Vaginal Fisting

[c_s_s]

After several attempts and different positions we are both frustrated that we can't manage to get his hand all the way in. Seems that his knuckles hit my public bone. Can anyone offer suggestions on a better position? We've tried me on my back with him between my legs, legs pulled up, legs pulled up with a pillow under my ass, on knees with ass in the air, and chest pushed down....

Lots of lube, laytex glove, trust, and a commited MASTER/slave relationship.

thanks very much

c_s_s

 

[HottieMama]

Couple of questions...

What type of lube are you using? Some lubes work better than others.

Ever try Purple Nitrile gloves? They aren't powdered like latex and provide a slicker surface.

When he puts his fingers in, is he putting them in thumb down (closer to your asshole) or thumb up (closer to your clit?) If he puts them in and puts his thumb up, his knuckles shouldn't hit the pubic bone at all and might make it a bit easier.

Remember though, that it takes most women a while before they can be fully fisted and some are not able to be fully fisted because their anatomy is just too small or the Tops hand is too big.

 

[serijules]

You are likely trying too hard. If you go into it with the goal of "he must get his fist in all the way", neither of you are going to truly be relaxed and enjoying the experience.

Try going into it with simply "we both love this interaction and sensation, regardless of how far his fist gets in". Focus on how good it feels, how exposed you are, how under his control. Take your time, even if that time is hours. Stop for breaks and incorporate other turn-ons like pain play or even sex then go back to fisting. Eventually, if it is meant to fit, it will.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

It took us a while to manage this as Master has quite large hands but perseverance paid off. He put his hand in palm up and then turned it once inside. It's easier to pop the thumb in than to drag your knuckles past the pubic bone IME.

Etoile had a really good little demo vid (nothing rude, just a vid of her hand) that she posted once. If you throw cookies around the thread she might just stop by and post a link for you.

http://www.myhomecooking.net/chocolate-chip-cookies/images/chocolate-chip-cookies.jpg

 

[FurryFury]

Enjoy what you can do would be my suggestion. My husband and I have the same problem but we have a good time anyway.

 

[madetotakeit]

Enjoy what you can do would be my suggestion.

A very good suggestion. I've come very close...depressingly close when I thought about it too much ( I felt I was letting him down, not living up to expectations which I think did cause more difficulty because I was over-thinking. Communication, communication, communication...) But, I enjoyed every minute of the attempts. Each time I came a little closer, so I have no doubts that with the next one I will succeed.

Try going into it with simply "we both love this interaction and sensation, regardless of how far his fist gets in". Focus on how good it feels, how exposed you are, how under his control. Take your time, even if that time is hours. Stop for breaks and incorporate other turn-ons like pain play or even sex then go back to fisting.-serijules

Also good advice. Give the mind a rest from concentrating on the attempt and let the body relax as a result. Bonus for me by going that route was I learned once and for all that yes, pain play is on my must list.

 

[EmpressFi]

A very good suggestion. I've come very close...depressingly close when I thought about it too much ( I felt I was letting him down, not living up to expectations which I think did cause more difficulty because I was over-thinking. Communication, communication, communication...) But, I enjoyed every minute of the attempts. Each time I came a little closer, so I have no doubts that with the next one I will succeed.



Also good advice. Give the mind a rest from concentrating on the attempt and let the body relax as a result. Bonus for my by going that route was I learned once and for all that yes, pain play is on my must list.

I'm in this boat. Master and Malin have large hands *purrs*. I havent had an entire hand inside yet, but each time they get a little more. I have had to work with myself to not feel as though I've let them down though.. I agree... just enjoy what you can... and practice what works. If it's meant to fit, it will

 

[Evil_Geoff]

After several attempts and different positions we are both frustrated that we can't manage to get his hand all the way in.

Question:

Have you had a child yet? It certainly isn't a requirement, but a woman who has given birth naturally will find it somewhat easier to take a fist as the baby passing through the birth canal widens the pubic opening.

His hand should be "spearpointed" - meaning that the 4 fingers are brought together as closely as possible.

The thumb should be held to the inside his palm, the tip of the thumb brought to the midpoint of the hand between middle and ring finger.

His hand should be aligned along the clit - anus axis... the widest part of the hand across the 4 knuckles will have the most room to work that way.

Slowly and carefully with lots of lube, work his hand in and out, the 4 fingers penetrating and gently stretching the vaginal opening... work your way up to all 4 fingers... then work the thumb into the mix... then work the knuckles in. If you are at the knuckles, you're just about there. At that point it's a matter of timing, relaxation on your part and pushing on his, carefully curling the fingers into a fist around the thumb as the knuckles pass through the vaginal opening.

Patience and practice... patience and practice. Trust me on this, his hand is not as wide as a baby's head and shoulders unless he's got gorilla hands. It CAN get in there. Good luck!

 

[Homburg]

Patience and practice... patience and practice. Trust me on this, his hand is not as wide as a baby's head and shoulders unless he's got gorilla hands. It CAN get in there. Good luck!

Gorilla hands.

 

[Kierae]

It is a process - slow and steady. Just realize that not everyone's hand can fit in your vagina - plain and simple. We can only accommodate a certain size and we can stretch a wee bit more and that is it. Some folks never can fist their loved ones period. You do what you can do and you enjoy the hell out of it and take it for just that.

 

[FurryFury]

I've had two babies. One vaginally. We still can't get past his knuckles. It's fun even so.

 

[serijules]

I'm not so sure about the having a baby making a difference thing. You are basically putting something in the out hole, and your body isn't exactly helping you out in the matter.

Sure it technically would FIT if you forced it, but that isn't really the point here.

 

[Etoile]

You are likely trying too hard. If you go into it with the goal of "he must get his fist in all the way", neither of you are going to truly be relaxed and enjoying the experience.

Try going into it with simply "we both love this interaction and sensation, regardless of how far his fist gets in". Focus on how good it feels, how exposed you are, how under his control. Take your time, even if that time is hours. Stop for breaks and incorporate other turn-ons like pain play or even sex then go back to fisting. Eventually, if it is meant to fit, it will.

Absolutely perfect response, exactly what I would have said.

That video, since it was requested:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/somerandomcrap/th_db6b39c8.jpg

 

[DeservingBitch]

Great. Now I have one more vivid and pervy image of Etoile to fantasize about... *sigh*

 

[starrkers]

(Please excuse my intrusion, I rarely, if ever post on this forum, but this I actually know a bit about)

Usually when you get to the "NO! I can't go any further" point is right at the moment when one tiny bit further is all that is needed.

BUT, you must be totally at ease and fully trusting of your partner in this. If you tense up AT ALL at this point, you will fail.

My partner and I regularly play with fisting and still have the occasional "Nup, not gonna happen".

The first time it happened was a total shock - I was all ready to hit the fail point and his hand pushed through just as I was pulling him up.
It is as much a trust thing as a physical thing.

I am not big, and he has wide hands. I have had three kids.

eta:
We have found palm up, fingers pointed, thumb hooked into the palm, the easiest entry, with me semi reclined, on my back. Palm down can work, but is less comfortable. And watch for things being dragged in that shouldn't - even with lots of lube sometimes lips get hung up.

 

[twysted73]

Absolutely perfect response, exactly what I would have said.

That video, since it was requested:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a4/somerandomcrap/th_db6b39c8.jpg

This reminds me of a Steven Speilburg film. *scratches head and laughs at self*

Hmm...alright..I've introduced 5 women to fisting. 4 out of the 5 were women who gave birth vaginally.
I've also been told (on several occasions) that women enjoy my "strong hands". So it's not as if I have femanine limbs. Just very long. I broke my hand about a year ago (didn't feel like having it fixed) and it actually allows my right hand to compress in ways I couldn't do before that's conducive to fisting oddly enough.
But I digress.

Approach it like an extreme form of anal. Patience, communication, relaxation, time, persistance and keep in mind....babies are designed to pass through there. His/her hand shouldn't be difficult so long as breathing (taking a deep break relieves abdominal weight and pressure by raising the diaphram and abdominal muscles) , lubrication and easy, continual pushes are applied over an hour.....maybe more. Takes a woman (on average, 1st time labor) anywhere between 9 to 14 hours to deliver. Don't try to set a record. Stretch her slowly. Allow for the skin's natural elacticity to play a roll. You're also stretching tendon and muscle.
Do it for a little, pause to prime the clit with manipulation via fingers our mouth or vibrator, etc then continue. Ensure your partner's relaxed...maybe a little wine beforehand might help?

Patience, comunication, lube, fist, orifice. Ta-daa

 

[SubKekiLee]

It took awhile for Sir to be able to do it to me.... But we still havent been completely successful.... but so far it has been very intense and wonderful... and sexy. I cannot wait until he is actually successful, although I have to admit the first time he said he was gonna do it I was like Your gonna what ?!?!?!? hahah It took alot of trust for me to give him that.... just like for the other things Ive persued with him.... But he is my Sir I trust him EXPLICTLY...

 

[snowbyte]

FWIW, I've found that KY Jelly works exceedingly well for fisting. When I put lube on my hand (particularly on the back of my hand) I don't want it going anywhere. Astroglide, etc... tends to get rubbed off or dissipate too readily, which is usually not a good thing.

 

[HottieMama]

FWIW, I've found that KY Jelly works exceedingly well for fisting. When I put lube on my hand (particularly on the back of my hand) I don't want it going anywhere. Astroglide, etc... tends to get rubbed off or dissipate too readily, which is usually not a good thing.

Doesn't KY get "sticky" too quickly for you? KY is at the bottom of my list to use. i typically like ID Millennium (silicone lube..pricey but FABULOUS.), or Astroglide in a pinch. i've tried KY and it gets sticky and causes "drag" with the glove.

 

[serijules]

Doesn't KY get "sticky" too quickly for you? KY is at the bottom of my list to use. i typically like ID Millennium (silicone lube..pricey but FABULOUS.), or Astroglide in a pinch. i've tried KY and it gets sticky and causes "drag" with the glove.

Not a fan of KY either, gets sticky and doesn't last.

We use WET....I hate that too but Ma'am likes it.

Actually, I'm not fond of any non-natural lube whatsoever lol

 

[Kajira Callista]

Gorilla hands.

interesting

 

[luvitlong]

we have done this a few times , its starts with him using 2 fingers ,gently adding the third then when im stretched a little and relaxed he he moves his thumb into the palm of his hand and slides 4 fingers inside ,between adding fingers he he allows me time to relax by sliding the fingers in and out .
this also lubricates the finger well.
when im relaxed enough with 4 fingers he just slides them in deeper till
his knuckels are in deep and past my pubic bone . then moves his hand into a fist shape , a gentle push after this and hes usually in , a moment to relax and your off .

all said and done its all about trust and relaxation and time

 

[WickedEve]

We've tried twice. The second time we were almost there. Both of my children were delivered by c-section, so I thought maybe that had something to do with it. I do know that after both attempts, I was hurting the next day. And the lube we're using is drying too fast. Anyway, I'm glad to find this thread. I'd like to know more about doing it the "right" way.

 

[Homburg]

interesting

(because there's no 'waggles eyebrow' smiley)

 

[snowbyte]

Doesn't KY get "sticky" too quickly for you?

That's never been much of a problem for me and my partners.

i typically like ID Millennium (silicone lube..pricey but FABULOUS.), or Astroglide in a pinch.

I haven't tried any silicone lubes. I'll have to go shopping

I always have Astroglide (or similar) handy and do use it for this purpose as well. And if my sub is aroused/wet enough I can also do it without any lube if I'm very very careful.

i've tried KY and it gets sticky and causes "drag" with the glove.

Never tried it with a glove. I'll get me some non-latex gloves and try it out.