Fluke is a Fraud

[miles]

Proving once again he's no fluke, his fraudulent style's as phony as he is.

Military officer....HR Executive....civilian contractor.......liar. Too bad that username has already been taken.

 

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[miles]

Dr. McPhony!

 

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[miles]

Obama had the poor judgement of appointing the incompetent Holder, and has the ultimate responsibility for his his own incompetency in doing so.

Not to mention he hasn't fired his lying chief law enforcement officer of the US.

 

[miles]

An MD as well too eh?

Dr. McPhony.

 

[Liar]

And now you're turning around and saying this issue was promoted by Democrats in order to fire up the liberal base? Are you fucking serious?

You can't be serious.

Wait.

You're seriously saying that?

If it is, they're geniuses on an epic scale, and the conservatives are totally braindead for taking the bait.

 

[mercury14]

"Fast and Furious has virtually nothing to do with Obama. You want to make it a presidential-level election issue because you're desperate as hell and I understand that. But the fact is that it's not a presidential issue."

An attempt to impugn and thus impeach my motivations.

The reality is that their smooth and blatant lying offends me as much as yours.

It's called hypocrisy, another serious charge that you like to level at everyone in conversation after conversation...

No that's not what argumentum ad hominem is at all. You're even failing at your own favorite logic cop act today. This really isn't a good day for you, is it?

Exposition:
A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red herrings may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic of the debate.

Me accusing you of wishing that Fast & Furious was a bigger election year issue (because you need an issue on your side to catch Obama) is in no way irrelevant to the topic of partisan media bias.

You're really bad at this.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

1) What "numbers" are you talking about? If you want to know how many women are impacted by their employers not covering birth control my answer is that A) the question is meaningless because as long as there's reasonable potential for hardship it's enough, and B) The Democrats are putting contraception in the preventive care bucket so the number will be zero.

2) I could give a shit who brought up the topic first. [BUT I'M DAMNED SURE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO NOW PIN IT ON THE REPUBLICANS!] The fact is John Boehner and Mitch McConnell took it and ran in order to make the story as outrageously huge as possible. McConnell was calling for nonbinding theatrical Senate votes on it. Republicans of all sorts testified on the floor of Congress. Then the Republicans led by Darrell Issa and Boehner decided to have official hearings on the matter with as much media hoopla as possible. The right-wing media erupted. They couldn't get enough of this story and it's associated Obama bashing!

And now you're turning around and saying this issue was promoted by Democrats in order to fire up the liberal base? Are you fucking serious?

You can't be serious.

Wait.

You're seriously saying that?

Okay then you have made it perfectly clear, unless you can prove otherwise, then NO WOMEN are being impacted. The number is already zero.

The hearings you are talking about are being purposely mischaracterized by yourself to match the testimony; Nancy had an agreed upon expert and she pulled a bait-and-switch at the last moment.

This would not be an issue without the Church crying foul, which I find hysterically funny because they were hip to the Social Justice agenda, even awarded our young new President an honorary degree at Notre Dame and then were shocked as hell when he turned on them...

They should not have been caught by surprise.

"In Germany, they first came for the communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics. I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak up."
Martin Niemöller
Reverend Niemöller spent time in one of the concentration camps (1938-45).

 

[Liar]

Obama had the poor judgement of appointing the incompetent Holder, and has the ultimate responsibility for his his own incompetency in doing so.

Fair enough. I agree that the President have responsibility for his appointees.

But that was not the question. AJ claimed he was not making Fast&Furious about anything other than Eric Holder. I said he was full of it. For above mentioned reason.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Running guns into Mexico and losing track of them is not a "my side" issue, it is an American Tragedy which the Democrat press refuses to follow up upon.

Agent Terry is still dead.

Why should no one have to answer for that?

 

[Liar]

Running guns into Mexico and losing track of them is not a "my side" issue, it is an American Tragedy which the Democrat press refuses to follow up upon.

Agent Terry is still dead.

Why should no one have to answer for that?

This has nothing to do with any point I have made in this thread.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Fair enough. I agree that the President have responsibility for his appointees.

But that was not the question. AJ claimed he was not making Fast&Furious about anything other than Eric Holder. I said he was full of it. For above mentioned reason.

I said, that he is part of the Obama Administration. I know that compartmentalizing is a valuable tool in self-deceit, but come on man, that's OVER-compartmentalization...



It's affirmative action at work; nothing can be done to compromise a minority President, not the facts, not the truth, not a dead agent...

See that's a REAL number. I can prove one of this government's failed policies got a man killed with one of their guns.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This has nothing to do with any point I have made in this thread.

That wasn't directed to you and if you were closely following the thread instead of trying to make cheap easy points, you would clearly see that.

Have a nice evening.

~bye~

 

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[JohnnySavage]

Running guns into Mexico and losing track of them is not a "my side" issue, it is an American Tragedy which the Democrat press refuses to follow up upon.

Agent Terry is still dead.

Why should no one have to answer for that?

Guns don't kill people.


...did you see what I did there?

 

[Liar]

I said, that he is part of the Obama Administration. I know that compartmentalizing is a valuable tool in self-deceit, but come on man, that's OVER-compartmentalization...



It's affirmative action at work; nothing can be done to compromise a minority President, not the facts, not the truth, not a dead agent...

See that's a REAL number. I can prove one of this government's failed policies got a man killed with one of their guns.

So it DOES have something to do with Obama?

Still no facts there merc; just more serious charges...



Who said that I was making Fast&Furious about anything other than Eric Holder?

Serious charges indeed.

 

[mercury14]

Let me see if I can find at least one example of ad hominem in this thread. Oh wait, here's one!

All he needs is to create a fake hearing and have some "expert" testimony brought in by his former alt...

And this.

Merc lies by calling himself an Australian philosophy student as a joke!

And this.

With your alt history you haven't got any credibility when it comes to accusations about lying.

And this.

Same guy who's first "appearance" was as one of three authors sharing the Celbarai alt.

And this.

Just more ad hominem. You lie smoother than you attack.

It's all easier than defense...

And this.

All he needs is to create a fake hearing and have some "expert" testimony brought in by his former alt...

And this.

Military officer....HR Executive....civilian contractor.......liar. Too bad that username has already been taken.

And this.

An MD as well too eh?

 

[miles]

You were wrong to imply that Holder's continued service is not a political consideration for Obama in an election year. Obama knows that if he ignores the Holder issue and Fast and Furious, his lap dog MSM will support him in the effort.

.....then claims he puts the country before politics!

It's been proven time and again that Obama is an unconscionable liar. But that's okay with his supporters.

 

[Liar]

You were wrong to imply that Holder's continued service is not a political consideration for Obama in an election year. Obama knows that if he ignores the Holder issue and Fast and Furious, his lap dog MSM will support him in the effort.

Where and how did I imply that?

 

[mercury14]

Okay then you have made it perfectly clear, unless you can prove otherwise, then NO WOMEN are being impacted.

Mr. Logic cop, tell me what fallacy you're making right now.

"Unless you can prove otherwise God definitely does not exist!!!" See how that works?

Tell me your logic flaw oh wise master of clarity!

 

[off2bed]

The truth about Sandra Fuck:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/419117_231978046897409_150673391694542_465903_283588309_n.jpg

 

[miles]

The truth about Sandra Fuck:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s320x320/419117_231978046897409_150673391694542_465903_283588309_n.jpg

She's destined to become another phony hero of the left.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The truth about Sandra Fuck:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...897409_150673391694542_465903_283588309_n.jpg

She's destined to become another phony hero of the left.

This is why everyone thinks you two are the same poster. You both share the same brain cell.

 

[mercury14]

The hearings you are talking about are being purposely mischaracterized by yourself to match the testimony; Nancy had an agreed upon expert and she pulled a bait-and-switch at the last moment.

The entire testimony is being mis-characterized by you. The testimony is not the issue. It's not scandalous. It's not worthy of note for more than a brief moment. Fluke said little more than "I think we should have contraception coverage at Georgetown because it's not fair in the opinions of me and my friends." Yet you continue to harp on what a big awful deal it was.

The big deal was Rush using the public airwaves calling Fluke a whore and a prostitute, and saying she has so much sex it's a wonder she could walk into the capital building. THAT is the scandal AJ, not Fluke's words which had all been heard before.

Blaming the firestorm on democrats is dumb, even for you.