What happens to MAGA after Trump?

[Politruk]

Remember, Trump did not create the Trump movement. A RW nationalist-populist current already existed in American politics. In the 1990s, it manifested with Ross Perot's Reform Party. In the Obama years, it re-emerged as the Tea Party -- which then took over the GOP. And Trump simply placed himself at the head of it. Which implies it will still exist after Trump is gone, just waiting for new leadership.

 

[Politruk]

I guess it makes sense for the GOP to lose MAGA support. They are a demotic, working-class faction alien to the party's old middle-to-upper-class business-friendly establishment core. Most MAGAs would have been Democrats before 1960.

And they could be Democrats again, if the party would soft-pedal Culture War issues and refocus attention on economic left-populism.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Once Trump makes America great again they can all go back to watching NASCAR and bass fishing.

 

[LilKitKat]

Once Trump makes America great again they can all go back to watching NASCAR and bass fishing.

and hunting animals for sport and harassing Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Mexicans, Asians...

 

[Politruk]

Vance appears ambitious to step into Trump's shoes. So does DeSantis.

 

[Saint_Ann]

and hunting animals for sport and harassing Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Mexicans, Asians...

Eating their pets.

 

[NC_Coastal]

I love NASCAR and bass fishing. I own two guns. My pets are safe, though I'm worried about the Costa Ricans who have a food truck in the driveway. I'm an independednt who voted for Biden even after he withdrew. All my friends are MAGAts. They are still my friends.
We will survive Trump. It's his spawns I'm worried about.

 

[73Seahawks]

Remember, Trump did not create the Trump movement. A RW nationalist-populist current already existed in American politics. In the 1990s, it manifested with Ross Perot's Reform Party. In the Obama years, it re-emerged as the Tea Party -- which then took over the GOP. And Trump simply placed himself at the head of it. Which implies it will still exist after Trump is gone, just waiting for new leadership.

If the Democrats had nominated Hillary for President in 2008, there NEVER would've been a Trump Presidency period.

 

[rebel3987]

It collapses. Cult leaders are almost always irreplaceable, even if they name a successor.

 

[Politruk]

It collapses. Cult leaders are almost always irreplaceable, even if they name a successor.

Perot was once the leader. They found a new one in Trump.

 

[YDB95]

Right wing populism won't go away, but no one currently on the scene can rally the deplorables the way Trump does. No one else has the same blend of bravado and absolute shamelessness, nor the cover story of being a supposedly successful businessman (although why anyone still swallows that one at this point is beyond me). Which doesn't mean the GOP will never win again, but I doubt anyone is ever going to enjoy the hidden support Trump has always attracted. The hardcore deplorables will probably go back to not voting at all. Also, the classic Republican strategy of dogwhistle politics probably won't work anymore, now that their base has shown a willingness to support open bigotry.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Perot was once the leader. They found a new one in Trump.

He led EDS, and later he was the leader of the Larry King Live show for a few months in 1992. He got 19% of the vote in the presidential race that year. Zero electoral votes.

 

[Politruk]

He led EDS, and later he was the leader of the Larry King Live show for a few months in 1992. He got 19% of the vote in the presidential race that year. Zero electoral votes.

And Goldwater got creamed in 1964 -- but he started a movement that elected Reagan in 1980.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And Goldwater got creamed in 1964 -- but he started a movement that elected Reagan in 1980.

He served in the US Senate for more than a decade before seeking the presidency in 1964 and three more six year terms after that. Perot never won an election or even a single electoral college vote, and pretty much vanished from the political scene after his brief flirtation with the presidency as a third party candidate in 92.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Perot was once the leader. They found a new one in Trump.

Perot wasn’t the leader of anything. He was there, by his own hand or by backing of others, to tank H.W. Take Perot out of the equation and Bush cruises to a second term. He wasn’t a serious candidate.

 

[rebel3987]

Perot was once the leader. They found a new one in Trump.

They never worshipped perot as a god like they do with Der flabby fuhrer.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Sorry
Perot was no Trump
Nor was Anderson
Trump was begat by FOX and Rush and oh yeah
… Putin

The two party system is just fucked up
Now it’s really fucked us hard !!

 

[Saint_Ann]

Maga will probably be like the dem minions and look for a new villain to follow.

 

[Rightguide]

Remember, Trump did not create the Trump movement. A RW nationalist-populist current already existed in American politics. In the 1990s, it manifested with Ross Perot's Reform Party. In the Obama years, it re-emerged as the Tea Party -- which then took over the GOP. And Trump simply placed himself at the head of it. Which implies it will still exist after Trump is gone, just waiting for new leadership.

BS, totally unrelated to the present Trump movement.

 

[Politruk]

BS, totally unrelated to the present Trump movement.

The Trump movement is not related to anything else. It's not Libertarianism, not Religious Right, and not the GOP's old establishment business-friendliness. And there is no difference at all between the Trump movement and the Tea Party. That's why you never hear anything about the Tea Party any more -- it has become the Trump movement.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

The Trump movement is not related to anything else. It's not Libertarianism, not Religious Right, and not the GOP's old establishment business-friendliness. And there is no difference at all between the Trump movement and the Tea Party. That's why you never hear anything about the Tea Party any more -- it has become the Trump movement.

Your ChatGPT can’t define it, so you feel the need to…bout right?

The most glaring thing is you can’t see the woods for the trees. Yet here you are, a full six months on, trying to make sense of your defeat.

Call it what you will. We call it common sense.

 

[Politruk]

Your ChatGPT

Don't even know what that is.

 

[Politruk]

Call it what you will. We call it common sense.

The Trump movement has nothing at all to do with that!

 

[Politruk]

Vance appears ambitious to step into Trump's shoes. So does DeSantis.

And so would Pat Buchanan, if he were still relevant. But nobody seems to know his name any more.

 

[dmallord]

Don't even know what that is.

You are a lawyer... Don't lie about your knowledge base. Of course you do, Pinocchio.