allowed my daughter to live her life without having to face up to her responsibilities.
Would that have been better?

You being there for them. But now that I think about it, you abandoning your child and grandchild was best for them. Kudos!

 

[julybaby04]

And that's my issue with you....
I live my beliefs, regardless of what it may cost me personally or emotionally.
You don't appear to have that same ethic.
Yet, you happily come on here, state your point, and want people to respect your opinions.
Untill you can prove your beliefs are actually the way you live, that respect will never happen.

I am hated by a few on here because of the way I am.... yet in the end, not one person here can say I don't absolutely practice what I preach.
I have consistantly shown that the way I live gels completely with what I say here.

You don't show the same courage of your convictions.

I don't hate you.....don't know you, other than words on a page. I honestly have no opinion of you as you are whomever you are in your own life.

I believe I am consistent in my convictions. I believe it is well known that I am a follower of Christ. I believe I have shared things about my life and why my faith is so strong.

I have, however, seen no reason to share specifics about my life. As far as I can tell on the GB, it is a place where people are incredibly unhappy, feel the need to try and bring others down to their level, and revel in insults and vulgarity.

That is not me. I have friends here and they truly know who I am as they have taken the time to get to know me. In this world of online, unless there is that time taken, there is no reason to share anything.

I, again, applaud you that you feel led to stand by what you do. I stand by the things that matter in my life as well. Just because I do not choose to share every moment of it here does not make it non-existent.

You have your opinions...I have mine. Simple as that.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You have no idea what I do.

Again, I said, I did not know...in respect to my own child. There is much love there and I would not support the union. I honestly doubt I would go to such a ceremony......but like I said, being your child is a whole different circumstance.

Aww, how sweet....just like Tevye in Fiddler on The Roof. Won't forgive your child for marryin' outside of your religious dictums.

Not too many people would say "My religious ideology transcends the love I have for my children".

Sunriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise, Sunset....

 

[Lancecastor]

The problem isn't sin, whichever sin may be at issue, because we are all sinners and all sin can be forgiven...

...the problem lies in the heart of individual man.

God's Word declares he cannot abide sin in any way...

...just as perfection cannot abide imperfection, just as light hates dark.

It seems to me the relevance of sin in anyone's life...

...is directly propositional to the true hatred of sin in one's heart.

The more one reveres God's will to rule in her life...

...the less tolerance for sin will naturally exist in her heart.

On the other hand, the more casual, laissez-faire acceptance of sin in one's heart and, thus, life...

...completely disobeys the will of God to rule in one's life.

If you don't truly despise thievery in your heart...

...you can't practically attempt to steer a thief toward the actual truth of his crime.

Or...

...so his Word seems to me to be written.

.

More nonsense.

If you actually knew about and believed in "Christ's teachings", you'd know that a Christian doesn't "despise" sin...a Christian forgives sins and sinners.

Turns the other cheek. Hope springs eternal, etc.

Despising, hating, judging, failure to abide...are the antithesis of Christian theory and practice.

You have it all completely backwards.

No wonder your posts are all so fucked up.

 

[warrior queen]

You being there for them. But now that I think about it, you abandoning your child and grandchild was best for them. Kudos!

I have not abandoned them.
I have been there every step of the way - with the exception of agreeing to babysit while my daughter goes out to party.
I help her with her schoolwork, I help her with her budget, I help with keeping her house clean.
But I will NOT help her stay an irresponsible child, now that she herself is a parent.

I absolutely believe that my tough love approach has helped her become a better person.

You may not agree with my choices.... but you also are not living with having to make them.

 

[julybaby04]

Aww, how sweet....just like Tevye in Fiddler on The Roof. Won't forgive your child for marryin' outside of your religious dictums.

Not too many people would say "My religious ideology transcends the love I have for my children".

Sunriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise, Sunset....

If it makes you feel better....my children have no desire to be with someone that is the same sex as themselves.....so it is a non-issue (but they do know how God feels about the subject...and that means more to them than anything I could say to them).