Resistance questions

[Adakgirl]

I am talking about resistance in play, even to to point of calling your PLY bad names, fighting back, kicking, struggling, seriously attempting to escape.
To some PLY's these things can be quite a turn-on, to others these things can be a reason to stop play immediately.
I know that everyone is different depending on their situation but I am curious about this topic. Here are a few of the questions I have.

Do you resist your PLY at times because you know that some resistance pleases your PLY? But you would never do so on your own?

Do you never resist at all because any resistance on your part is unacceptable to your PLY?

Do you resist sometimes of your own accord because your PLY has really pissed you off?

How much resistance can you show without crossing the line into defiance? Are Defiance and resistance basically the same thing?

 

[myinnerslut]

i like struggling and fighting back, but not in sexual play. more in "wrestling". (quotes becuase any time he really wanted to, Master could flip me over, pin me down, and i couldnt do a thing about it). we dont do it often, but every time we do, we are laughing uncontrollably and having a good ol time.

its plain and simple fun.

the idea of fighting back in sexual context (without it being a non-consent scene to begin with) just doesnt make sense to me. for one, i want him to fuck me. it feels really good, on many levels. also, he is my Master, and he wants to fuck me. why would i run? why would i fight? why would i struggle?

the idea just doesnt sit well with me.

 

[ownedsubgal]

Do you never resist at all because any resistance on your part is unacceptable to your PLY?

bingo. i never or would never resist my Master in any manner, in any situation. to do so would be absolutely unacceptable.

 

[Adakgirl]

Not all sexual play involves fucking...but of course it might for you so I get what you are saying innerslut.

 

[myinnerslut]

Not all sexual play involves fucking...but of course it might for you so I get what you are saying innerslut.

not all sexual play involves fucking. but my opinion holds true for other kinds as well. it is fulfilling, rewarding, and often physically pleasurable to play with my Master, in all ways. and like before, if he wants it, why would i struggle against it?

i do understand struggle as part of a non consent scene. i do understand embarrassment and turning your head away. i understand fear. i do not understand actually fighting him and what he wants to do.

 

[ecstaticsub]

Do you never resist at all because any resistance on your part is unacceptable to your PLY?

Any serious resistance woul be totally unacceptable.

Do you resist sometimes of your own accord because your PLY has really pissed you off?


Hell, no!! This would be practically a deal breaker for our relationship. And really, I enjoy the submissive feeling that comes out of situations like this. If for whatever reason I am angry or upset with him surrender and give in to him anyway it is even more emotionally changed and satisfying session for both of us.


Now, there are some times that we will just roll around in bed and be playful, but that's totally different.

Besides, Resistance is futile.

 

[myinnerslut]

Besides, Resistance is futile.

prepare to be assimilated!

 

[the captians wench]

I"m not a fighter. I push myself hard because of this fact.

I have had play mates who became irritated because I refused to fight back. They didn't last long.

Now I have released a string of curses while trying to keep from calling my safeword and ending a scene. This is when I would be reminded "That hurts you sadistic fuck" was a complement and not a safe word. Of course Jounar just laughs at my little curses and pays little more attention to them than the chuckle.

 

[myinnerslut]

Now I have released a string of curses while trying to keep from calling my safeword and ending a scene. This is when I would be reminded "That hurts you sadistic fuck" was a complement and not a safe word.

at a play party, i once yelled out "motherFUCKER!!!" when hit with a specific blue whip. that got a chuckle as well.

ETA: this type. not necessarily from this site though. nasty nylon singletail hurt like a bitch!
http://www.coyotewhips.com/

 

[HarlotMinx]

Interesting subject, mind if I ask what prompted it? As to my own relationship, Moon and I can get into fairly physical resistance. I have a mentality where I love to be beaten (as in physically or mentally bested... though the other definition is fine too), it's an extreme turn on but if have to give in to them in order for them to gain control... eh it looses all attraction. For me it's probably most closely associated to what you'd see with dogs when they establish dominance. I have no actual interest in dominating or in any way controlling the situation but I have a need for that physical show of dominance. It's actually not uncommon from Moon to grab my hair and yank me down to my belly or pin me to a wall in a choke hold, at times in public. I wouldn't classify it as challenging her but rather it just stems from a deep need for physical displays of dominance.

There's a funny story relating to this, Moon once completely mummified me neck down in saran wrap because I wouldn't stop squirming during a scene. Well the second she walked out of the room to prepare some toys, I'd rolled off the bed and started hopping naked and bound to the front door. When she found me I was at the front door trying to undo the lock with my mouth. I don't think I've ever seen her laugh so hard.... thing is if I could have, I'd have hopped right outside still nude.

Do you resist sometimes of your own accord because your PLY has really pissed you off?

I'm a little confused by this question. Do you mean, resisting in play? I only ask because I'm not sure why a person would be playing or be doing anything with their PYL if they're mad at them.

-poppet

 

[HarlotMinx]

Do you never resist at all because any resistance on your part is unacceptable to your PLY?

Any serious resistance woul be totally unacceptable.

Sigh, that's one of the issues I've had. Most Dom/mes I've had expect me to never raise a finger in resistance... but I have no qualms about pinning a dom/me down and nibbling on them. Unfortunately I've been told that I must be a bottom, a switch, or that I TFB because of that. It's kind of annoying because I am obedient, I don't like arguing, really work my best under strict guidance and plans... it's just that I adore being put in my place. I guess if anything this might make me sammy... but that's it.

 

[intothewoods]

I am talking about resistance in play, even to to point of calling your PLY bad names, fighting back, kicking, struggling, seriously attempting to escape.
To some PLY's these things can be quite a turn-on, to others these things can be a reason to stop play immediately.
I know that everyone is different depending on their situation but I am curious about this topic. Here are a few of the questions I have.

Do you resist your PLY at times because you know that some resistance pleases your PLY? But you would never do so on your own?

Do you never resist at all because any resistance on your part is unacceptable to your PLY?

Do you resist sometimes of your own accord because your PLY has really pissed you off?

How much resistance can you show without crossing the line into defiance? Are Defiance and resistance basically the same thing?

Some people get into overpowering their bottom. It's not really a thing for us. I've had some casual play scenes where I've done a lot of banter and talking back, but not so much physical resistance. I'm more of an endurance girl. I want to be able to go the distance.

 

[the_pet]

my PYL loves my submission but he also likes to see me struggle, suffer, beg, resist, protest (to a point) all in fun

 

[Homburg]

at a play party, i once yelled out "motherFUCKER!!!" when hit with a specific blue whip. that got a chuckle as well.

ETA: this type. not necessarily from this site though. nasty nylon singletail hurt like a bitch!
http://www.coyotewhips.com/

It actually was a whip from that site.

I want one.

 

[Netzach]

Not my gig with T. If I want to take charge, I do. He doesn't have the angry fightfuck in him at all - his brain compartments these things so totally that fight is a limp dick.

I like the feeling of knowing my wrists are pinned by him or something like that, but I run towards, not away from, or there's no hope whatsoever of getting what I actually need out of the interaction.

Resistance play only works for me in proportion to femme quotient. Feisty femme works, and I have no tolerance for the boys and butches dicking around. Sorry, there it is. Life's not fair.

 

[Recidiva]

When I drink I have two states, kinda tipsy or throwing up. I don't have all the other stages of drunk other people describe. I don't really have a dial, I have a switch. On/off. Same with this. I don't think real resistance is in me. Fun/not fun. I'll either have fun or stop it, or worst case, reflexively try to kill someone, and that'd be bad. Not interested in seeing if there are other stages in between, any more than I'd like to find out what it'd be like to black out or make a fool of myself while drunk. Too many effective fight reflexes not in my control because they're habit. If my brain decides it's time to break someone's nose, the nose is broken before I say "Oh, but I like this person."

 

[lilylicious]

There's a funny story relating to this, Moon once completely mummified me neck down in saran wrap because I wouldn't stop squirming during a scene. Well the second she walked out of the room to prepare some toys, I'd rolled off the bed and started hopping naked and bound to the front door. When she found me I was at the front door trying to undo the lock with my mouth. I don't think I've ever seen her laugh so hard.... thing is if I could have, I'd have hopped right outside still nude.

ROFLMAO!!! OMG the mental picture I have of your in saran wrap trying to unlock the door with your mouth!!!

To the OP: I don't mind some hesitance, but if I get any sense that a sub really wants to be forced, and I've found they will at least hint at that upfront, I tell them they need to find someone else. Of course it's a little different when you're Dominating someone who can easily overpower you, too.

Having a very young, very willful child makes me less tolerant of trying to force an adult into doing what they don't want. Maybe that's a bad comparison, but it is what it is.

That said, the resistance I sense from the hesitance in a sub makes it all that much hotter when they do as I ask.

 

[the captians wench]

When I drink I have two states, kinda tipsy or throwing up. I don't have all the other stages of drunk other people describe. I don't really have a dial, I have a switch. On/off. Same with this. I don't think real resistance is in me. Fun/not fun. I'll either have fun or stop it, or worst case, reflexively try to kill someone, and that'd be bad. Not interested in seeing if there are other stages in between, any more than I'd like to find out what it'd be like to black out or make a fool of myself while drunk. Too many effective fight reflexes not in my control because they're habit. If my brain decides it's time to break someone's nose, the nose is broken before I say "Oh, but I like this person."

Now get a couple drinks in me and I can get agressive, but only to the point where I seek out what I want. Once I got you all wound up and trying to rip my clothes off, all sense of fight evaporates.

 

[Recidiva]

Now get a couple drinks in me and I can get agressive, but only to the point where I seek out what I want. Once I got you all wound up and trying to rip my clothes off, all sense of fight evaporates.

LOL! Yeah, I get that people have shades of behavior that I do not.

I tend to be on/off. Either no middle ground or no interest in teasing those zones out from the others.

I echo lilylicious's bit about having kids making this a turn off.

My son's autistic, I'm not about to romanticize resistance, I guess.

 

[myinnerslut]

thinking about it more, there is one time when i fight back, though its more of an instinctive reaction then a planned one, and not sexual.

i HATE being tickled. my reaction is to lash out as much as i can to get away. i almost broke my ex's nose, and have kicked Master in some very unpleasant places. each time this happens i am beyond sorry as soon as its over, apologizing like crazy, and feel awful, but it is a time i fight back.

 

[Recidiva]

thinking about it more, there is one time when i fight back, though its more of an instinctive reaction then a planned one, and not sexual.

i HATE being tickled. my reaction is to lash out as much as i can to get away. i almost broke my ex's nose, and have kicked Master in some very unpleasant places. each time this happens i am beyond sorry as soon as its over, apologizing like crazy, and feel awful, but it is a time i fight back.

EXACTLY. That's a breaking nose offense. My husband can do it just right, so he doesn't make my switch flip.

But other people are in bone-breaking territory if they attempt it.

 

[Homburg]

He doesn't have the angry fightfuck in him at all - his brain compartments these things so totally that fight is a limp dick.

PRetty much my issue as well. Ye olde consensual non-consent scenes are very much not my bag as a result.

 

[Netzach]

When I drink I have two states, kinda tipsy or throwing up. I don't have all the other stages of drunk other people describe. I don't really have a dial, I have a switch. On/off. Same with this. I don't think real resistance is in me. Fun/not fun. I'll either have fun or stop it, or worst case, reflexively try to kill someone, and that'd be bad. Not interested in seeing if there are other stages in between, any more than I'd like to find out what it'd be like to black out or make a fool of myself while drunk. Too many effective fight reflexes not in my control because they're habit. If my brain decides it's time to break someone's nose, the nose is broken before I say "Oh, but I like this person."

That's a good way to put it. The on/off switch is the person, not whether I'm turned on or in any special mood or anything.

 

[Netzach]

thinking about it more, there is one time when i fight back, though its more of an instinctive reaction then a planned one, and not sexual.

i HATE being tickled. my reaction is to lash out as much as i can to get away. i almost broke my ex's nose, and have kicked Master in some very unpleasant places. each time this happens i am beyond sorry as soon as its over, apologizing like crazy, and feel awful, but it is a time i fight back.

Good point. Tickle, ice, and I warn people I am not responsible for what you get. Interestingly it's M who likes to fuck with my tickling tolerance, probably due to marital familiarity much as anything and he's gotten kneed in the face.

 

[Netzach]

PRetty much my issue as well. Ye olde consensual non-consent scenes are very much not my bag as a result.

Is this an MA thing, where if you fight it's at least partly for real and very not sexual?