I had my child out of wedlock, I chose not to marry her father

Once a child is born, how do women have any options that men dont?

A woman can drop the baby off at any fire dept, police dept or hospital. It's the law in many states. They cannot detain her or ask where the father is. They can't ask anything for that matter.
 
Once a child is born, how do women have any options that men dont?

That's like saying "once an election is held how do men have any options that women don't", when you can't vote as a woman. It's a dishonest arguement.
 
That's like saying "once an election is held how do men have any options that women don't", when you can't vote as a woman. It's a dishonest arguement.

So you're arguing men should have a say in if a woman has an abortion?
 
A woman can drop the baby off at any fire dept, police dept or hospital. It's the law in many states. They cannot detain her or ask where the father is. They can't ask anything for that matter.

We covered this already.
 
I am, apparently the only person who thinks men shouldn't have the option to opt out of parenting.

I didnt realize I was a minority in this
I don't remember writing that I think men should have the option to opt out of parenting. I simply said, if I was the one who took his choice away and he had no interest in being in the child's life or supporting the child financially I'd not force him to do so. I'd opt out of taking his money.
 
I don't remember writing that I think men should have the option to opt out of parenting. I simply said, if I was the one who took his choice away and he had no interest in being in the child's life or supporting the child financially I'd not force him to do so. I'd opt out of taking his money.

and i used the words ''i'd'' and ''but that's just me''.
 
I don't remember writing that I think men should have the option to opt out of parenting. I simply said, if I was the one who took his choice away and he had no interest in being in the child's life or supporting the child financially I'd not force him to do so. I'd opt out of taking his money.


I personally, wouldnt either, but I dont begrudge(not saying you do) the women who struggle and need the assistance from the fathers of their children.
 
I don't remember writing that I think men should have the option to opt out of parenting. I simply said, if I was the one who took his choice away and he had no interest in being in the child's life or supporting the child financially I'd not force him to do so. I'd opt out of taking his money.

So you admit it's a good idea.
 
I personally, wouldnt either, but I dont begrudge(not saying you do) the women who struggle and need the assistance from the fathers of their children.

I do because it's an outdated way of supporting children from days when women were viewed as property and responsibity of the men who fuck them. If your interest is truly that of the child the state should pick up the tab and not waste resources on fruitless moral crusades of a bygone era. Feeding, clothing, and educating children who need it I consider tax money well spent.
 
I do because it's an outdated way of supporting children from days when women were viewed as property and responsibity of the men who fuck them. If your interest is truly that of the child the state should pick up the tab and not waste resources on fruitless moral crusades of a bygone era. Feeding, clothing, and educating children who need it I consider tax money well spent.

I think you should make a poll, I dont know many taxpayers, myself included, who would be ok with supporting someone elses children simply because they dont want to.
 
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