Catfishermen

[Wand3rlust]

That's unlike you - you not well?

 

[deefalttwunnyfor]

That's unlike you - you not well?

I am actually sick. Sore throat started yesterday. Today is coughing and congestion. Was it that obvious?

 

[Deleted member 6592667]

Been awhile since I've kept up with things. How's Brianna? Anyone heard from her lately?

 

[Jimmy119_190]

1) do I feel bad, not really, I think people who fall for anyone here, real or fake, are either a) clueless if they think it's going somewhere beyond the site, or b) playing their own form of onsite game so it doesn't really matter (to them) if I'm real or fake. And I don't "chase" anyone; basically you post a sexy female ID and guys are usually all over you.

How do you know that these subjects your chatting with have ‘fallen’ for you character?

Perhaps you’re the clueless one who has been duped by their character and fake content?

 

[AmberLGreen]

I am actually sick. Sore throat started yesterday. Today is coughing and congestion. Was it that obvious?

Are you trying to claim that it is mucus on your sheets?

 

[AmberLGreen]

Been awhile since I've kept up with things. How's Brianna? Anyone heard from her lately?

You don’t normally have a problem keeping up

Brianna and I had a good cyber session last night. Well I think it was her but who knows with all theses fakes around

 

[Wand3rlust]

You don’t normally have a problem keeping up

Brianna and I had a good cyber session last night. Well I think it was her but who knows with all theses fakes around

 

[Sugarbae]

How do you know that these subjects your chatting with have ‘fallen’ for you character?

Perhaps you’re the clueless one who has been duped by their character and fake content?

Well, LordP asked if I felt bad about people who "fell for" my character, so I used that terminology.

"Fell for" is of course subjective and difficult to determine, either in absolute, or by degree. When I say "fell for" in this context, I mean people, usually men, who showed a strong, persistent interest in talking to me, reached out to me repeatedly, pushed to make it sexual, and tried to take me outside this platform. Asking for pics, videos, voice, skype, Facetime, other platforms or even meeting in person.

As to whether I "fell for" anyone here, I've never done any of those things. Could I have been "deceived" by fake profiles or self-descriptions? Undoubtedly; I assume many people are at least exaggerating their attractiveness, but I pretty much take everyone at face value and let thrm be who they want to be.

But...and this is important...this is a self-centered hobby for me. I don't really get emotionally involved with other users, nothing more than friends with occasional benefits. What I DO fall for is my own characters.

 

[Sugarbae]

I know you're a guy posing as a girl, but with sweet talk like that, you're going to woo me away.




Yes, my questions were personal. But, the people want to know. This is kind of fascinating. The one catfish I know I spoke to before, I believe it was actually a girl. Maybe not, but I do suspect it was a female.

Honestly, I'm surprised there aren't a million people asking questions here.

More questions:

For me, it would be tough to get emotional al with someone whose face or voice I hadn't seen or talked to in real(ish) time. How do you avoid those things?

Also, how quickly do guys fall?

Do you find that it's more sexual or more emotional with guys? Like, of all the guys with whom you speak or have spoken, what's the ratio of emotional vs purely sexual?

What's the main difference between talking with men and women?

Sorry to @deefalttwunnyfor for asking all these questions on your thread!

First, about female catfish. There's a notorious user in Chat who I'm told has been at war with the chat mods for years, and has been banned and returned (allegedly) over 100 times. Everyone over there seems to accept she's female. I saw her once talking about getting into brawls over here, and getting banned repeatedly here as well.

As for getting emotional without "seeing" the person. I don't know, many people seem to be fine with that. This is a fantasy world, people fantasize. Probably varies a lot. There are some guys (and women) who demand "proof" of some sort, but not many. I just don't talk to them.

How quickly do guys "fall", see my exchange with Jimmy119, depends on what you mean by "falling." Things move fast in chat, guys get excited immediately. I don't form lasting relationships, if anyone gets too obsessive I ditch. Even abandon the character if necessary.

Most guys want to get sexual immediately, I tend to weed those out. I'd rather find people I can just talk to.

Talking to men vs women...women are way less pushy about being sexual. If a woman is pushy, it's almost certainly a guy. I almost never try to get sexual with women anymore, we just talk. Guys are all over the board, from dangerously creepy to totally cool and fun.

 

[Sugarbae]

Question for all you "Catfishermen" and "Catfisherwomen." Many of you seem to indicate you've caught catfish, or seen them caught, or at least you feel you can spot them sometimes.

What do you think are tip-offs? What makes you suspicious or even certain that someone is fake?

 

[AmberLGreen]

First, about female catfish. There's a notorious user in Chat who I'm told has been at war with the chat mods for years, and has been banned and returned (allegedly) over 100 times. Everyone over there seems to accept she's female. I saw her once talking about getting into brawls over here, and getting banned repeatedly here as well.

As for getting emotional without "seeing" the person. I don't know, many people seem to be fine with that. This is a fantasy world, people fantasize. Probably varies a lot. There are some guys (and women) who demand "proof" of some sort, but not many. I just don't talk to them.

How quickly do guys "fall", see my exchange with Jimmy119, depends on what you mean by "falling." Things move fast in chat, guys get excited immediately. I don't form lasting relationships, if anyone gets too obsessive I ditch. Even abandon the character if necessary.

Most guys want to get sexual immediately, I tend to weed those out. I'd rather find people I can just talk to.

Talking to men vs women...women are way less pushy about being sexual. If a woman is pushy, it's almost certainly a guy. I almost never try to get sexual with women anymore, we just talk. Guys are all over the board, from dangerously creepy to totally cool and fun.

Do you feel that not being yourself hinders the emotional tie that you could have with a person?

Do you think that could be why you have lost some interest in the sexual side of your friendships?

 

[Lord Pmann]

Question for all you "Catfishermen" and "Catfisherwomen." Many of you seem to indicate you've caught catfish, or seen them caught, or at least you feel you can spot them sometimes.

What do you think are tip-offs?

Allow me to help you better catfish someone.

For me, here are the things that make it super obvious.

1. They like everyone. Super friendly. Chatty with anyone.

2. They seem perfect. Pics are obviously fake. Life may be glamourous. Overly so.

3. They seem well-adjusted. Red flag red flag red flag.

4. The level of detail they’re willing to share on the forum seems suspect to me.

5. They won’t let me check their prostate.

6. They are up for anything sexually and are open about it.

7. Their list of sexual experiences read like one of those Penthouse letters.

What makes you suspicious or even certain that someone is fake?

Overall, there is just a “does this person seem like a real person” kind of thing I ask myself.

Almost everyone I’ve met here, has incredibly real elements to them. No matter how perfect they (I) seem, there is something real. Something human. Less than ideal. A streak of jealousy. A hint of neediness. They snap sometimes. Their posts are consistent with a person who has good days and bad days. They have favourites. They might not like to swallow cum. They might not like anal.

There’s one prolific poster that is around here that is absolutely fake. For some reason, people seem to accept this person and it boggles my mind (not sure if she is still here as I’ve not been around as much). She’s so obviously fake. I was shocked to learn people really think she is who she is. But despite all those red flags, she has numerous friends here.

 

[Deleted member 6592667]

The hugest giveaway with catfishers are easily the pics. A lot of times it's a real pic made to look weird or blurry. Probably screenshotted and filtered to death. And you can easily see they're taken from someone's cam site or Onlyfans page with a reverse image search.

Fun potential happy accident though: sometimes you find a new cam or Onlyfans girl you can check out. "Yes this girl played with and hurt people but...whoa check out THIS chick!"

 

[Sugarbae]

Do you feel that not being yourself hinders the emotional tie that you could have with a person?

Do you think that could be why you have lost some interest in the sexual side of your friendships?

Interesting questions!

I think playing a different character does "hinder the emotional tie," but perhaps not the way you may be thinking. I think it's more because I focus on my characters more than the people I'm interacting with. I guess another way to put it is, I'm kind of seeking a shallow interaction.

Does this relate to less sexual acting out...I don't THINK that's it, I've had interesting sexual encounters with people I don't feel particularly close to. I think it's more that I see them as two separate things. At one time I thought I was here looking for virtual sex, but over time I started feeling more like I wanted to just talk to people.

 

[Sugarbae]

The hugest giveaway with catfishers are easily the pics. A lot of times it's a real pic made to look weird or blurry. Probably screenshotted and filtered to death. And you can easily see they're taken from someone's cam site or Onlyfans page with a reverse image search.

Fun potential happy accident though: sometimes you find a new cam or Onlyfans girl you can check out. "Yes this girl played with and hurt people but...whoa check out THIS chick!"

Interesting. My newer profiles don't have avatar photos for this reason. Less likely to get caught this way in Chat, though. Things move a lot faster, and you can't post anything like a link to a reverse image file.

 

[Sugarbae]

Allow me to help you better catfish someone.

For me, here are the things that make it super obvious.

1. They like everyone. Super friendly. Chatty with anyone.

2. They seem perfect. Pics are obviously fake. Life may be glamourous. Overly so.

3. They seem well-adjusted. Red flag red flag red flag.

4. The level of detail they’re willing to share on the forum seems suspect to me.

5. They won’t let me check their prostate.

6. They are up for anything sexually and are open about it.

7. Their list of sexual experiences read like one of those Penthouse letters.




Overall, there is just a “does this person seem like a real person” kind of thing I ask myself.

Almost everyone I’ve met here, has incredibly real elements to them. No matter how perfect they (I) seem, there is something real. Something human. Less than ideal. A streak of jealousy. A hint of neediness. They snap sometimes. Their posts are consistent with a person who has good days and bad days. They have favourites. They might not like to swallow cum. They might not like anal.

There’s one prolific poster that is around here that is absolutely fake. For some reason, people seem to accept this person and it boggles my mind (not sure if she is still here as I’ve not been around as much). She’s so obviously fake. I was shocked to learn people really think she is who she is. But despite all those red flags, she has numerous friends here.

Wow. Quite a list. I'm probably guilty of most of these things, at least sometimes.

I think most of these are more applicable to Forum. In Chat, things move fast and nothing is permanent. It just scrolls off and it's basically gone without a trace.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

It’s a bizarre hobby, and I’d have thought it would be mentally draining sustaining all those different lies, sorry, characters.

Each to their own of course, but I do feel what you’re doing for kicks is probably a tad immoral and taking advantage of others, to their detriment.

We all have our own thresholds for that kind of thing though.

 

[Sugarbae]

It’s a bizarre hobby, and I’d have thought it would be mentally draining sustaining all those different lies, sorry, characters.

Each to their own of course, but I do feel what you’re doing for kicks is probably a tad immoral and taking advantage of others, to their detriment.

We all have our own thresholds for that kind of thing though.

Well, I can understand your view and I'm not gonna argue with it. I'm happy to explain what I do, but I'm not here to justify it. Probably best for everyone to make their own evaluation, as you have done.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

Well, I can understand your view and I'm not gonna argue with it. I'm happy to explain what I do, but I'm not here to justify it. Probably best for everyone to make their own evaluation, as you have done.

Indeed, and I’m not trying to berate you or tell you that you ‘have to stop’. We all make our own choices.

It’s been an interesting perspective and conversation.

 

[Sugarbae]

Interestingly, in the few days I've been posting on this thread, I've gotten a handful of forum pm's from guys hitting on me based on nothing but the name. No profile, no pics, no posts other than this thread.

 

[Sugarbae]

Ok, this thread seems to have died.

At the risk of being snarky, here are a few observations about the state of Catfishermen's World, based on this thread, a couple others I've seen, and my own experience as a catfish.

1) there is a small but noisy group who worry about this. Yes, you are part of it if you're reading this. Most Lit users not only don't seem to care about it, it doesn't even seem to occur to them to think about it.

2) for all your bluster about catching catfish and how good you are at it, and how you "post trophies"...you're really not very good at it. I went through this thread, and I counted only about 8 instances of catfish being referenced. The specific ones (Married Exec, Brianna) were mostly pretty old, and they seemed spectacularly bad at it. Most other references were very vague ("I saw one recently...").

3) Few of you are very bold about either questioning or confronting me, an admitted catfish.

I just don't see much to back up your clains to be The Great Catfish Hunters.

But good luck out there!

 

[hotwords229_A]

So I came across this pic and instantly recognized it as Norwaygirl.

Does anyone remember “her”.
If you ever interacted with anything “she” posted you would instantly get a PM link to hot porn, but Norwaygirl was very elusive to talk to.

Eventually it came out that the pic used in her profile was not “her”.

I can’t remember who the pic is actually of, I did a reverse lookup and just saw this pic on several porn sites, but no name.

Anyway, I still got hard, so . . .

 

[Photog1rl]

Anyway, I still got hard, so . . .

It begs the question, does it matter if folks are real?

 

[hotwords229_A]

It begs the question, does it matter if folks are real?

I suppose it depends on the interaction.
In this case, it was all about boners.

 

[TotallyNotTaegul]

It begs the question, does it matter if folks are real?

Yes. It 100% matters. Don't settle for anything less than 100% authenticity and call out the fakes every chance you get.

Tee hee hee
XOXOXO TNT