Warning Signs of a Batshit Insane Submissive

[CutieMouse]

haha, omg, yes. I am often confidante to fine young men who like to beat girls up as much as I do. "Batshit insane" may not be "danger, you may be cut into small pieces" but it can really ruin sex relationships and SM for someone. I think the "bad submissive" thing is seriously overdue for being addressed as fully in the noob literature.

Netz made this comment on another thread, and it got me to thinking that there are a million and one posts/threads/books/articles/etc on the dangers of a bad dominant, but she's is right - I'm not sure I've ever seen anything on the risks of getting involved with a bad submissive...

Any thoughts on the topic?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Doesn't help with the all-important goal of flattering females.

 

[MisterSir]

A name with "velvet" or "darkness" in it is a good start.

 

[pellso27]

They go on literotica looking for a Master!

 

[CutieMouse]

Doesn't help with the all-important goal of flattering females.

Hmmm... good point. I suppose there probably is a point at which the quality of oral worship overcomes the whole batshit crazy thing...

A name with "velvet" or "darkness" in it is a good start.

*Takes notes*

They go on literotica looking for a Master!

Good poin... wait. I did that once a few years ago. Hm... Carry on!

 

[ownedsubgal]

they join collarme or fet after not having any luck on eharmony.

 

[chy_girl]

they join collarme or fet after not having any luck on eharmony.

What about the one's that skip eharmony?

 

[ownedsubgal]

What about the one's that skip eharmony?

that's a good sign.

 

[chy_girl]

that's a good sign.

That's good. I can bring my fetlife profile back out now.

 

[MasterPhoenix]

Oh wow... this one is a loaded question...

I think that it is hard to answer this with any regularity, because your batshit crazy and my batshit crazy may be two completely different things.

Some would say the completion of OSG's submission would make her batshit crazy, whilst others may think that BiBunny's rebellious spirit would make her batshit crazy. (No offense to either of you ladies, I was looking for a study in contrasts, and don't think either of you are batshit crazy.)

However, if you are looking for trouble signs, I would say that one thing to look for is consistency. Do their stories/ desires/ personalities change at a moment's notice or are they consistent? Do they listen and try to understand when you explain something, or do they think they know it, or try to ignore the parts they don't like?

This is a very good topic, and one that is rather original. Get the wrong batshit crazy so-called submissive, and a DNA sample combined with bruises (That were consensual at the time) and a Dominant can be trapped with some prison time. (Yeah, good luck with the "Yes, she really wanted it" defense.)

I look forward to seeing how this one will evolve.

 

[Netzach]

Doesn't help with the all-important goal of flattering females.

Um not all....blah blah you know.


I would say the perils of involvement with a person who flags submissive but is in fact also some variety of toxic is that they will kill the confidence that is integral to your functioning as a Dominant person. You find yourself assuming it's you (because if you're a control freak by nature of COURSE it's you) when things don't work.

You can be emotionally and mentally abused without clearly identifying it or getting any support for same because, duh, everyone knows that submissives can't be abusive.

 

[intothewoods]

Someone without boundaries. A person who has had a string of relationships in a very short time frame, and falls in love with the drop of a hat. Temper tantrums as conflict resolution. Just to name a few...

 

[rosco rathbone]

Um not all....blah blah you know.


I would say the perils of involvement with a person who flags submissive but is in fact also some variety of toxic is that they will kill the confidence that is integral to your functioning as a Dominant person. You find yourself assuming it's you (because if you're a control freak by nature of COURSE it's you) when things don't work.

You can be emotionally and mentally abused without clearly identifying it or getting any support for same because, duh, everyone knows that submissives can't be abusive.

Achieving the delicate balance between "I'm an control freak" and "this shit is all your fault" has been my life's work.

 

[JMohegan]

Doesn't help with the all-important goal of flattering females.

And makes it difficult to fetishize vulnerable sub-frenzied females, in desperate need of a white knight D.

The poor little things.

 

[bambikiller]

I dated one.
One of the kinkyest girls I ever dated.
I think she was a compulesive lier.
Wacked out stories.
She claimed she was raped and the people were still after her.
Of course I wanted to protect her.
It just got wierder and weirder untill your common sense kicks in and I started to figure out that her shit just didn't add up.
But how did the bruses and cuts get there.
I think she was doing some real hard core shit with someone else or she did it her self.
The wacky ones fun but they will fuck up your brain.

 

[JMohegan]

Someone without boundaries. A person who has had a string of relationships in a very short time frame, and falls in love with the drop of a hat. Temper tantrums as conflict resolution. Just to name a few...

No, no, no, no.

For god's sake woman, haven't you read all the Sub Frenzy threads? None of this is her fault!

 

[intothewoods]

No, no, no, no.

For god's sake woman, haven't you read all the Sub Frenzy threads? None of this is her fault!

Ha. I think I only post in those when I'm feeling especially masochistic.

 

[CutieMouse]

No, no, no, no.

For god's sake woman, haven't you read all the Sub Frenzy threads? None of this is her fault!

You made me choke on my wine. Bad JM! BAD!

 

[JMohegan]

Ha. I think I only post in those when I'm feeling especially masochistic.

I could link to one now, if you're in the mood.

Seriously, though, there's a marked similarity between your list here and the alleged symptoms of sub frenzy. All kidding aside, I do think that a significant chunk of the culture (especially online) loves to fetishize the notion of the vulnerable female needing the TRUE D to ride in and protect her.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I dated one.
One of the kinkyest girls I ever dated.
I think she was a compulesive lier.
Wacked out stories.
She claimed she was raped and the people were still after her.
Of course I wanted to protect her.
It just got wierder and weirder untill your common sense kicks in and I started to figure out that her shit just didn't add up.
But how did the bruses and cuts get there.
I think she was doing some real hard core shit with someone else or she did it her self.
The wacky ones fun but they will fuck up your brain.

BPD 101

Welcome to BDSM.

 

[pellso27]

Taco's with mustard! enough said

 

[intothewoods]

You made me choke on my wine. Bad JM! BAD!

Tee hee.

I could link to one now, if you're in the mood.

Seriously, though, there's a marked similarity between your list here and the alleged symptoms of sub frenzy. All kidding aside, I do think that a significant chunk of the culture (especially online) loves to fetishize the notion of the vulnerable female needing the TRUE D to ride in and protect her.

Primarily online, thank goodness. At least that's been my experience.

 

[Kajira Callista]

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[Kajira Callista]

I've been saying this for years. The big bad doms hurt the poor widdle subbie and everyone runs to stand by their side.
What about the poor ol' dom who doesnt know what hit him and is trying to get back up on his feet with some class?

 

[BiBunny]

The best warning sign is that she uses "Bunny" somewhere in her screen name.