Um. Do you think Romney's win in the debate...

[bra_man69]

wow, you are one stupid bitch

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[NeverEndingMe]

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I'm not here to judge the fucktards, I'm here to bitch slap their sorry asses back into reality. granted, most of these socialist mentally disturbed people, need drugs to be fixed.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Gun banning, socialized health care, massive deficit spending, massive government power, corporate welfare to the tune of you grand kid's don't have a hope of paying for this, even shitting all over the bill of rights to push blatant DNC issues = moderate??

Wow...times are deff changing...last i herd that was pretty fucking far left.

What's next... more welfare = conservatism?

I see what the problem is here. You actually think the mythical creature "fiscal conservative" is real!!! Isn't that adorable. We have social liberals and social conservatives.

Now for your list:

Gun banning - nobody is going to take away the guns for the scardy cats.
socialized health care - a national health care program is the most economical way to go, therefore fiscally conservative
massive deficit spending - Republican position
massive government power - Republican position
corporate welfare - Republican position

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm not here to judge the fucktards, I'm here to bitch slap their sorry asses back into reality. granted, most of these socialist mentally disturbed people, need drugs to be fixed.

I would rather be called a socialist than actually be a corporatist who is so stupid they don't even recognize they are sucking the same dick that just fucked them in the ass. Enjoy that ATM nem....vote Romney!!

It's ok you can trust the other lawyer representing wall st. he has an R in front of his name, he's a blue collard middle class guy just like the rest of us...amirite??

 

[CHNOPS]

A thread about the debate and presidential politics, where people show up and say their guy is good and the other guy is dangerous and stupid.

Refreshing. We don't usually have these on the GB.

 

[Saint Peter]

The masturbaters debating the master debaters.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

I would rather be called a socialist than actually be a corporatist who is so stupid they don't even recognize they are sucking the same dick that just fucked them in the ass. Enjoy that ATM nem....vote Romney!!

It's ok you can trust the other lawyer representing wall st. he has an R in front of his name, he's a blue collard middle class guy just like the rest of us...amirite??

hum...socialist are unable to do anything. just like government workers. oh and union workers are just as lazy.

point is, socialist are mentally fucked up people

 

[CHNOPS]

The masturbaters debating the master debaters.

Mass derp-aters

 

[CHNOPS]

Mass derpation.

 

[Saint Peter]

Mass derp nation.

 

[CHNOPS]

Too much mass derpation can hurt your cuntry.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I see what the problem is here. You actually think the mythical creature "fiscal conservative" is real!!! Isn't that adorable. We have social liberals and social conservatives.

No I realize fiscal conservatism is dead...the right wing loves their welfare just as much as the left, if they didn't they would have had heads rolling for Paul/Johnson 2012.

There are a few fiscal conservatives out there but no one want's to hear "Hey folks we gotta pay some bills!!"

Which is cool...I hope they raise the debt limit to 500 trillion and smoke every fucking penny of it on a whole bunch of nothing by Christmas 2013.

Now for your list:

Gun banning - nobody is going to take away the guns for the scardy cats.

Really?

Who has herd that before? Oh every disarmed population on the planet.

Romney seems to favor it...As the executive officer of a state he signed a weapons ban into law, didn't even try to fight it, preached about how many billions of lives a second were save b/c of it.

This is something Obama has never done....EVER

Lefty point goes to Mittens, Righty point to Obummer.

socialized health care - a national health care program is the most economical way to go, therefore fiscally conservative

Bull shit...the most economical way to go is for the gov not to spend shit and get the hell out of the business of being in business.

They need to go back and try being in the business of governing.

Lefty point to Romney...he did it first.
Lefty point to Obama...he did it bigger.

massive deficit spending - Republican position

eh... that's a toss up. Both sides of the isle love blowing money.

Draw

massive government power - Republican position

BAHAHAHA that is a shared desire of both the DNC/GOP and you know it. Sure they do it in different manners but both sides are power grabbers.

Sure Bush put the Patriot act up.....then Obama used it to kill an american citizen without due process, and that's just what wound up on the news. Who knows what other bullshit has been pulled in the name of "National Security" completely fucking a "suspected terrorist" ??

Draw

corporate welfare - Republican position

The guy who put out more corporate welfare than any president of anything ever in the history of the human species much less our nation.....has a D in front of his name and currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Righty point Obama

Mittens hasn't had the chance to blow that kinda cash yet...

If anyone is a moderate it's Obama....and RINO romney is sitting to his left.

 

[BotanyBoy]

hum...socialist are unable to do anything. just like government workers. oh and union workers are just as lazy.

point is, socialist are mentally fucked up people

Sure sure you are entitled to whatever twisted perspective you want....so if you dislike socialism why are you a Romney supporter?

Was it his socialized medicine plan Obama loved so much he copied?

Was it his support for the gay community?

Was it his support of massive gov. spending?

Maybe you don't like guns and support his grabbiness of them...

I don't get it...

 

[Colonel Hogan]

...makes a difference?

At the risk of wasting an American baseball analogy on you, Romney did not hit a home run. At best, he lined one into the gap for extra bases. There is plenty of time left for either he or Obama to do something stupid or brilliant to turn the tide.

I think it will be interesting to see if the Romney campaign turns Ryan loose during the vice presidential debate. I think Ryan has the ability to kick Biden's ass, but if the campaign reigns in his hardline conservatism in favor of another voice of comparative moderation to complement Romney's then we will know that the Republican's are committed to the strategy of "just conservative enough."

Which just might work.

 

[renard_ruse]

...makes a difference?

Didn't watch it, but considering the polls were tightening (down to a 2% gap nationally early in the week) and trending toward Romney anyway, I would assume it will.

Tightening polls will cause more people to donate to the Republicans. Nobody wants to donate to a lost cause.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

At the risk of wasting an American baseball analogy on you, Romney did not hit a home run. At best, he lined one into the gap for extra bases. There is plenty of time left for either he or Obama to do something stupid or brilliant to turn the tide.

I think it will be interesting to see if the Romney campaign turns Ryan loose during the vice presidential debate. I think Ryan has the ability to kick Biden's ass, but if the campaign reigns in his hardline conservatism in favor of another voice of comparative moderation to complement Romney's then we will know that the Republican's are committed to the strategy of "just conservative enough."

Which just might work.

good point.

and as always, well said.

 

[doctor_insanus]

It only prolonged the agony. Obama could have slammed the coffin shut on him, but he missed his chance. The jobs report makes this old news, which is why conservatives are losing what's left of their minds.

When it's all said and done, it will be meaningless.

 

[DonovanCrane]

Romney, Obama...; does it really matter? They're in a neck-in-neck race to be a puppet/figurehead in service to lobbyists, special interests, and so forth. Not only are there two other branches to the government that take a big part in setting policy, but the President is also just the most visible face of the executive branch. A great deal of any President's policy is shaped by the advice of his cabinet, and whoever funded his campaign.

Banks and corporations will win either way, and everyone else can just grab some lube and their ankles... (Seriously; is anyone here actually pretending that the candidates are honest, or have any conviction whatsoever? Hasn't most of the world learned by now that politicians can't be trusted?)

 

[Wrong Element]

Probably to people of my political flavor.

I voted for Bush (twice), Obama last time, and am undecided between Romney and Johnson this time. I was leaning toward Johnson, but now am leaning toward Romney.

Mostly because Romney seems to be thumbing his nose at the extreme right and moving more toward the moderate position he had as governor.

I was registered a Democrat in my 20s, a Republican in my 30s, and an independent in my 40s. I basically don't care what people do, as long as I don't have to pay for it.

I'd probably not vote this round, except in Maryland we get to vote for gay marriage and gambling. I support both.

Hmmm. Some of us remember the last Republican presidential candidate who campaigned as a moderate despite all the conservative support he was receiving, who denied that he favored a budget-busting tax cut for the wealthy, and who promised he would work with Democrats and heal the partisan divide in America.

Romney might actually be a moderate temperamentally, but the key point about him is that he doesn't believe in anything except 1) keeping his own taxes low and 2) getting elected. Everything else is unimportant to him, which is why I've been saying here for over a year that I don't expect a Romney presidency to do any more than, as Grover Norquist said, sit there and sign legislation sent to him by the Tea Party House.


As for the question of whether the debate changed anything, probably not. Almost everyone has their mind made up already, and there's literally no example of a challenger coming from behind to win the presidency as a result of winning debates. Besides, the jobs report has got everyone thinking of substance rather than style again.

Now, if Obama chooses to unilaterally disarm in the final two debates, including the town hall format where he ought to have the clear advantage over someone with the emotional intelligence of HAL 9000, I might want to revisit this opinion.

 

[CaptainKirk]

...makes a difference?

To some people, it makes a difference.

To me, not so much. We're still going to be struggling to get this country back on track no matter who is sitting in the Oval Office.

 

[mercury14]

Obama lost debates against Hillary, Chris Dodd, and Biden multiple times and it didn't matter. He didn't do very well vs McCain either but he looked like a live body standing next to the crypt keeper so people think he tied or slightly won. Now Obama's debate bar against Romney is so low that he's almost certain to do better and the media will play that fact up even if he's underwhelming again.

 

[mercury14]

The headline numbers were good news. The bad news is 800,000 people gave up looking for work. That's the reason the number went down.

Lol no. More people started looking for work. Please read the BLS report, it's just two pages.

http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It made a difference.

Not only that, but it made a big difference.

I know some here have indicated that the new numbers negate the debate,

But in actuality, I think they are more of an exclamation point to the debate as Democrats celebrate and independents wonder exactly what they are celebrating over...

Remember, last weekend we were talking about those amazing Obama polls, several of the key swing states being at or near double-digit leads in favor of the President just in time to kick off the early voting in several states. Where are they now?

 

[Pookie]

The headline numbers were good news. The bad news is 800,000 people gave up looking for work. That's the reason the number went down.

Ummmm .... no. I think you're misusing that number.

Among the marginally attached, there were 802,000 discouraged workers in
September, a decline of 235,000 from a year earlier. (These data are not
seasonally adjusted.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking
for work because they believe no jobs are available for them. The remaining
1.7 million persons marginally attached to the labor force in September had
not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey for reasons such
as school attendance or family responsibilities.

http://bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

 

[RobDownSouth]

But in actuality, I think they are more of an exclamation point to the debate as Democrats celebrate and independents wonder exactly what they are celebrating over...

In all honesty, the only "independents" wondering what the celebration is about are "Not-Republican Independents" such as yourself.