a question for american men

[JohnnySavage]

ditto

Doppo ditto

 

[thør]

While rare, if the situation presents itself a man is just as capable of staying at home and taking care of the kids as a woman.

Unfortunately in todays world having one stay at home parent, no matter the gender is rare.

While woman typically have a better temperament for this, it is not always the case. No matter who it is that stays home, the kids benefit.

Yupper.

 

[dolf]

Oh yeah to the OP.

Your thread is a sideways attempt at slamming Americans. Go fuck yourself. Really. Cause nobody else wants it.

Europeans are the most class conscience people around. Yeah, this includes the Brits. Cunt.

actually, this thread came about because:

aj said - women want wallet
i said - american dudes say that a lot, so either american women are different to other women or american dudes are being douchebags.
chuppy said - that ain't pc, dolf. you get gold diggers all over.
and i said - hey, i'm just making' an observation.

then we debated how the welfare state and the class system have shaped brit culture and whether that might have an impact on such things.

another observation i've made is how so many yanks take personal offence & throw a massive paddy at the slightest hint of criticism towards any part of their country or culture

and of course we're one of the most class conscious cultures, you muppet. you won't find many brits who won't agree with that (without throwing a tantrum about it). that's half the bloody point.

 

[dolf]

That is bull shit.

While rare, if the situation presents itself a man is just as capable of staying at home and taking care of the kids as a woman.

Unfortunately in todays world having one stay at home parent, no matter the gender is rare.

While woman typically have a better temperament for this, it is not always the case. No matter who it is that stays home, the kids benefit.

i like it when you say smart shit

when the ex & his new wife had a kid, he was the one who stayed home (mostly because she earns considerably more than he does. partly because he has more childcare experience & confidence) until the baby was old enough for a child minder.
nobody thinks she married a bum. he's skilled and well respected in his field of work, he works hard, he's a good dad, they're a happy couple.

 

[bronzeage]

actually, this thread came about because:

aj said - women want wallet
i said - american dudes say that a lot, so either american women are different to other women or american dudes are being douchebags.
chuppy said - that ain't pc, dolf. you get gold diggers all over.
and i said - hey, i'm just making' an observation.

then we debated how the welfare state and the class system have shaped brit culture and whether that might have an impact on such things.

another observation i've made is how so many yanks take personal offence & throw a massive paddy at the slightest hint of criticism towards any part of their country or culture

and of course we're one of the most class conscious cultures, you muppet. you won't find many brits who won't agree with that (without throwing a tantrum about it). that's half the bloody point.

I imagine so. Our class structure is based on wealth alone. No one really cares how it was acquired or when. If we had a true American nobility, you can bet your ass(arse) there would now be a Duke of Westinghouse and the third Earl of Dupont.

 

[dolf]

I imagine so. Our class structure is based on wealth alone. No one really cares how it was acquired or when. If we had a true American nobility, you can bet your ass(arse) there would now be a Duke of Westinghouse and the third Earl of Dupont.

ours is a mix of breeding, education, accent and etiquette.

for example, i was eating breakfast at a hotel with slightly snooty, silver service restaurant. sitting at the next table were three women who wore wellies and muddy jackets, and he stank of horses and labradors. nobody thought anything of it, they did not look or feel out of place, because their accents and bearing told everyone that they belonged.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I imagine so. Our class structure is based on wealth alone. No one really cares how it was acquired or when. If we had a true American nobility, you can bet your ass(arse) there would now be a Duke of Westinghouse and the third Earl of Dupont.

You cant be more wrong.

Money comes and goes in America. Prince today, pauper tomorrow.

American class is determined by how you get your money. Wage slaves are proletariats regardless of how much theyre paid. If you were hired, youre proletariat.

If you pay yourself youre middle-class. Farmers, deli owners, self employed anything.

The elites have trusts they live off of.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

actually, this thread came about because:

aj said - women want wallet
i said - american dudes say that a lot, so either american women are different to other women or american dudes are being douchebags.
chuppy said - that ain't pc, dolf. you get gold diggers all over.
and i said - hey, i'm just making' an observation.

then we debated how the welfare state and the class system have shaped brit culture and whether that might have an impact on such things.

another observation i've made is how so many yanks take personal offence & throw a massive paddy at the slightest hint of criticism towards any part of their country or culture

and of course we're one of the most class conscious cultures, you muppet. you won't find many brits who won't agree with that (without throwing a tantrum about it). that's half the bloody point.

My pedigree is better than the Queens (she has American lines) from the Stuarts back. Americans who know generally think Brits rot since William & Mary usurped the crown.

 

[dolf]

My pedigree is better than the Queens (she has American lines) from the Stuarts back. Americans who know generally think Brits rot since William & Mary usurped the crown.

the first kings and lords were only men who killed enough enemies to climb high enough on the back of the dead and the frightened to look down on everyone else. usurping is part of any pedigree.

 

[trysail]

...Our class structure is based on wealth alone. No one really cares how it was acquired or when...

Whilst this is generally accurate, it is not entirely so; as Mencken observed, Americans do confuse money and class. Nevertheless, there are places in the U.S. where all the money in the world can't buy certain things.

 

[trysail]

... & throw a massive paddy...

ROTFLMFAO


What a colossally politically incorrect phrase that is !!! That's priceless; I like it. What a hoot.

 

[bronzeage]

You cant be more wrong.

Money comes and goes in America. Prince today, pauper tomorrow.

American class is determined by how you get your money. Wage slaves are proletariats regardless of how much theyre paid. If you were hired, youre proletariat.

If you pay yourself youre middle-class. Farmers, deli owners, self employed anything.

The elites have trusts they live off of.

Arithmetic was never your strong suit. I'm sure social workers do a lot with trust fund babies, so you would know all about them.


It doesn't matter how you get your money, as long as you get enough. Drew Brees is a wage slave who makes $20million a year. He is welcome in any country club.

 

[CandiCame]

ROTFLMFAO


What a colossally politically incorrect phrase that is !!! That's priceless; I like it. What a hoot.

In Richmond, there's a bar called "The Paddy Wagon" with a mural of leprechauns on the side. It's so racist. And nobody seems to care. It's a big barrel of WTF.

 

[**Emmie**]

Low quality women will look for a man with a big wallet.

High quality women will look for a man with good personality.

It's just as true in this country, as it is in any other.



Also, guys who always fall back on this excuse, generally do it because they don't have a big wallet, or a good personality.

And to the grumpy men out there:
There's also that whole concept of "individuality", you know, in that you take each woman as an individual... and not a conglomerate of your bad experiences with women. I know it's a novel idea.

Although not an am expert on women or a man, I feel qualified to respond here. This statement is correct.

Guys that complain about women wanting a wallet are the very same that want you to pay for everything.
I have no issues paying for my half of dinner and even drinks I order. However, I have been on dates with guys that won't open their wallet.
Women shouldn't take all the rap for this, there are plenty of dead fish out there. Both male and female and I’m sure they exist in your country too.

I own my own business, went to school, and I consider myself to be better than average. I will only date a guy more than once that will pay their share and support themselves.
There are men and women that will live off of you and suck you dry financially if you let them.
A man's family and heritage are of no concern to me. However, his relationship with his mother is enough for me to get an idea of his standards. No upper crust for me.

 

[trysail]

It doesn't matter how you get your money, as long as you get enough. Drew Brees is a wage slave who makes $20million a year. He is welcome in any country club.

Hardly.

 

[bronzeage]

Hardly.

Yes, even in Atlanta.

 

[trysail]

Yes, even in Atlanta.

Go on believing what you choose to believe.

 

[butters]

In Richmond, there's a bar called "The Paddy Wagon" with a mural of leprechauns on the side. It's so racist. And nobody seems to care. It's a big barrel of WTF.

http://thepaddywagonirishpub.com/

well i guess it makes some irsh punters laugh and doesn't keep them from the pub

nickname given to a vehicle police use to transport prisoners. The name came from the New York Draft riots of 1863. The Irish at the time were the poorest people in the city. When the draft was implemented it had a provision for wealthier people to buy a waiver. The Irish rioted, and the term Paddy wagon was coined.

 

[bronzeage]

Go on believing what you choose to believe.

If we were talking about Terry Bradshaw, you might have a point.

 

[blobfish]

ok, let me give you a personal example to consider:

my best friend's husband has just turned 50. he has worked all his life since leaving university, and spent the majority of his working years as a research cancer scientist for a london hospital, barely ever taking time off. my bestie had been married and a housewife for most her adult life, wasn't 'allowed' to go out to work, and was divorced a couple of years before she met him.

they've moved up country into a house he's invested money into by way of selling off his deceased mother's house, and my friend's house down here is in the process of being sold, but most the money from that sale will go back to the mortgage provider, with just some to go into their joint bank account.

now my bf's husband took an early retirement instead of being laid off in the nhs cutbacks. since moving up country the sort of work he's being offered is ... pathetic, really. they have a pup, chickens, and have been decorating throughout... my friend has a job, nothing fancy.

between them they have come to the conclusion that, for now, she will remain working while he stays home to run the place. this suits both of them to a T, as she is making up lost time and loves working, meeting more people and so on. he is more than happy running the home, cooking the meals (he is an excellent cook!) and being more apart from people as a general rule.

does this make him a bum? does it make him lazy? no, it means it's a solution they've come to that absolutely suits them best as a couple. things may change in teh future, but for now they are perfectly content this way. running a household was never, ever an easy job.

There are exceptions, but my point is still valid.

 

[kbate]

Do your own research lazy bitch.

I do recall several discussions in which I submitted numerous links to support my claims which you never replied. You and Recidiva are cut from the same cloth. Well read but no real life experiences. When anybody proves you're wrong you ignore any further discussion.

You are what we in real world call an educated idiot. Book learned but no real experience. Oh but your grammar is divine.

You are just what we call an idiot. Not an educated idiot, not an experienced idiot, just purely and simply an idiot.

You love to repeat your stupid line, "no real world experience," but it is just that - a stupid line repeated ad nauseum by a moron. It is naught but the the empty and hollow words of someone who is out of his league.

 

[where]

Low quality women will look for a man with a big wallet.

High quality women will look for a man with good personality.

It's just as true in this country, as it is in any other.



Also, guys who always fall back on this excuse, generally do it because they don't have a big wallet, or a good personality.

And to the grumpy men out there:
There's also that whole concept of "individuality", you know, in that you take each woman as an individual... and not a conglomerate of your bad experiences with women. I know it's a novel idea.

this.

 

[Sean]

this.

Fuck me sideways, look who it is!

 

[where]

Fuck me sideways, look who it is!

shhhh cherie, I'm prepping for my probation. you never saw me.

 

[Disgustipated]

Fuck me sideways, look who it is!

Mansome and Kibble on the same day!