Dominatrix

[GuiltyAsCharged]

Just read all this crap.

The OP said he was sorry how the post sounded so why brow beat the guy?

StellaOmega is the one I find more offensive. She dragged crap from the fetish forum over here to pick a fight. She forwarded a PM against the rules that obviously was insulting to the OP and then gets all hurt with righteous self indignation when the OP responds in kind.

Is this not why we have rules about forwarding PRIVATE MESSAGES?

So StellaOmega in my book is the true instigator here.

The OP is cocky and opinionated, so what, most of us are as much. I do not expect as much from a career jarhead like VBM. I read these forums a lot and I never have seen once that the VBM is mean spirited to anybody and he is very quick to apologize when he has been. More so than others. The only time I see VBM get mean is if he is attacked first.

I read the post over on the Fetish Forum and will say that VBM and StellaOmega are both right and wrong. I am a forensic psychiatrist and know Dr. Hicks personally as well as his work. We are colleagues though our expertise differ within the field.

Stella Omega you should of kept this crap in PMs or over at the Fetish thread instead of dragging it here in only what I can perceive as maliciousness.

VBM you need to soften your demeanor a bit so the overly sensitive don't get so worked up. I know tact is not necessarily a trait found in marines.

Both of you seem to be good people but today you FAIL.

 

[Stella_Omega]

the PM did not insult OP. It described his actions. OP responded with a string of words that have been used to belittle people like me since forever. I have a lot of scorn for anyone that considers insults of that nature to be a legitimate defense of a position.

"Cocky and opinionated" people with unexamined homophobic issues have no business blundering about in threads that deal with delicate matters of identity. You might say, people who post their issues in the Literotica forums should know better. But either that forum was created for those people, or else it was created for VBM to play the sneering voyeur.

And I happen to know for a fact that it was not created for VBM's pleasure.

 

[shy slave]

Just read all this crap.

The OP said he was sorry how the post sounded so why brow beat the guy?

StellaOmega is the one I find more offensive. She dragged crap from the fetish forum over here to pick a fight. She forwarded a PM against the rules that obviously was insulting to the OP and then gets all hurt with righteous self indignation when the OP responds in kind.

Is this not why we have rules about forwarding PRIVATE MESSAGES?

So StellaOmega in my book is the true instigator here.

The OP is cocky and opinionated, so what, most of us are as much. I do not expect as much from a career jarhead like VBM. I read these forums a lot and I never have seen once that the VBM is mean spirited to anybody and he is very quick to apologize when he has been. More so than others. The only time I see VBM get mean is if he is attacked first.

I read the post over on the Fetish Forum and will say that VBM and StellaOmega are both right and wrong. I am a forensic psychiatrist and know Dr. Hicks personally as well as his work. We are colleagues though our expertise differ within the field.

Stella Omega you should of kept this crap in PMs or over at the Fetish thread instead of dragging it here in only what I can perceive as maliciousness.

VBM you need to soften your demeanor a bit so the overly sensitive don't get so worked up. I know tact is not necessarily a trait found in marines.

Both of you seem to be good people but today you FAIL.

WTF!!

You think because you are a forensic psych it gives your the right (and ability) to analyse people on here?

Really, you should get out more.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

the PM did not insult OP. It described his actions. OP responded with a string of words that have been used to belittle people like me since forever. I have a lot of scorn for anyone that considers insults of that nature to be a legitimate defense of a position.

"Cocky and opinionated" people with unexamined homophobic issues have no business blundering about in threads that deal with delicate matters of identity. You might say, people who post their issues in the Literotica forums should know better. But either that forum was created for those people, or else it was created for VBM to play the sneering voyeur.

And I happen to know for a fact that it was not created for VBM's pleasure.

I called him coming to you a pansy and a crybaby and that has nothing to do with anybodies sexuality. To say I did anything other is a lie. Stella you and I may have different politics but I do not lie and I never thought you did.

Shame on you. Say what you will but you know the truth.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I called him coming to you a pansy and a crybaby and that has nothing to do with anybodies sexuality. To say I did anything other is a lie. Stella you and I may have different politics but I do not lie and I never thought you did.

Shame on you. Say what you will but you know the truth.

What i said is exactly the truth, and by your own witness.

What exactly does "pansy" mean to you? In my experience it's always meant a shamefully feminine man. And it is very specific that femininity is shameful and worth of insult.

What exactly does "crybaby" mean to you?

In my world, it's been applied to me when my inner turmoil has become a bit more than I can easily disguise.

Both of those words are vicious and appalling. You didn't know that?

I am an adult, not a baby, he is an adult, not a baby. he's disclosing some pretty dreadful changes that he's going through, and you can do no better than call him names for absolutely no reason then that you can post anywhere you want.

The question you need to ask yourself is; why would you want to post in that thread? and answer it -- before you post there again.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

What i said is exactly the truth, and by your own witness.

What exactly does "pansy" mean to you? In my experience it's always meant a shamefully feminine man. And it is very specific that femininity is shameful and worth of insult.

What exactly does "crybaby" mean to you?

In my world, it's been applied to me when my inner turmoil has become a bit more than I can easily disguise.

Both of those words are vicious and appalling. You didn't know that?

I am an adult, not a baby, he is an adult, not a baby. he's disclosing some pretty dreadful changes that he's going through, and you can do no better than call him names for absolutely no reason then that you can post anywhere you want.

The question you need to ask yourself is; why would you want to post in that thread? and answer it -- before you post there again.

Neither has nothing to do with sexuality. I think you are really over reacting. You on your period or what? You are really grasping at straws here.

I have reported you for forwarding PMs as well as divulging on the boards which is in violation. You have instigated this mess. There is a reason for the rules because of things like this. My post in the fetish forum was not hateful. As you said he is going through a lot of dreadful problems and as such has seriously overreacted to my post which is his problem. While I maybe sympathetic to him I still did nothing wrong there. Your ire in his behalf is misplaced.

Now I have been trying to be nice now I'm not.

Fuck off

 

[Stella_Omega]

Who's the crybaby now?

I haven't been on my period for eight years or more. Don't go scampering for excuses. You spoke your opinion as if it were facts, and left no room for the conversation you claim to want to have.

You used words which you think should not be insulting, and to your surprise-- someone was insulted.

You really need to get some knowledge in that head, dude. Opinions are not all alike, some of them are based on better information than others.

 

[CutieMouse]

Please for the love of god work on your written communication skills. Because the introductory post was nowhere near the subjects of A) implying discussion was desired, B) there was a question being asked, or C) that the actual subject at hand was the presumed dichotomy of "alpha males" and humiliation.

I have opinions/thoughts re: all of the above; however, will be away from the computer most of the day. I'll try to add a a few things this evening.

Mmmm... never mind.

 

[bhndblueyes88]

You on your period or what?

Wow because that's not horrifically sexist....

 

[Netzach]

Maledom

What the fuckity fuck is wrong with you people because I'd rather eat day old avocado out of my own butthole than take orders from someone with a cock.

But please, I'm trying to be educated so don't be insulted.

 

[Netzach]

And now, because I have nothing better to do with my time:

"Like many masculine straight males being unmanned is one of our biggest fears."

I just spent an afternoon being encouraged to do whatever I wanted to a very alpha masculine non-straight male who doesn't have that fear, who literally could give a flying fuck toward a rolling donut about whether he was being MANLY MAN or not in my eyes. Without this ability to chiilthefuckout and take "it" , it being me having my fun, I don't feel like I've got intimacy with a guy. At all.

What's the power position? Being afraid and defensive, or just being? To me, it's the latter.

Men who think that all passivity and receptivity is weakness simply refuse to see that crap that doesn't bend breaks.

Also: not all submissive males want to be humiliated any more than all submissive women want to be humiliated. News flash.

 

[CutieMouse]

What the fuckity fuck is wrong with you people because I'd rather eat day old avocado out of my own butthole than take orders from someone with a cock.

But please, I'm trying to be educated so don't be insulted.

And now, because I have nothing better to do with my time:

"Like many masculine straight males being unmanned is one of our biggest fears."

I just spent an afternoon being encouraged to do whatever I wanted to a very alpha masculine non-straight male who doesn't have that fear, who literally could give a flying fuck toward a rolling donut about whether he was being MANLY MAN or not in my eyes.

What's the power position? Being afraid and defensive, or just being? To me, it's the latter.

[hijack]

Don't mind me; I'm just Netz-stalking... nothing to see here. Carry on.

[/hijack]

 

[Stella_Omega]

damn I've missed you, Netzach.

 

[KoPilot]

You on your period or what?

We really need a man equivalent of this. Equally as offensive and ridiculous. Any ideas?

/puts on ignore

 

[Netzach]

We really need a man equivalent of this. Equally as offensive and ridiculous. Any ideas?

/puts on ignore

Brain poisoning by T has no major notable cycles.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

To whom it may Concern.


I apologize to this Forum as this shitfest was really none of your business but I did not bring it here. I will not apologize for my remarks as I do not give two shits who I offended in my fight with Stella to be honest.

When all said and done she violated that mans trust as well as the rules by forwarding his post. As such an esteemed long time poster she should know better I would think.

I am disappointed that Stella not only violated his trust but my trust and the rules again by making our PMs public as well as blowing it out of proportion in her slanderous out right distortion of the truth.

Since she seems to get a free pass at disclosing PMs I will too. The man in question sent me a PM apologizing for his kneejerk reaction and how he overreacted. I apologized for the misunderstanding. He also stated that after reading my post he did not think I was being malicious.

However, even after all this Stella refuses to admit she is wrong alluding to secret knowledge

Well that is all I have to say on this matter and after this I just do not give a fuck.

 

[Stella_Omega]

heh.it's so easy to read the exact record right here in this thead: I said there was a PM. I passed part of it on to you, minus any name.

You felt that what I passed on to you was insulting to you. You responded not by addressing the meat of his thoughts, but by calling the guy a string of names that were very offensive to me.

You proffered the insulting words to the public. They are right here in this thread-- You posted them. Not me.

I explained what makes them offensive-- one to gay men, the other to any thinking feeling adult. You want to deny the meanings of the words you used? Go for it. I can't stop you from denying nothing, of course.



The information about the numbers of way we can arrange sexual continuums isn't any sort of secret, by the way. Google is your friend.

 

[GuiltyAsCharged]

WTF!!

You think because you are a forensic psych it gives your the right (and ability) to analyse people on here?

Really, you should get out more.

So everybody can have an opinion but me yes? Kiss my ass. Pucker up and kiss it good little bitchgirl

 

[GuiltyAsCharged]

heh.it's so easy to read the exact record right here in this thead: I said there was a PM. I passed part of it on to you, minus any name.

You felt that what I passed on to you was insulting to you. You responded not by addressing the meat of his thoughts, but by calling the guy a string of names that were very offensive to me.

You proffered the insulting words to the public. They are right here in this thread-- You posted them. Not me.

I explained what makes them offensive-- one to gay men, the other to any thinking feeling adult. You want to deny the meanings of the words you used? Go for it. I can't stop you from denying nothing, of course.



The information about the numbers of way we can arrange sexual continuums isn't any sort of secret, by the way. Google is your friend.

So basically because you find it offensive and wish to distort the meaning everybody else has to Kowtow to your feelings. Guys call guys pansie and crybabies all the time honey and it has nothing to do with gay bi straight. Plenty of straight guys who are crybabies.

I really think you have issues with masculine men because deep down you are a tortured soul wishing you were a man. Did you not say you thought about having a sex change? You are easy enough to read as you jumped this guy for once expressing a heterosexual fantasy. I don't think he is as homophobic as you are heterophobic. You really need to step back and evauate yourself a bit. You are not as nice as you try to convey. I dont think VBM ever tried to pose as anything but a VeryBadMan, yes?

Okay Im done with thiis fiasco. Both of you acted badly IMO. But I do think you have unresolved issues with masculine men and need to get a grip or some help.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Wow, I am impressed! You really read me like... well, like a forensic psychologist.

What was the clue? Was it the mustache and beard I drew on my photo?

But I do have to argue one point. I don't really try to pretend that I am "nice." I try to be supportive, I try to remind people to look at themselves (and sometimes I forget to look at my own self) I try to amuse myself, I try to get laid.

Trying to convey "nice," though-- Not so high on the list. Not unless it gets me in her pants.

I have two questions. When you talk about distorting the meaning, I assume, of "pansy."

We do agree that it's an insult, I think. Can you please explain the meaning of the insult to me?

I certainly agree that straight men can be crybabies.

Oh, and-- what does "pucker up little bitchgirl" tell us about you?

 

[HottieMama]

Trying to convey "nice," though-- Not so high on the list. Not unless it gets me in her pants.

Is this why you are always so nice to me???

A girl can dream right?!?!?!?!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Is this why you are always so nice to me???

A girl can dream right?!?!?!?!

D'OH!

*puts hands over HottieMama's eyes so she can't read what I wrote anymore.*


its too late for that, isn't it?

 

[HottieMama]

D'OH!

*puts hands over HottieMama's eyes so she can't read what I wrote anymore.*


its too late for that, isn't it?

*gets mental picture of where the rest of you is if your hands are over my eyes...*

Must. Stop. Now.

 

[Stella_Omega]

*gets mental picture of where the rest of you is if your hands are over my eyes...*

Must. Stop. Now.

well, the rest of me is behind you.

My third hand is holding your wrists behind your back

My fourth hand is pinching a nipple.

My tail....

 

[HottieMama]

well, the rest of me is behind you.

My third hand is holding your wrists behind your back

My fourth hand is pinching a nipple.

My tail....

You know...it takes a lot to make me shut up...but that did it. I have no witty response....not even a semi-witty response...