Good Manners

[ownedsubgal]

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[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Since I'm all about learning to ignore annoyances today, D2MLG's also going on my vbulletin ignore list. But, hey, if you wanna trade insults feel free to PM me.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the crux of the problem.

Why do words on a screen elicit such a reaction? Why do osg's posts? Why is there "anger" towards them and her?

This is the internet people. The power does not lie in the writer. It lies in the reader. The weight of the words lie in the responses they create. The power or importance of those words come from the amount people willing to respond to them.

I'm sure you (general you) have some great answer for why you just HAVE to respond to her posts or someone else's. But when a complete stranger's words, that by all rights amount to a hill of beans, can elicit anger and outrage and hatred then maybe it's time to step away from the keyboard and go enjoy real life.

Peace and love to all.

 

[midwestyankee]

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the crux of the problem.

Why do words on a screen elicit such a reaction? Why do osg's posts? Why is there "anger" towards them and her?

This is the internet people. The power does not lie in the writer. It lies in the reader.

I'm sure you (general you) have some great answer for why you just HAVE to respond to her posts or someone else's. But when a complete stranger's words, that by all rights amount to a hill of beans, can elicit anger and outrage and hatred then maybe it's time to step away from the keyboard and go enjoy real life.

Peace and love to all.

In case you haven't noticed, all the people who post here - surprise, even you! - are actually real people. Living their lives, part of which includes dropping by here from time to time.

This. Is. Real. Life.

But if you choose to consider us all some kind of figment of your imagination, then more power to you.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I find her viewpoint horribly offensive, because, in pages past, she was basically saying "I kinda wish people like you didn't exist. And people like Netz. And Stella. And subbie men. And effeminate men." Etc. etc. etc.

i've never said anything of the sort, that's your own wild assumption based on my expression of a desire for a more welcoming world for people like me. and if you had been around long enough to have read my posts over the years, you would have known i've stated many times that i don't believe submissiveness is limited to females, or dominance to males, or that it even should be. you would also know of the immense respect i have for Netz, and how i find she has much in common with my own Master. and in this very thread i mentioned a high school friend who was a female who lived as a male...in my eyes, he was all man. beyond that he was among the few people who made that period of life bearable for me. but somehow you've gathered that i wish people like Stella and Netz, or submissive men didn't exist?

anywho, this is finis for me on this thread. there's just no point.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

In case you haven't noticed, all the people who post here - surprise, even you! - are actually real people. Living their lives, part of which includes dropping by here from time to time.

This. Is. Real. Life.

But if you choose to consider us all some kind of figment of your imagination, then more power to you.

Not at all.

But why would I let complete strangers elicit such a strong emotional reaction, when I can simply ignore them?

I don't doubt we are all "real people". But real is only as far as the words on the screen tell you. Anonymity on the internet can breed all kinds of wonderful lies and exaggerations.

 

[midwestyankee]

Not at all.

But why would I let complete strangers elicit such a strong emotional reaction, when I can simply ignore them?

I don't doubt we are all "real people". But real is only as far as the words on the screen tell you. Anonymity on the internet can breed all kinds of wonderful lies and exaggerations.

If I read an email from a friend that passes on troubling news, am I not allowed to feel compassion for him simply because I got the message as "words on the screen?"

What you're ignoring here is that many people who post here regularly have developed friendships over time and other kinds of relationships as well.

 

[Stella_Omega]

In case you haven't noticed, all the people who post here - surprise, even you! - are actually real people. Living their lives, part of which includes dropping by here from time to time.

This. Is. Real. Life.

But if you choose to consider us all some kind of figment of your imagination, then more power to you.

I always enjoy people who show up on the internet to point out to the people who talk on the internet that it's only the internet.

I don't doubt we are all "real people". But real is only as far as the words on the screen tell you. Anonymity on the internet can breed all kinds of wonderful lies and exaggerations.

Do you figure osg is lying about her life, then?

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

If I read an email from a friend that passes on troubling news, am I not allowed to feel compassion for him simply because I got the message as "words on the screen?"

What you're ignoring here is that many people who post here regularly have developed friendships over time and other kinds of relationships as well.

I am not talking about friends. I am talking about strangers. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are friends on here. But I doubt anyone that is "angered" by osg would consider her a friend. Thus, why get angry over "words on the screen"?

 

[midwestyankee]

I always enjoy people who show up on the internet to point out to the people who talk on the internet that it's only the internet.
Do you figure osg is lying about her life, then?

Hey, y'all....did you notice the sky was blue?

 

[00Syd]

I am not talking about friends. I am talking about strangers. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are friends on here. But I doubt anyone that is "angered" by osg would consider her a friend. Thus, why get angry over "words on the screen"?

Why get angry about an op ed in the newspaper? Why get angry about an interview in a magazine? Or a televised debate? Or a radio commentator?

Thank goodness I'm an automaton, and don't have to deal with all of those silly human responses to stimuli.

 

[midwestyankee]

Why get angry about an op ed in the newspaper? Why get angry about an interview in a magazine?

Thank goodness I'm an automaton, and don't have to deal with all of those silly human responses to stimuli.

And you're a beautiful automaton, too. But I'm sure this won't cause any reaction due to your most awesomest automatonness.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

I always enjoy people who show up on the internet to point out to the people who talk on the internet that it's only the internet.
Do you figure osg is lying about her life, then?

To be honest, I don't know or care enough to try and figure it out.

I respect everyone's right to live their life in whatever manner that makes them happiest. (as long as it's legal)

If her life is 100% bull, that's fine. If her life is 100% true, that's fine too. Either way does not affect me or my life.

 

[00Syd]

And you're a beautiful automaton, too. But I'm sure this won't cause any reaction due to your most awesomest automatonness.

Bleep bloop. Logic logic.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

Why get angry about an op ed in the newspaper? Why get angry about an interview in a magazine? Or a televised debate? Or a radio commentator?

Thank goodness I'm an automaton, and don't have to deal with all of those silly human responses to stimuli.

Which is better: talking about BDSM on here or hanging with your BDSM friends and going to munches?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I am not talking about friends. I am talking about strangers. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are friends on here. But I doubt anyone that is "angered" by osg would consider her a friend. Thus, why get angry over "words on the screen"?

These are definitely questions you should ponder.

The answers might surprise you.

I'll give you a hint; I, for one, don't consider osg a stranger.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

These are definitely questions you should ponder.

The answers might surprise you.

I'll give you a hint; I, for one, don't consider osg a stranger.

But do you consider her a friend?

 

[00Syd]

Which is better: talking about BDSM on here or hanging with your BDSM friends and going to munches?

1) This has nothing to do with the topic at hand (emotional reactions to posts on this forum)

2) However, I see what point you're trying to make. Not that it would be the most relevant point to make, due to #1.

3) They can't really be compared in terms of enjoyment because they serve two different purposes/fill two different needs in my life. And, luckily, I don't have to choose.

 

[Stella_Omega]

But do you consider her a friend?

You have the answer to that question. Use your noggin and figure it out.

By the way, do you know the difference between "anonymity" and "pseudonymity?"

 

[bhndblueyes88]

But do you consider her a friend?

Since when are responses based on some bi-polar determination between stranger and friend?

Friend=/=person you know

Friend=person you know, like, and feel is a good companion

So are you only allowed to respond to the words of friends? How do you wish one to respond to words typed out by someone who is neither a stranger nor a friend?


This is all horribly off topic from the OP, isn't it?

 

[00Syd]

Since when are responses based on some bi-polar determination between stranger and friend?

Friend=/=person you know

Friend=person you know, like, and feel is a good companion

So are you only allowed to respond to the words of friends? How do you wish one to respond to words typed out by someone who is neither a stranger nor a friend?


This is all horribly off topic from the OP, isn't it?

Expectations of the way people should respond to others based on their relationship with them could arguable considered manners. So, *shrug*

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

I'm not saying posts won't elicit emotional responses or that people should be robotic and not have any.

I'm just saying, what good comes from page after page of angry back and forth banter over one person's real or fake life.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

You have the answer to that question. Use your noggin and figure it out.

By the way, do you know the difference between "anonymity" and "pseudonymity?"

I believe I have a good idea as to your feelings about her.

I did not until I googled it. You are correct if you are saying pseudonymity is the better fit. Thank you.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm not saying posts won't elicit emotional responses or that people should be robotic and not have any.

I'm just saying, what good comes from page after page of angry back and forth banter over one person's real or fake life.

How many pages are you willing to invest in repeating yourself?

Just saying.

edit:

I believe I have a good idea as to your feelings about her.

Care to hazard a statement?

You can do it via PM if you think you might be embarrassingly wrong or something.

I did not until I googled it. You are correct if you are saying pseudonymity is the better fit. Thank you.

yeah, it's a really useful concept

 

[teknight]

I'm not saying posts won't elicit emotional responses or that people should be robotic and not have any.

I'm just saying, what good comes from page after page of angry back and forth banter over one person's real or fake life.

I'm just saying, what good comes from you insulting me from your position of benign detachment? Or were you not aware of what sort of reaction you'd elicit?
Fact is that this thread (and any other thread) is a form of dialog. It's a very specific and peculiar type of dialog, but, acting like an idiot and being difficult does not constitute a "proper" way to behave. But, hey, these are just words on a screen. I'm actually kinda curious to find out what'd push your buttons, just to help you understand some of our positions on here... I'm just trying to help, you understand.

 

[KoPilot]

I'm not saying posts won't elicit emotional responses or that people should be robotic and not have any.

I'm just saying, what good comes from page after page of angry back and forth banter over one person's real or fake life.

I know for me, it helps me sort out my own feelings about things, shed light on my own logic, and learn how to convey it in some kind of coherent manner.