California Senator interrupts Homeland Security Secretary press conference

[Bn2f]

They have no plan to.improve imigration. All they do is criticize Trump. They don't even have a leader. Hakim Jeffries is a joke and I'd rather see Schumer's cousin Amy be in charge.

Did you have an endless amount of criticism for the past president? Just asking for a gauge if you have bias or not. Yes? No?
Can you do me a favor and tell me how many 'illegals' did Obama deport? How many did trump then deport? And finally, how many did Biden deport?

*To me liberal friends, excuse me for I don't normally use that dehumanizing term, but I'm trying to relate to maga.

 

[Justplainjeff]

Did you have an endless amount of criticism for the past president? Just asking for a gauge if you have bias or not. Yes? No?
Can you do me a favor and tell me how many 'illegals' did Obama deport? How many did trump then deport? And finally, how many did Biden deport?

*To me liberal friends, excuse me for I don't normally use that dehumanizing term, but I'm trying to relate to maga.

The immigration issue has been a mess for 40 or 50 years, across many administrations, but magnified these past 4 years. By no means is any of the last 6 or 7 administrations innocent. I have a bias towards any President who didn't enforce laws.

 

[Bn2f]

The immigration issue has been a mess for 40 or 50 years, across many administrations, but magnified these past 4 years. By no means is any of the last 6 or 7 administrations innocent. I have a bias towards any President who didn't enforce laws.

That's not what I asked. I asked you very specific questions. Please, try again.

 

[Justplainjeff]

That's not what I asked. I asked you very specific questions. Please, try again.

Well, gee, I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but even according to CNN Biden didn't deport hardly any. I'm sure you'll tell me the exact numbers.

 

[Politruk]

The immigration issue has been a mess for 40 or 50 years, across many administrations, but magnified these past 4 years.

That problem could have been entirely solved by the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, but Republicans scuttled it -- not the leaders, but the rank-and-file voters. It was one of the most irredeemably shameful things in the history of the GOP.

 

[Bn2f]

Well, gee, I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but even according to CNN Biden didn't deport hardly any. I'm sure you'll tell me the exact numbers.

Lol, I think you know and that is why you are not answering.

 

[Politruk]

Well, gee, I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but even according to CNN Biden didn't deport hardly any. I'm sure you'll tell me the exact numbers.

Biden deported considerably more immigrants than Trump had.

 

[nowisthetime]

They have no plan to.improve imigration. All they do is criticize Trump. They don't even have a leader. Hakim Jeffries is a joke and I'd rather see Schumer's cousin Amy be in charge.

They don't have the numbers in the Senate and House to do anything substantial because many nincompoops didn't bother to exercise their right to vote. No ding dong shit.


What MAGAts do not understand is that those migrants they racially detest generate a huge amount of money for the US economy. They pay income taxes and into social security of which they do not often get to enjoy.

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-the-social-security-trust-funds-solvency

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/undocumented-immigrants-can-do-pay-taxes-2025-02-26/
"The ITEP report said undocumented immigrants contributed $59.4 billion to the federal government, including payments for federal income tax and federal social insurance such as Social Security, Medicare and Unemployment Insurance."

Obama and Biden focused more on deporting those who are ACTUAL THREATS to national security and public safety you know real criminals, not so much those who are working their fingers to the bone in Hell heat weather, you know jobs lazy MAGAts bitch about but won't do! You know that's all interconnected with the economy? The difference is intent.

Facts are inconvenient for MAGAts.

 

[Bn2f]

They have no plan to.improve imigration. All they do is criticize Trump. They don't even have a leader. Hakim Jeffries is a joke and I'd rather see Schumer's cousin Amy be in charge.

That problem could have been entirely solved by the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, but Republicans scuttled it -- not the leaders, but the rank-and-file voters. It was one of the most irredeemably shameful things in the history of the GOP.

Hahaha.
You beat me to the point, although I was going to start with Rubio scuttling his own immigration bill as to a so called GOP plan.

 

[nowisthetime]

That problem could have been entirely solved by the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, but Republicans scuttled it -- not the leaders, but the rank-and-file voters. It was one of the most irredeemably shameful things in the history of the GOP.

When you mention this, the MAGAt posters get silent.

 

[Bn2f]

Well, gee, I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but even according to CNN Biden didn't deport hardly any. I'm sure you'll tell me the exact numbers.

Awwwww, Jeff, I hope you don't feel like you're being ganged up on.
What if I told you that I am even more conservative than you?
That I have long wished that we cracked down on immigration, just as you do, but only with a much different approach?
Most undocumented people overstay visas and those people usually are flying into the US from Asia and Europe rather than crossing our southern border. Let's get them first! I am of the opinion that the US should start arresting those who employ the undocumented and that I support E-Verify! I believe that would significantly stem border crossings! Farmers employing undocumented laborers? Arrested! Kid Rock? Arrested! trump and foreign workers at Mara Lago? Arrested!

 

[nowisthetime]

Awwwww, Jeff, I hope you don't feel like you're being ganged up on.
What if I told you that I am even more conservative than you?
That I have long wished that we cracked down on immigration, just as you do, but only with a much different approach?
Most undocumented people overstay visas and those people usually are flying into the US from Asia and Europe rather than crossing our southern border. Let's get them first! I am of the opinion that the US should start arresting those who employ the undocumented and that I support E-Verify! I believe that would significantly stem border crossings! Farmers employing undocumented laborers? Arrested! Kid Rock? Arrested! trump and foreign workers at Mara Lago? Arrested!

Then grocery store prices will spike up because many of these MAGAts won't step up to the plate to work in those fields. Immigrants, including undocumented workers, make up a huge portion of the agricultural and food processing workforce. They pick crops, pack meat, work in dairies, and do other physically demanding jobs that are already hard to fill, especially with an increasingly aging population. Without them, farms and food companies would have to raise wages significantly to attract other workers — and those costs would be passed directly to consumers.

We’re talking about everything from fruits and vegetables to meat and dairy getting more expensive. And it wouldn’t just be prices. There would likely be labor shortages, food waste from crops rotting in fields, and supply chain delays. That is a fact.

So is immigration really a problem—or is it just being turned into one for political reasons? How did many people's ancestors get here?

The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are peaceful, hardworking people who contribute to the economy, pay taxes, and take on jobs many folks here don't want. Visa overstays do happen, but the constant focus on immigration as a “crisis” ignores the bigger picture: the system and labor demands.

Arresting workers or employers will not fix the system.

 

[Bn2f]

Then grocery store prices will spike up because many of these MAGAts won't stop up to the plate to work in those fields. Immigrants, including undocumented workers, make up a huge portion of the agricultural and food processing workforce. They pick crops, pack meat, work in dairies, and do other physically demanding jobs that are already hard to fill, especially with an increasingly aging population. Without them, farms and food companies would have to raise wages significantly to attract other workers — and those costs would be passed directly to consumers.

We’re talking about everything from fruits and vegetables to meat and dairy getting more expensive. And it wouldn’t just be prices. There would likely be labor shortages, food waste from crops rotting in fields, and supply chain delays. That is a fact.

So is immigration really a problem—or is it just being turned into one for political reasons? How did many people's ancestors get here?

The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are peaceful, hardworking people who contribute to the economy, pay taxes, and take on jobs many folks here don't want. Visa overstays do happen, but the constant focus on immigration as a “crisis” ignores the bigger picture: the system and labor demands.

Arresting workers or employers will not fix the system.

I do not dispute anything you have said. No lies were told by you and my true opinion on immigration is far more nuanced than I care to share here.
Jeff, as you have seen, and many other magats do not have the attention span for yours or even my nuanced take on the matter.
I choose this particular line of arguing because the far majority of those over staying their visas and also the owners of those businesses I highlighted are of the complexion that I have a strong inkling resembles Jeff's own. This war on undocumented brown people, I believe, would be much different if the evening news showed men in suits being carted off by ICE and Border Patrol. THAT is what I personally believe would bring pause to Jeff and his elk.

 

[Rebel5soul]

I got a kick out of Sen. Idiots statement, something along the lines of, "If they'll do this to me, imagine what they'll do to you?" Well Sen. Idiot, the security detail would do exactly the same thing to anyone that pulled the stupid stunt you did.

It's easy to answer incredibly stupid questions.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

I got a kick out of Sen. Idiots statement, something along the lines of, "If they'll do this to me, imagine what they'll do to you?" Well Sen. Idiot, the security detail would do exactly the same thing to anyone that pulled the stupid stunt you did.

It's easy to answer incredibly stupid questions.

Did I hear he cried like a baby when they manhandled his virtue signaling ass to the ground and tightened those cuffs on those wrists?

Typical democrat.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Did I hear he cried like a baby when they manhandled his virtue signaling ass to the ground and tightened those cuffs on those wrists?

Typical democrat.

There was some garbled audio and it sounded like he was trying to invoke his non-existent privilege. Kinda like the politician that gets pulled over driving drunk and yelling at the cop, "Do you know who I am?"

 

[nowisthetime]

Did I hear he cried like a baby when they manhandled his virtue signaling ass to the ground and tightened those cuffs on those wrists?

Typical democrat.

Whining like a baby is more of a Rethug feature. That's what your felon does. Whine and cry wahhh. They called me Taco, wahhh.

The jack booted thugs didn't have to do all that to a senator. The video clearly showed he identified himself and he was just speaking out. But hey, MAGAts are thugs.

Not sure why some of you MAGAts have an issue with these immigrants, are you trying to toil in the fields, too? I don't see any of you MAGAts stepping up to save these dying crops. Typical 38 percenters.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Whining like a baby is more of a Rethug feature. That's what your felon does. Whine and cry wahhh. They called me Taco, wahhh.

The jack booted thugs didn't have to do all that to a senator. The video clearly showed he identified himself and he was just speaking out. But hey, MAGAts are thugs.

Not sure why some of you MAGAts have an issue with these immigrants, are you trying to toil in the fields, too? I don't see any of you MAGAts stepping up to save these dying crops. Typical 38 percenters.

You really have no clue how security works do you?

 

[Bn2f]

There was some garbled audio and it sounded like he was trying to invoke his non-existent privilege. Kinda like the politician that gets pulled over driving drunk and yelling at the cop, "Do you know who I am?"

Enlighten us - what is a sitting senator's non existent privilege?
And while you're at it - explain to us how security works.

 

[Politruk]

I got a kick out of Sen. Idiots statement, something along the lines of, "If they'll do this to me, imagine what they'll do to you?" Well Sen. Idiot, the security detail would do exactly the same thing to anyone that pulled the stupid stunt you did.

For obvious reasons having nothing to do with social class, a senator should be treated differently.

 

[HisArpy]

You really have no clue how security works do you?

Nittywit has very little clue about anything.

 

[nowisthetime]

The facts are displayed right in front of you. You live in alternate reality.

So witness this thread and how debased MAGAts are laughing when a sitting US senator is being physically manhandled just for speaking his first amendment rights. The camera shows it all.

 

[Bn2f]

Nittywit has very little clue about anything.

Oh look who shows their face!
I fuckin call you a liar - imagine just ignoring such an accusation against your character and sayin nada?
Oh, wait! It's You. I have ALWAYS proved you a fuckin liar.

Again, I am a liar. EVERYONE here regularly shows you to be a fuckin liar.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The facts are displayed right in front of you. You live in alternate reality.

So witness this thread and how debased MAGAts are laughing when a sitting US senator is being physically manhandled just for speaking his first amendment rights. The camera shows it all. That's how lost these MAGAts are here, you are fascists.

Still clueless.

 

[Bn2f]

Nittywit has very little clue about anything.

Yeah, yeah
Not your fault blah blah blah