American Union members showed Hostess

[jeninflorida]

An American worker keeps their money IN America
An overseas worker keeps their money OVERSEAS

People are so "Made In America" and "Keep Jobs in America" yet, allow jobs to be moved overseas, and the sheep of the GOP whine "It's unions that cause it." Uh, look to the company management, see what breaks they receive for doing it before blaming unions.

the vast of the "American" worker shops at Wal Mart aka China Mart.

unions need to come into the 20th century and realize the pension system is a ponzi scheme and is no longer affordable or sustainable. unless those workers want to take a 50% pay cut to subsidize the pension

 

[RjThoughts]

the vast of the "American" worker shops at Wal Mart aka China Mart.

unions need to come into the 20th century and realize the pension system is a ponzi scheme and is no longer affordable or sustainable. unless those workers want to take a 50% pay cut to subsidize the pension

21st you mean.

 

[jeninflorida]

21st you mean.

no, I would be happy if they could come up to the 20th century. Remember, union workers are just like government workers, too much change shocks the system. its like goldfish, if you put a gold fish in a new tank that's 10 degrees colder or warmer...the goldfish dies.

 

[RjThoughts]

no, I would be happy if they could come up to the 20th century. Remember, union workers are just like government workers, too much change shocks the system. its like goldfish, if you put a gold fish in a new tank that's 10 degrees colder or warmer...the goldfish dies.

Unionization of the American worker began in the 1900s for most businesses. Most were created, not for workers' pay, but for safety!

 

[jeninflorida]

21st you mean.

PS, don't get me wrong. I wish that we all lived in "Mad Men" and had a fat pension. However, the world moved forward and we must adapt. Those that don't aka Hostess will die...or adapt like Huffy and Arrow did.

The issue lies with the consumer. They want American pay, yet consume China goods. Well, guess what...buying China crap and American jobs especially in manufacturing die. I can't blame people for shopping at Wal Mart. They are just trying to make their dollar go further.

 

[RjThoughts]

PS, don't get me wrong. I wish that we all lived in "Mad Men" and had a fat pension. However, the world moved forward and we must adapt. Those that don't aka Hostess will die...or adapt like Huffy and Arrow did.

The issue lies with the consumer. They want American pay, yet consume China goods. Well, guess what...buying China crap and American jobs especially in manufacturing die. I can't blame people for shopping at Wal Mart. They are just trying to make their dollar go further.

Walmart should be criminalized, making - not requesting or asking - employees to work on Thanksgiving. For fucking what? So they can sell more shit for Christmas?

 

[jeninflorida]

Walmart should be criminalized, making - not requesting or asking - employees to work on Thanksgiving. For fucking what? So they can sell more shit for Christmas?

Agreed. its one thing to offer black thanksgiving..*******. But another to demand people come into the retail location. this is nuts!

 

[RjThoughts]

Agreed. its one thing to offer black thanksgiving..*******. But another to demand people come into the retail location. this is nuts!

I had a manager at a family-themed restaurant once tell us kitchen help that we NEEDED to come in on T'giving night to prepare pizza dough for that Friday. After I stopped laughing, I told her that, if the store's closed, I will not work.

I did work one Black Friday at Best Buy, aka The Stop Store according to Better Half. I was there at 4 AM, we opened at 5 for specials. Assinine people there to get "Only while supplies last" deals on electronics that if they came back Saturday afternoon would be back.

 

[jeninflorida]

I had a manager at a family-themed restaurant once tell us kitchen help that we NEEDED to come in on T'giving night to prepare pizza dough for that Friday. After I stopped laughing, I told her that, if the store's closed, I will not work.

I did work one Black Friday at Best Buy, aka The Stop Store according to Better Half. I was there at 4 AM, we opened at 5 for specials. Assinine people there to get "Only while supplies last" deals on electronics that if they came back Saturday afternoon would be back.

You Sir, are either super Brave or super Crazy. One needs to be in fully body armor to enter any store on "black" anything.....NUTS

 

[RjThoughts]

You Sir, are either super Brave or super Crazy. One needs to be in fully body armor to enter any store on "black" anything.....NUTS

YES!
$10/hour plus 25% discount didn't hurt LOL

Was the dumbest thing I EVER did professionally

 

[Beco]

They stuck to their guns! Guess they showed Hostess

but they're going to suck up unemployment benefits for two years, their greed is our tax dollars

 

[lovecraft68]

A bit insensitive, no? These people don't deserve employment because you don't enjoy their products?

Let them eat (Drake's coffee) cake!

They don't deserve employment because they didn't appreciate the fact they still had it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

An American worker keeps their money IN America
An overseas worker keeps their money OVERSEAS

People are so "Made In America" and "Keep Jobs in America" yet, allow jobs to be moved overseas, and the sheep of the GOP whine "It's unions that cause it." Uh, look to the company management, see what breaks they receive for doing it before blaming unions.

Actually its State U. moving their endowments around that does it. And state pension funds. Government is desperate for cash, and they park their billions where they get the largest dividends. So workers take it up the ass.

 

[coastal-boy]

2 months ago, the CEO of Hostess gave himself a 300% raise...Imagine that...a company that is having such a problem surviving tossing out a 300% raise. Oh, it didn't stop there. Management also got a 30% raise. Yet, they wanted to drop the wage on the workers and make them pay more for their health benefits.

See, I have no problem if a company really is having problems that both sides cooperate and give something back. But why should one side take it up the ass while the other gets bonuses?

Everyone is better off. One less Republican run company. Love how they are such good "job creators".

Facts suck don't they?

 

[Beco]

2 months ago, the CEO of Hostess gave himself a 300% raise...Imagine that...a company that is having such a problem surviving tossing out a 300% raise. Oh, it didn't stop there. Management also got a 30% raise. Yet, they wanted to drop the wage on the workers and make them pay more for their health benefits.

See, I have no problem if a company really is having problems that both sides cooperate and give something back. But why should one side take it up the ass while the other gets bonuses?

Everyone is better off. One less Republican run company. Love how they are such good "job creators".

Facts suck don't they?

Because the other side lost their jobs......because it didn't get their way. I am willing to bet that the people that lost their jobs were actually shocked that their Union representives held firm and shut down the company.

 

[RoryN]

To summarize: the right fringe wants America to fail unless America follow right-fringe principles. It stinks of desperation.

Make no mistake about how pathetic some of these GB regulars really are.

 

[coastal-boy]

Because the other side lost their jobs......because it didn't get their way. I am willing to bet that the people that lost their jobs were actually shocked that their Union representives held firm and shut down the company.

What jobs? Seriously...a $34K job cut to 25K? Health benefits costing $35/week to one costing $119/week? This is what the company offered. I would have struck too. As I said, this company was doomed to failed because of management. The union is just an excuse.

 

[Beco]

To summarize: the right fringe wants America to fail unless America follow right-fringe principles. It stinks of desperation.

Make no mistake about how pathetic some of these GB regulars really are.

What are you talking about? they voted to give up their jobs rather than take concessions. So, have fun on the unemployment lines.....

 

[RoryN]

What are you talking about? they voted to give up their jobs rather than take concessions.

Good for them. They stuck it to corrupt management, once and for all - and at the cost of their jobs. In my book, they're heroes.

Sometimes the only way dogs understand something is if you hit them in the nose with a newspaper.

 

[coastal-boy]

To summarize: the right fringe wants America to fail unless America follow right-fringe principles. It stinks of desperation.

Make no mistake about how pathetic some of these GB regulars really are.

They supported that coal company "closing" because Obama got elected too...my 3 year old is better at losing than they are. Obama won...unions won...we will just take our marbles and leave. Do it. For fuck's sake do it. We don't need you. The sooner you leave, the sooner this country is on the road to health. This is the bone in their throat that they are having a hard time accepting. We don't need them.

 

[Worm]

They just need a loan. Marijuana is semi-legal now in a couple more states twinkies will rule once again.

 

[thør]

90 folks out of work in Anchorage.

Link

 

[Beco]

90 folks out of work in Anchorage.

Link

here comes the Obama economy in full swing......

 

[coastal-boy]

here comes the Obama economy in full swing......

Is this the next plan of the Republicans? We didn't win the election, so we are going to shut our companies down? Fine. Do it. Talk is cheap. Let's see you do it. Prove to us how "big" and "important" you are.

This is American free-enterprise at it's greatest. A poorly run company goes down leaving others to fill the whole.

EDIT: BTW, I'm not really talking to you Beco. Just using your post to make a point. People think they can't be replaced. Everyone can be replaced.

 

[Beco]

Is this the next plan of the Republicans? We didn't win the election, so we are going to shut our companies down? Fine. Do it. Talk is cheap. Let's see you do it. Prove to us how "big" and "important" you are.

This is American free-enterprise at it's greatest. A poorly run company goes down leaving others to fill the whole.

EDIT: BTW, I'm not really talking to you Beco. Just using your post to make a point. People think they can't be replaced. Everyone can be replaced.

Oh no big deal, those 18,000 workers will find jobs.......just junior might not get that iTouch for christmas this year.....