The 100-Watt Incandescent Light Bulb Has Been Saved...

[eyer]

...at least until next September, which is plenty of time to stock-up on the 4/$1 everyday deal at your neighborhood Family Dollar.

So, despite his bright intentions...

...George Bush remains the dimmest bulb in the pack for at least a while longer.

Government omnibus spending bill add-on puts incandescent light bulb ban on hold

Jonathan Benson
Wednesday, December 21, 2011

(NaturalNews) January 1, 2012, was supposed to be the day that the Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA), which was passed by Congress and signed into law by former President George W. Bush back in 2007, came into effect, banning certain high-watt incandescent light bulbs. But all such bulbs will remain on the market, at least for now, thanks to a “rider” that some members of Congress successfully attached to the massive government spending bill.

The phase-out of traditional incandescent light bulbs beginning with 100-watt bulbs on Jan. 1 was a contentious and invasive measure that many Americans vehemently opposed. And even though the ban was signed into law by a Republican president, many Republicans in Congress today made it their mission to nix it. They effectively blocked the government from spending money to enforce the standards until September.

http://www.naturalnews.com/034453_light_bulb_ban_government_energy.html

 

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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70621.html

Industry: Light bulb war a dim idea

The GOP's light bulb 'freedom of choice' strategy is backfiring with Big By ROBIN BRAVENDER | 12/18/11 7:47 PM EST

Big Business usually loves it when the GOP goes to war over federal rules.
But not when it comes to light bulbs.

This year, House Republicans made it a top priority to roll back regulations they say are too costly for business. Last week, the GOP won a long-fought battle to kill new energy efficiency rules for bulbs when House and Senate negotiators included a rider to block enforcement of the regulations in the $1 trillion-plus, year-end spending bill.

The rider may have advanced GOP talking points about light bulb “freedom of choice,” but it didn’t win them many friends in the industry, who are more interested in their bottom line than political rhetoric.

Big companies like General Electric, Philips and Osram Sylvania spent big bucks preparing for the standards, and the industry is fuming over the GOP bid to undercut them.

After spending four years and millions of dollars prepping for the new rules, businesses say pulling the plug now could cost them. The National Electrical Manufacturers Association has waged a lobbying campaign for more than a year to persuade the GOP to abandon the effort.

Manufacturers are worried that the rider will undermine companies’ investments and “allow potential bad actors to sell inefficient light bulbs in the United States without any fear of federal enforcement,” said Kyle Pitsor, the trade group’s vice president of government relations.

So, if industry wants these rules, why is the GOP grinding them to a halt? Republicans say they’re pro-choice when it comes to light bulbs.

 

[eyer]

So how do you say whore in Lego lingo?

 

[phrodeau]

So how do you say whore in Lego lingo?

Dubya.

 

[eyer]

You've always been jealous of Jeb...

...huh?

 

[phrodeau]

...at least until next September, which is plenty of time to stock-up on the 4/$1 everyday deal at your neighborhood Family Dollar.

So, despite his bright intentions...

...George Bush remains the dimmest bulb in the pack for at least a while longer.

If you value quality, and wish to support American innovation, don't buy any of those 4/$1 lamps.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

I no longer use the incandescent light bulb. However, I firmly believe we should continue to use it as a matter of free choice.

My best guest is that if we do not comply with discarding the great incandescent bulb, it could eventually be used as an excuse for our increasingly police nation (United States) to raid our homes and jail those still using that light bulb.

 

[eyer]

If you value quality, and wish to support American innovation, don't buy any of those 4/$1 lamps.

If I valued your opinion(s)...

...I'd buy you some 4 rolls/$1 toilet paper.

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

If I valued your opinion(s)...

...I'd buy you some 4 rolls/$1 toilet paper.

If he valued your opinion, he would ask for it.

No matter which side of the coin you choose, we both know you would stab your supporters in the back.

 

[Frizzle_Fry]

If you value quality, and wish to support American innovation, don't buy any of those 4/$1 lamps.

Can they make them for .25c each? in a 4 pack?

 

[Johnny_Ray_Wilson]

When one is financially challenged at the moment you need a light bulb, are you going to spend the several dollars you DO NOT have on one energy saving bulb or the ONE dollar you do have on 4 incandescent bulbs?

Simple 'have' vs 'have not' prevails in immediate situations where what you can afford does not match what you prefer.

 

[phrodeau]

Can they make them for .25c each? in a 4 pack?

Would you trust a 25-cent lamp to make your house look lived-in while you're visiting Grandma?

 

[Karen Kraft]

You've always been jealous of Jeb...

...huh?

Jeb will make an excellent president.

It's in his genes.

 

[eyer]

If he valued your opinion, he would ask for it.

No matter which side of the coin you choose, we both know you would stab your supporters in the back.

Sorry...

...I wouldn't even waste my time stabbing a punk like you in the back.

 

[MagicFingers]

Bush sucks again

What a dumb idea to ban incandescent bulbs. I've heard that all production has been stopped.
Have you ever tried to put a new, curley bulb in your refrigerator, or range hood, or fan light, or any fixture with a dimmer? And certain globes don't fit either because the new bulbs are bigger and do not fit! What about the old lamp shades that clamp onto the bulbs?
And I'm looking for a shrink ray to get them into my night lights.

And, I can get the new CFL's for a dollar or less, but my last owner put in fixtures with the two little dots instead of screw sockets so that I have to buy $7-$8 bulbs now. And they only make TWO wattages of them now. How does that save me money? It doesn't. And the CFL's still burn out and I have to spend 20 to 30 times more to replace them.
And I can't put up outdoor Christmas lights because the outside light has the two dots too, and there is no other outlet there.

ARRRRRGH. Government, go play with yourselves and leave free market to find what we want and need and produce it. Gov't fucks up too much!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Oh god another one?! Fuck.

Firstly show where you got your idea that they were banning ALL incandecents instead of just 100 watt. Second, stop praying to the Free Market it doesn't always come up with the best solution and sometimes government has to force it along into a better place.

 

[MagicFingers]

Oh god another one?! Fuck.

Firstly show where you got your idea that they were banning ALL incandecents instead of just 100 watt. .

A recent newspaper article. I said they were not making them any more.
I can't buy 8" or 5 1/4" floppies any more. Why? Because there is no demand for them any more. They will keep making something until there is no more demand for it, then stop. We don't need Bush to decide when we can no longer buy light bulbs!

 

[Sean Renaud]

A recent newspaper article. I said they were not making them any more.
I can't buy 8" or 5 1/4" floppies any more. Why? Because there is no demand for them any more. They will keep making something until there is no more demand for it, then stop. We don't need Bush to decide when we can no longer buy light bulbs!

Stupid example. Why can't you guys ever come up with examples that aren't absolutely stupid. There is no demand for that technology because it's dated and there is no demand for it. I haven'd done all the research on why Bush banned these specific bulbs but you know why we don't dump in rivers anymore? Because the government stepped in and said no. And it would have been a long time before demand did anything about it. You know why we have seat belts, air bags and high (by comparison to the 50's and 60's) gas mileage? By and large because the EPA simply demanded it. The market is not magic. It is concerned with one thing and one thing only. Profits. It's not interested in the enviroment, it's not in particularly interested in your health. It's simply interested in profits. Sometimes it's best for government to step in and simply say NO. I don't know for sure if THIS is one of those cases because I haven't been following this particular case with any great interest.

 

[MagicFingers]

Have another drink, stupid

Stupid example. Why can't you guys ever come up with examples that aren't absolutely stupid. There is no demand for that technology because it's dated and there is no demand for it. I haven'd done all the research on why Bush banned these specific bulbs but you know why we don't dump in rivers anymore? Because the government stepped in and said no. And it would have been a long time before demand did anything about it. You know why we have seat belts, air bags and high (by comparison to the 50's and 60's) gas mileage? By and large because the EPA simply demanded it. The market is not magic. It is concerned with one thing and one thing only. Profits. It's not interested in the enviroment, it's not in particularly interested in your health. It's simply interested in profits. Sometimes it's best for government to step in and simply say NO. I don't know for sure if THIS is one of those cases because I haven't been following this particular case with any great interest.

There is nothing wrong with your examples and I don't disagree with any of them. But to say I'm stupid when you admit to knowing nothing about the matter is pretty stupid too. Merry Christmass. Peace out

 

[Sean Renaud]

First. Didn't say you were stupid, said your example was. You might as well have pointed out that you can't buy a horse and buggy anymore because the market eliminated them. Which is true, but there was nothing inherently wrong with the horse and buggy. Or that you can't buy black and white televisions. Which is entirely different from say the government banning lead paint from being used. The market wasn't likely to make that choice on it's own. It needed prodding in the right direction. I might not like Bush, but I suspect that if a Republican put a block on something for enviromental reasons (depending on the date this happpened with a REpublican Congress) that the science must have been so cut and dry that anybody with a lick of sense would have made the same decision.

Merry Christmas

 

[phrodeau]

What a dumb idea to ban incandescent bulbs. I've heard that all production has been stopped.
Have you ever tried to put a new, curley bulb in your refrigerator, or range hood, or fan light, or any fixture with a dimmer? And certain globes don't fit either because the new bulbs are bigger and do not fit! What about the old lamp shades that clamp onto the bulbs?
And I'm looking for a shrink ray to get them into my night lights.

And, I can get the new CFL's for a dollar or less, but my last owner put in fixtures with the two little dots instead of screw sockets so that I have to buy $7-$8 bulbs now. And they only make TWO wattages of them now. How does that save me money? It doesn't. And the CFL's still burn out and I have to spend 20 to 30 times more to replace them.
And I can't put up outdoor Christmas lights because the outside light has the two dots too, and there is no other outlet there.

ARRRRRGH. Government, go play with yourselves and leave free market to find what we want and need and produce it. Gov't fucks up too much!

Change your fixtures to the Edison screw base socket. They are easy to find, cheap, and you can use the cheap CFL's in them. You'll want halogens or LED's for your dimmers. Appliance lamps and night light lamps aren't banned.