A slaves offering

[loneranger8921]

I'm a master with a hot female offering her body and for all other purposes her life. She wants me to love here so she is willing to submit to my whims.
But I feel that it is not quite what I want anyone else ever had these feelings?

 

[MissHolly]

I'm a master with a hot female offering her body and for all other purposes her life. She wants me to love here so she is willing to submit to my whims.
But I feel that it is not quite what I want anyone else ever had these feelings?

what more could a Master desire?

 

[Cattypuss]

I'm a master with a hot female offering her body and for all other purposes her life. She wants me to love here so she is willing to submit to my whims.
But I feel that it is not quite what I want anyone else ever had these feelings?

If you don't 100% want it, don't for fuck's sake do it. The potential for an emotional shit-storm is huge.

 

[MissHolly]

If you don't 100% want it, don't for fuck's sake do it. The potential for an emotional shit-storm is huge.

A Master who doesnt appreciate the gift that the sub gives him....her submission...would not look out for her best interests....a scary thing.

 

[Cattypuss]

A Master who doesnt appreciate the gift that the sub gives him....her submission...would not look out for her best interests....a scary thing.

I think it's more basic and human than that.

If someone wants a relationship on a certain footing and the other party is more reluctant but agrees, it is very unlikely to end well for ANYONE.

 

[CutieMouse]

I'm a master with a hot female offering her body and for all other purposes her life. She wants me to love her so she is willing to submit to my whims.
But I feel that it is not quite what I want anyone else ever had these feelings?

What I'm interpreting here, is that she's willing to do sun/moon/stars ZOMG you can have my EVERYTHINGNESS oh Masterful Master Man... because she sees it as a way to make you love her. It isn't necessarily that she's submissive, or that she gets off on submitting to you, as much as she sees it as a way to get what she wants. Your love. So instead of submission, it's tolerance [and manipulation] - which for some people kinda kills the whole hawtness/pleasure aspect of the BDSM relationship thing.

what more could a Master desire?

A) Accepting submission from someone who is "offering her body and for all other purposes her life." is a fuck-ton of responsibility. Not everyone WANTS that sort of burden. Not everyone wants that kind of responsibility/burden with a 'submissive' who has an agenda [making him "love her"].

A Master who doesn't appreciate the gift that the sub gives him....her submission...would not look out for her best interests....a scary thing.

B) Submission isn't a *gift*. It's a choice, on exactly the same (but opposite) level of Master/Dominant. In questioning his feelings about the situation, he actually *is* looking out for her best interests (as well as his own).

To the OP - yes your feelings are normal... it means your big head is taking care of the situation instead of your little head. That's a good thing.

 

[loneranger8921]

I care for her but not love her she is in love with me. So yes plus i am exploiting her submissive behavior

 

[CutieMouse]

I care for her but not love her she is in love with me. So yes plus i am exploiting her submissive behavior

Okay - how EXACTLY are you "exploiting" her submissive behavior? Does she know she's more into you than you are her?

If the answer is yes, then her actions are on her own damn head.

If the answer is no, then you need to make it very very clear (as bluntly as possible), that while you care about her, the love thing is not only not reciprocated, but no amount of submission/kinky sex/blahblahblah will change that fact.

And then the ball's in her court.

 

[kiwi_submissive]

Maybe I am a fraction confused here but why does it matter if she is hot? Does that make you more likely to potentially exploit her than if she was not hot?

 

[bhndblueyes88]

I say this all the time, but CM, I love you just a little <3

OP, be honest and don't forget that any bdsm relationship is still a RELATIONSHIP. If don't think the action is appropriate for a "normal" relationship, it isn't for a bdsm relationship. If you think you're exploiting her, that's probably not a good thing. Don't deceive her (or let her deceive herself), and don't put yourself in a situation you aren't happy with. It's not good for anyone.

 

[Etoile]

Dude, CM is the smartest ever.

 

[subwannabe]

She wants something you can't give her. It is wrong to lead her on letting her think there is something more there than there really is. You need to be dead honest with her. Even if she still agrees to the relationship as is I think you are doing both of you a disservice. She needs to be able to find what she wants and so do you.

 

[the captians wench]

Maybe I am a fraction confused here but why does it matter if she is hot? Does that make you more likely to potentially exploit her than if she was not hot?

Well, think about it.

If I had some hot guy who wanted to give me the world, but I wasn't that into him, it would be harder for me to say "ya know, I don't think this is going anywhere" than it would if the same happened with a guy who I was not physically attracted to.

It's that whole big brain/little brain internal struggle.

Dude, CM is the smartest ever.

She's like the older sister I hope to be when my little sister comes of age.

 

[MissHolly]

I fell for Master long before I even saw a picture of him. He got into my head and the rest just followed. He is my adorable Master...but by the time we met....it didnt manner if he had 2 heads...I would have loved him anyway!

 

[the captians wench]

I fell for Master long before I even saw a picture of him. He got into my head and the rest just followed. He is my adorable Master, but by the time we met, it didn't manner if he had 2 heads, I would have loved him anyway!

Yes, but you're talking about love.

This guy fully admits he doesn't love her (as much as she loves him), so it's not really about love.

I was head over heals for Jounar 4 months before I ever saw his face. I had a friend/playmate who I talked to for 6 months before meeting him and agreed to fuck him before knowing what he looked like. Love can blind us.

But he's just not that into this girl, so yes, the physical becomes a lot more important.

Example: I met a guy not too long ago. Charming, funny, worshiped me like a goddess. I enjoyed spending the day with him, but the physical attraction just wasn't there, he was a bit too feminine for my tastes, and he wasn't really a type I'd normally go for. So we haven't met again.

Now had all of those things been true, except that he was a stud muffin, I would have worked harder to clear my schedule. Pure lust, and fuck if he's too feminine to ever have a real relationship with.

 

[MissHolly]

Yes, but you're talking about love.

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Is it possible to serve a Master and not love him? I wasn't expecting that to happen ( I was new to all this), but it was impossible to deny.

I know that some Masters will not allow themselves to fall in love with their subs.... but I think that would be difficult as well. The level of trust and commitment involved circumspects it.

 

[kiwi_submissive]

Well, think about it.

If I had some hot guy who wanted to give me the world, but I wasn't that into him, it would be harder for me to say "ya know, I don't think this is going anywhere" than it would if the same happened with a guy who I was not physically attracted to.

It's that whole big brain/little brain internal struggle.



She's like the older sister I hope to be when my little sister comes of age.

Really? That never even comes into my mind whether someone is hot or not as to whether i want to be with them. If anything I stay away from really good looking guys because i find alot of them turn out to be arrogant tossers and prima donnas.

I was just confused why he had to point out that she was hot, like that would make a difference in his decision and really just goes to show how shallow he is that he had to make that point.

 

[the captians wench]

Is it possible to serve a Master and not love him? I wasn't expecting that to happen ( I was new to all this), but it was impossible to deny.

I know that some Masters will not allow themselves to fall in love with their subs.... but I think that would be difficult as well. The level of trust and commitment involved circumspects it.

Ah, but you're looking at it from the submissive's pov, and the OP is in the PYL position.

But yes, it is possible. Well anything is possible.

Some believe that you can not experience full submission with out loving your PYL completely. I think that's bull shit. There are many forms of love. I have in some way loved most of the people I have played with and even served, but there have been a few where that connection wasn't there.

For me, it's serving a need. Like eating, breathing, sleeping, sex is a need as service is for me as well. I don't have to be in love with my dinner to eat it, or even to enjoy eating it. And the same goes for those who serve the sex need. Sure it's nice if I have some sort of relationship with the person, as I'll be willing to do a lot more things with them, but it's not necessary.

Really? That never even comes into my mind whether someone is hot or not as to whether i want to be with them. If anything I stay away from really good looking guys because i find alot of them turn out to be arrogant tossers and prima donnas.

I was just confused why he had to point out that she was hot, like that would make a difference in his decision and really just goes to show how shallow he is that he had to make that point.

*shrug* Every half year or so I have an internal struggle with the idea of how shallow I am. I mean, let's face it, I'm never going to be a super model, but I definitely have it hard for a pretty face. And I will reject some one if they don't fit my type.

Now having said that, let me reiterate that if a connection is there, looks are less important to me, and I have fallen in love and even served men who were not good looking by any one's standards. But they stimulated me, and that will count for a lot.

And yeah, good looking guys are usually douche bags, and if I was looking for "true love" I'd stay clear, but when I'm just looking for a friend I can fuck, I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of asshattery. As long as the fuck is good.

 

[CutieMouse]

I say this all the time, but CM, I love you just a little <3

Dude, CM is the smartest ever.

She's like the older sister I hope to be when my little sister comes of age.

Y'all do realize that I really seriously ginormously suck at dealing with compliments, right?

It's honestly just logic, born out of experience.

Is it possible to serve a Master and not love him? I wasn't expecting that to happen ( I was new to all this), but it was impossible to deny.

I know that some Masters will not allow themselves to fall in love with their subs.... but I think that would be difficult as well. The level of trust and commitment involved circumspects it.

I have two lovers [The Men™]. I've known one of them 2½ years; the other 1 year. I have never in my life felt this comfortable, safe, peaceful, understood, accepted, or supported as I do with The Men™. Each of them care deeply for me, and I them, but I've never said I love either of them, and neither of them have ever said they love me. We simply enjoy each other.

I had a relationship with one of The Men™ a few years ago. He warned me at the beginning to guard my heart, because if I fell in love with him I'd end up hurt. I didn't "fall in love with him", but there was a hell of a lot of New Relationship Energy swirling around. LOL And when he [unexpectedly] broke things off... it hurt. A lot.

When he came to me this summer, and we started talking about ways to explore the connection we still have, he made a point of saying he will be one of my staunchest supporters and best friends... but I have to own my own emotional shit. He was not willing to carry me, emotionally. I believe my response was something like "Good. By the way that means you are responsible for your own emotional shit, too." LOL

And now we have this mellow, comfortable, open ended, affectionate, free thinking, supportive somethingorother thing... although we care deeply for one another, and he freaked me out a little the other week by using the words "soul mate", we've never done the "ZOMG LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE" thing.

I don't have to love either of them to care enough to make their lives better [by my presence]. I don't have to love either of them to enjoy what we have. I don't have to love them to serve them. They're each interesting, entertaining, ethical, passionate, fascinating, [flawed] men... and dear friends. I trust them. I will [pretty literally] do anything either of them ask of me. Without question. I trust them; love has nothing to do with it.

 

[YourCaptor]

I'm a master with a hot female offering her body and for all other purposes her life. She wants me to love here so she is willing to submit to my whims.
But I feel that it is not quite what I want anyone else ever had these feelings?

To live is to evolve, you will change. Know what you want, what you need, and what you can do without.

 

[Loverskitten]

Maybe the OP loves a challenge, the chase... Most men love it.
I often wonder if "masters" get bored because it's too easy.
OP, find yourself a hot brat

 

[loneranger8921]

I worry about the damage I may cause my Sub. Should I just enjoy the power exchange and not worry about it>

 

[HottieMama]

I worry about the damage I may cause my Sub. Should I just enjoy the power exchange and not worry about it>

IMO, NO! Does she know you aren't in love with her? If not, you need to be honest and tell her.....like yesterday...

 

[Etoile]

I worry about the damage I may cause my Sub. Should I just enjoy the power exchange and not worry about it>

If you don't know the answer to this question already, you don't deserve to own someone.

 

[marieR19]

I worry about the damage I may cause my Sub. Should I just enjoy the power exchange and not worry about it>

You "worry about the damage" that may occur, but the immediately ask if you should just not worry about it? Sounds like you aren't worried ENOUGH.

As others have said, does she know where this relationship stands? Does she *know* that you don't feel the same way she does? Have you two ever talked about that? If you plan on "enjoying the power exchange" without making sure you two are on the same page, you are taking advantage of her and have *NO* right to call yourself a master.