Self Defense

[Miss_B_Haven]

I've been watching a story on my local news... A 26 year old runner went missing last night in a park very near my apartment. Her body was found behind the post office, which I can see from my bedroom window. A little too close for my comfort.

I have a little mace keychain, always have my cell in my pocket, and usually walk to my car with my keys laced between fingers. I always walk to my car with someone, I never go for runs around outside without people with me... The only place I go to work out is the gym. I walk my dogs inside my apartment complex, and always in daylight hours.

Aside from learning jiu-jitsu, what else can I do to keep myself safe? My mother suggested an air horn... But that seems like it would be a bit bulky to carry around everywhere.

The full story:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/p...=14&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

 

[TurdFergeson]

carry a snub nose .38 in your purse?

 

[Songcatcher]

Use your seal fangs.

 

[marshalt]

gun...

 

[richard_daily]

small frame .25 auto. Very little kick, some are small enough to put in a large coin purse.

 

[Lost Cause]

Other than a firearm..

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[cutebrowngirl]

You are doing everything right. The only other addition you could get might be a taser. I am thinking about getting one myself. I had a keychain alarm but the batteries died out way too fast. I have keychain mase too but I am seriously considering upgrading to this so-called fbi grade mase. It's supposed to be extra strong and shows under black light. Way easier to pick out of a lineup.

 

[Guest]

You are doing everything right. The only other addition you could get might be a taser. I am thinking about getting one myself. I had a keychain alarm but the batteries died out way too fast. I have keychain mase too but I am seriously considering upgrading to this so-called fbi grade mase. It's supposed to be extra strong and shows under black light. Way easier to pick out of a lineup.

Yanno, I've never heard of such a product, but I like the idea! You know, I found a mace company online who will send you a free replacement for your spray if you send them a copy of the police report in which it was used.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

I've been watching a story on my local news... A 26 year old runner went missing last night in a park very near my apartment. Her body was found behind the post office, which I can see from my bedroom window. A little too close for my comfort.

I have a little mace keychain, always have my cell in my pocket, and usually walk to my car with my keys laced between fingers. I always walk to my car with someone, I never go for runs around outside without people with me... The only place I go to work out is the gym. I walk my dogs inside my apartment complex, and always in daylight hours.

Aside from learning jiu-jitsu, what else can I do to keep myself safe? My mother suggested an air horn... But that seems like it would be a bit bulky to carry around everywhere.

The full story:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/p...=14&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Learn Hapkido. You'll learn all basic strikes and kicks as well some more advanced kicks and more importantly, Yudo (just like Judo) as well as probably the most important part of all, armlocks and wristlocks.

 

[SusyQ]

I read someplace that you shouldn't listen to headphones while running because it makes you more vulnerable...

It makes sense, but it also sucks.

 

[Lost Cause]

Get one thing straight in your mind- someone that attacks you may well be out to kill you and use any force necessary to accomplish that aim.

Now you have to ask yourself, how far will I protect myself to live?

If you decide, you have to commit to whatever lethal means you pick. it's not a game of bluff or simply spraying an annoying insect.

Its about how much you want to live and maybe (up to the perp) survive a situation?

http://www.defendingwomen.com/forum/item/70

http://www.defendingwomen.com/forum/media/1/20080508-stungun_blastknuckles-2.jpg

http://www.corneredcat.com/Mindset/attitude.aspx

http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/

 

[BoomerP]

carry a snub nose .38 in your purse?

Honestly I think a gun is gonna get yourself shot or the wrong person shot awhole lot faster then anything else

 

[Thunderbear]

Learn Hapkido. You'll learn all basic strikes and kicks as well some more advanced kicks and more importantly, Yudo (just like Judo) as well as probably the most important part of all, armlocks and wristlocks.

She's practicing extreme situational awareness, which, by its very nature, means avoiding such confrontations... not seeking them out, which requires physical contact that women are, by genetics, at a disadvantage to men. I agree with you that such knowledge will be useful, but to initiate physical contact with a man in an assault situation skips a few very useful steps in the force continuum.

The objective is to maintain distance between you and your attacker. Mace, pepper foam, pepper gel, tasers, and firearms all allow you to maintain that distance. The problem with mace/pepper spray is, that you usually do not get attacked indoors, ergo, you have to deal with wind. If you spray that man upwind, how do you intend to deal with the blowback? Pepper gels and pepper foams address this, but both of their aim is also affected by wind. Tasers are an effective deterrent when deployed correctly, but clothing, aim, and reloading are all factors that make relying on it as a self defense weapon less than ideal. Firearms. Many women dislike them, on principle. Understandable, as they have been used for many horrible acts. But history aside, firearms are an equalizing force for women, leveling the combat field between male and female. The training curve is a bit steeper, the dangers greater, but women generally end up outshooting the men that introduce them to firearms. Modern handguns have advanced to the point that some are lighter than cellphones. Viable defensive calibers are available in ultralight ( and ultrapainful) handguns.

The main point is, whatever you trust for self defense, train with it, seek out people to learn from in using and deploying it under duress, so you react by instinct, should you be accosted.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

Honestly I think a gun is gonna get yourself shot or the wrong person shot awhole lot faster then anything else

I would agree. If you're talking about self-defense while jogging then a gun probably isn't going to be useful because you must assume you'll be the one surprised and close action contact will happen near immediately. If you're talking about home defense then it's either a shotgun (as the cocking sound alone is enough to scare off most home invaders) or a handgun with a touch trigger laser pointer (NOTHING will stop you like that little red light on your chest).

If you want defense while jogging then learning jiu-jitsu and hapkido will make you a VERY dangerous person. Nowadays though, there are plenty of mixed martial arts places and that's what I would look for. Both stand up combat and take down combat.

You know both and you're going to be a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Weird Harold]

I've been watching a story on my local news... A 26 year old runner went missing last night in a park very near my apartment. Her body was found behind the post office, which I can see from my bedroom window. A little too close for my comfort.

I have a little mace keychain, always have my cell in my pocket, and usually walk to my car with my keys laced between fingers. I always walk to my car with someone, I never go for runs around outside without people with me... The only place I go to work out is the gym. I walk my dogs inside my apartment complex, and always in daylight hours.

Aside from learning jiu-jitsu, what else can I do to keep myself safe? My mother suggested an air horn... But that seems like it would be a bit bulky to carry around everywhere.

The full story:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/p...=14&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Radio Shack carries (or at least used to carry) a Personal Alarm system that is about the size of a remote control. The mode most useful to your concerns is the pull-tab that sets off the 100 decibel alarm which will continue to sound until the battery runs down or the tab is reinserted.

I took mine out into the desert where it wouldn't bother anyone and let it run down a battery -- it took four hours!

It has other modes, like a panic button to sound the alarm as long as you hold the button down, and a motion sensing mode for protecting unattended purses/backpacks, or hanging on motel room door as an entry alarm.

It is as lound as a typical car alarm, and I suppose it would generate about as much response as a typical car alarm, but it should deter someone who doesn't want to attract any attention.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

She's practicing extreme situational awareness, which, by its very nature, means avoiding such confrontations... not seeking them out, which requires physical contact that women are, by genetics, at a disadvantage to men. I agree with you that such knowledge will be useful, but to initiate physical contact with a man in an assault situation skips a few very useful steps in the force continuum.

The objective is to maintain distance between you and your attacker. Mace, pepper foam, pepper gel, tasers, and firearms all allow you to maintain that distance. The problem with mace/pepper spray is, that you usually do not get attacked indoors, ergo, you have to deal with wind. If you spray that man upwind, how do you intend to deal with the blowback? Pepper gels and pepper foams address this, but both of their aim is also affected by wind. Tasers are an effective deterrent when deployed correctly, but clothing, aim, and reloading are all factors that make relying on it as a self defense weapon less than ideal. Firearms. Many women dislike them, on principle. Understandable, as they have been used for many horrible acts. But history aside, firearms are an equalizing force for women, leveling the combat field between male and female. The training curve is a bit steeper, the dangers greater, but women generally end up outshooting the men that introduce them to firearms. Modern handguns have advanced to the point that some are lighter than cellphones. Viable defensive calibers are available in ultralight ( and ultrapainful) handguns.

The main point is, whatever you trust for self defense, train with it, seek out people to learn from in using and deploying it under duress, so you react by instinct, should you be accosted.

Well if someone attacks you while you're jogging you have to assume they will take you unawares (like from bushes or something) and therefore you'll have to go to ground and pound. She already said excepting jiu-jitsu so I'm thinking you've got out of the ground and pound and now have to worry about straight up face to face. Now if you bring a gun there's a good chance the attacker could grab it and it use it against you. If you know how to defend from the stand up though I think that would be a better defense.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Honestly I think a gun is gonna get yourself shot or the wrong person shot awhole lot faster then anything else

Honestly better than the alternative of getting killed by some psycho.

 

[TurdFergeson]

I would agree. If you're talking about self-defense while jogging then a gun probably isn't going to be useful because you must assume you'll be the one surprised and close action contact will happen near immediately. If you're talking about home defense then it's either a shotgun (as the cocking sound alone is enough to scare off most home invaders) or a handgun with a touch trigger laser pointer (NOTHING will stop you like that little red light on your chest).

If you want defense while jogging then learning jiu-jitsu and hapkido will make you a VERY dangerous person. Nowadays though, there are plenty of mixed martial arts places and that's what I would look for. Both stand up combat and take down combat.

You know both and you're going to be a force to be reckoned with.

I imagine being attacked by a wild dog.

Sure, you could kick it really hard in the nose, but that might just piss it off.

 

[Diablo_Canadien]

Or you could just move somewhere where you feel safer. If you need to take that many precautions to feel safe...then it's time for a change of locals

 

[MechaBlade]

http://www.defendingwomen.com/forum/media/1/20080508-stungun_blastknuckles-2.jpg

Electroknuckles. I want that.

 

[Bohemian Blue]

I imagine being attacked by a wild dog.

Sure, you could kick it really hard in the nose, but that might just piss it off.

Actually no, dogs are extremely sensitive in their noses. A strong kick or punch will disable (at least temporarily) the dog from doing much at all.

 

[BoomerP]

Honestly better than the alternative of getting killed by some psycho.

But just having a gun puts you in alot more danger then if you didn't have one. The robber or psycho before just wanted to rob or rape you but now his life is in danger and he's more likely to shoot or stab you.

Like the second you pull a gun up one of you could die now. And if you didn't it's very doubtfull he would do such a thing. He just wants money or something.

Self defence thats aimed at just capasitating him isn't going to make him want to kill you. Like a stun gun or some martial art

 

[pointless]

carry a snub nose .38 in your purse?

who would fucking take their purse with them while running?

 

[TurdFergeson]

who would fucking take their purse with them while running?

The original poster didn't say they wanted protection specifically for going out fucking running.

They said they wanted to feel safe because a murder happened nearby.

 

[TurdFergeson]

But just having a gun puts you in alot more danger then if you didn't have one. The robber or psycho before just wanted to rob or rape you but now his life is in danger and he's more likely to shoot or stab you.

Like the second you pull a gun up one of you could die now. And if you didn't it's very doubtfull he would do such a thing. He just wants money or something.

Self defence thats aimed at just capasitating him isn't going to make him want to kill you. Like a stun gun or some martial art

Too bad in the example mentioned the victims were killed dead.

If the girl would have had a gun, she would probably still be alive.

Also, the statistics don't jive with your assumptions.

People who carry guns are actually far less likely to be shot or stabbed.