OMG! Gays Can Marry Again In CA!

[3113]

The same Federal Judge who declared Proposition 8 unconstitutional eight days ago, just lifted the stay blocking legal same sex marriages from taking place in California. Judge Vaughn Walker, U.S. District Judge for The Northern District of California in San Francisco, just lifted the stay minutes ago. But same-sex marriages can't start until August 18th.

The news.

The actual order.

Edited to add:

Judge Vaughn Walker set the deadline Thursday to give gay marriage opponents time to appeal to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. If the appeals court fails to act by 5 p.m. local time next Wednesday, then gay marriages can go forward.

So the weddings might not start up again, as there will be an appeal, of course, and it might be granted. All the same....

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've had five phone calls already... I'm kinda overwhelmed, how about you?

 

[3113]

I've had five phone calls already... I'm kinda overwhelmed, how about you?

Me? I'm feeling like we just won a major victory in the revolutionary war!

http://files.fluctuat.net/images/g/a/gay-american-flag.jpg

And I'm gonna use this thread to celebrate! Yeah, everyone has to wait 7 days and who knows what'll happen in the end, but let's have ourselves a gay wedding

How do you like this cake?

http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/gay-wedding-cake.jpg

 

[Safe_Bet]

Yay! I know that my Suzy is raising one hell of a ruckus up in heaven right now. I'm sure that place is decked out in wall to wall rainbows!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Something tells me that the catering services in California are gonna clean up next Wednesday!

 

[DorlaMoorehouse]

I'm so happy! Yay!

 

[3113]

Amy!

Yay! I know that my Suzy is raising one hell of a ruckus up in heaven right now. I'm sure that place is decked out in wall to wall rainbows!

Amy, hey! How good of you to stop by! All our love to you and the girls.

I hope you and they will have a glorious celebration over this tonight. It's a wonderful thing to be able to teach children that there can be justice even against great odds.

 

[Wyldfire]

I'm already back logged on dresses and various tuxes and no end of other orders.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I might as well buy my own tux, with all the weddings in the coming months...

 

[rgraham666]

Great news.

 

[Athalia]

Great news.

I am so with you there! I'm pinching myself ... can this really be? Even if a higher court eventually throws it out, let us know that, for one brief space at least, love has triumphed over fear.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Not everyone is overjoyed by the extra waiting time.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/

The problem is, it's a set up so that the prop8 proponents can make another appeal-- Walker wants them to, because he says he has made such a strong case against them that he knows they'll fail.

Which is good for the future but rough on loving couples who have to live with the wait.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Not everyone is overjoyed by the extra waiting time.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/

The problem is, it's a set up so that the prop8 proponents can make another appeal-- Walker wants them to, because he says he has made such a strong case against them that he knows they'll fail.

Which is good for the future but rough on loving couples who have to live with the wait.

That's odd. They said they didn't get married two years ago because they didn't want to "rush things." Okay, but now they are getting pissed off about having to refrain from "rushing things" for another week.

 

[3113]

The problem is, it's a set up so that the prop8 proponents can make another appeal

Well, they'd appeal anyway. He could have let people marry in the interim and I don't know if I get his reasoning in not letting them do so, but at least he set a time limit on the appeal. He's forced the opposition to get in there and get it over with ASAP rather than making the appeal months from now and keeping this circus going.

Maybe that was his thinking?

However the appeal works out, we can celebrate the marvelous job both the case and the judge did in making clear the injustice of Prop. 8 and the unconstitutional nature of keeping gays from marrying.

 

[Liar]

I've had five phone calls already... I'm kinda overwhelmed, how about you?

Proposals, I assume?

 

[3113]

I might as well buy my own tux, with all the weddings in the coming months...

Go for a white one. I think you'd look stunning in a white one.

 

[TE999]

I'll bet city and county clerk's and JP's offices in Cali are hiring temps for next Wednesday.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That's odd. They said they didn't get married two years ago because they didn't want to "rush things." Okay, but now they are getting pissed off about having to refrain from "rushing things" for another week. eek:

They've had two years to think about it since then.

What kind of "rushing" is that?

 

[Liar]

They've had two years to think about it since then.

What kind of "rushing" is that?

Also, you never know how the appeals will go. It may still stumble on a conservactivist or two and fall on it's face. If this is a windw of opportunity, rushing is entirely appropriate.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Also, you never know how the appeals will go. It may still stumble on a conservactivist or two and fall on it's face. If this is a windw of opportunity, rushing is entirely appropriate.

Fuck yeah.

Damn Box, you don't even know the meaning of empathy, do you-- what the fuck happened to you? What a shitty thing to say!

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I say, let there be fireworks!


http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/1volupturary_manque/vancouver-fireworks.jpg


And fanfares!



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[Belegon]

The decisions are both easily available online. Both are, as Imp put it, the legal equivalent of a backhand to the face.

I mean, I can't remember ever seeing such strong positions from a judge in this kind of a case.

It's gonna take some pretty major turn around to win an appeal on this.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

To me, the ideal situation would be for both the Ninth and SCOTUS to simply refuse to review the decision. I believe in that case the decision would only apply to California. Of course, other states might refer to Judge Walker's decision in cases of their own but unless the Ninth rules on this one, it does not apply to the other states in the district.

I know that sounds less than approving but believe me, I'd rather see same sex unions stay firmly approved in California than risk losing that so as to get a wider ruling at this time.

I know, for a bear, I'm a big chicken, okay? I've got a yellow streak down my back so bright it looks like the sun in my pants.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Fuck yeah.

Damn Box, you don't even know the meaning of empathy, do you-- what the fuck happened to you? What a shitty thing to say!

Oh, come on. After waiting two years, especially when they could have gotten married two years ago, what's another week? Most engagements are longer than that.

And I can sympathize with them for having had to wait this long, but I still think another week is no big deal, especially when they are already living together, which I presume they are.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Well, they'd appeal anyway. He could have let people marry in the interim and I don't know if I get his reasoning in not letting them do so, but at least he set a time limit on the appeal. He's forced the opposition to get in there and get it over with ASAP rather than making the appeal months from now and keeping this circus going.

Maybe that was his thinking?

However the appeal works out, we can celebrate the marvelous job both the case and the judge did in making clear the injustice of Prop. 8 and the unconstitutional nature of keeping gays from marrying.

What I find to be terrifically funny is that, now that the Attorney General and Governor of California have publically stated that they WON'T appeal the decision, the fundies, fascists and homophobes may not have standing to appeal the decision.

"It appears at least doubtful, that proponents will be able to proceed with their appeal without a state defendant."
Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker

I also am kind of amazed that they are all calling him one of those liberal, activist judges... especially considering that he was nominated by Saint Ronald Regan and that his nomination was confirmed under Bush senior.