Catfishermen

[deefalttwunnyfor]

Oh, and you're following one of my alts, by the way.

I'm bored, can you start posting nudes?

 

[Sugarbae]

I'm bored, can you start posting nudes?

Well, you've balanced the karma by being boring.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

Oh, and you're following one of my alts, by the way.

I don’t doubt it, but I don’t necessarily disengage with an account if I suspect, or even know, that they’re fake. Partly through intrigue, partly through laziness

I’m a born cynic and an over thinker too, so unless I have personal proof either way, I will assume everyone is a potential fake

 

[Jimmy119_190]

Ok, then you've conceded my point. You're chasing degrees of "reality" from a platform that's inherently fake.

And I hope you can grasp the sublety here. You can call it whatever you want, that's not the issue. But your tone clearly conveys your contempt for someone ELSE'S version of alternate reality, while continuing to operate happily in your own.

Keep in mind, at the core of this, you're objecting to men here identifying as women. This is NOT against the rules here, nor is it illegal in the "real world" jurisdictions from which most Literotica users originate.

Oh I do agree that that there are degrees of fake, no argument there.

I think anyone using someone else’s pics to pass them of as theirs is fake and they’re deceiving the people they’re engaging with, and I find that odd and a little sad/immoral. Motivation adds a bit of nuance to that though, admittedly.

I also agree I’m distinguishing between degrees of reality, but i think a man or woman who allows a certain side of their personality (or even their desired personality) to flourish here when they don’t have that freedom in the real world is quite different.

For the record, I’m not talking about men pretending to be women. The examples I’ve mentioned could be women pretending to be women, I have no idea. The fact is they’re using pics of someone else as their own, which is a level of fake well over and above a (for example) a prim and proper wife presenting as a adulterous slut that she fantasies about being.

 

[~Elizabeth~]

Nice, always preferred Garmin, though.

Totally trolling.

I um....yeah I can't help myself.
My middle name is Minn Kota.

 

[MrMakersMark]

Nice, always preferred Garmin, though.

Love em'.
But Garmin has only been around for a decade or so.

And Minn Kota is the quiet power that catches fish.

 

[~Elizabeth~]

Love em'.
But Garmin has only been around for a decade or so.

And Minn Kota is the quiet power that catches fish.

Yeah, grew up with Minn Kota, they are pretty nice motors.

 

[MrMakersMark]

Yeah, grew up with Minn Kota, they are pretty nice motors.

They are.
Technology around the whole industry has leap-frogged forward. Motors, electronics, etc. Everything is better.

 

[Cotswolds]

I have, without doubt, had a couple of nice bends in my rod of late. Definitely two, maybe three, of the "ladies" I've spoken with over the last two weeks have given me serious cause for doubt. I have no concrete evidence, but many small clues. I haven't brought these fish to the bank, and probably wont either. I do find it quite interesting though, mostly because I can't seem to fathom how someone has the time and energy to keep up the charade.

I've been around a while, although I do so in spells, but I only actually know that of all the people I speak with, that three of them are actually women. I don't really put a great deal of myself out there, so it doesn't effect my life either way, but wouldn't it be nice to have a chat with someone every now and then without having to get your fucking fishing gear out?

Good luck guys, let us know how you get on.

 

[Sugarbae]

I have, without doubt, had a couple of nice bends in my rod of late. Definitely two, maybe three, of the "ladies" I've spoken with over the last two weeks have given me serious cause for doubt. I have no concrete evidence, but many small clues. I haven't brought these fish to the bank, and probably wont either. I do find it quite interesting though, mostly because I can't seem to fathom how someone has the time and energy to keep up the charade.

I've been around a while, although I do so in spells, but I only actually know that of all the people I speak with, that three of them are actually women. I don't really put a great deal of myself out there, so it doesn't effect my life either way, but wouldn't it be nice to have a chat with someone every now and then without having to get your fucking fishing gear out?

Good luck guys, let us know how you get on.

Well, it doesn't take THAT much time and energy, but that's beside the point. Why do people take the time and energy to go rock climbing, or do gardening or photography or dirt biking? It's a hobby, they enjoy it.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Oh, and you're following one of my alts, by the way.

To be fair, based on the pics of the avatars he’s following, I suspect most are alts.

Well, it doesn't take THAT much time and energy, but that's beside the point. Why do people take the time and energy to go rock climbing, or do gardening or photography or dirt biking? It's a hobby, they enjoy it.

So I have some questions, because this is fascinating.

1. Do you ever get emotional with a person?

2. Do you exchange voice messages or pics? Pics seem easy enough to fake. Voice is a little more difficult, not impossible. Video seems quite tough, so I presume you don’t do that.

3. Do you ever feel bad for tricking people?

4. Do you have different characters? There used to be a guy here named Query or Que who had many alts. They weren’t all women. One was a supposedly “ghetto” guy named smooth something or other who was a brilliant alt. But he couldn’t keep up the consistency of writing. So I’m curious if it’s always a similar character for you.

5. Are you a man or woman?

Thanks for posting. This is interesting.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

To be fair, based on the pics of the avatars he’s following, I suspect most are alts.

Haha that’s more than likely, and probably not totally unintentional too

Some of those I’m intrigued by what they might post to figure out what I think

 

[Lord Pmann]

Haha that’s more than likely, and probably not totally unintentional too

Some of those I’m intrigued by what they might post to figure out what I think

Yeah. Well, you have good taste. At least one of those people on your list is fake. I know one of them to be real.

I do end up sending video messages or video chatting with most people after some time. I feel fairly confident that’s hard to fake. But who knows? Maybe sugarbaby has been on my list of people to talk to.

There was a girl a while back whose accounts kept getting shut down. Some of them seemed very fake, but others seemed legit. I spoke to her (I believe she said she was a girl) about her various accounts. She actually seemed quite interesting. But her account got banned, so we lost touch.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

Yeah. Well, you have good taste. At least one of those people on your list is fake. I know one of them to be real.

I do end up sending video messages or video chatting with most people after some time. I feel fairly confident that’s hard to fake. But who knows? Maybe sugarbaby has been on my list of people to talk to.

There was a girl a while back whose accounts kept getting shut down. Some of them seemed very fake, but others seemed legit. I spoke to her (I believe she said she was a girl) about her various accounts. She actually seemed quite interesting. But her account got banned, so we lost touch.

I just checked, and I thought I was following more than the few that I am.

I’d be surprised if a couple weren’t ‘proper’ fakes, but pretty confident in some that aren’t.

With AI being able to produce all sorts these days I think the only way to know for sure is a video call, but I guess even that could be faked if people have enough time and tools!

 

[Sugarbae]

To be fair, based on the pics of the avatars he’s following, I suspect most are alts.




So I have some questions, because this is fascinating.

1. Do you ever get emotional with a person?

2. Do you exchange voice messages or pics? Pics seem easy enough to fake. Voice is a little more difficult, not impossible. Video seems quite tough, so I presume you don’t do that.

3. Do you ever feel bad for tricking people?

4. Do you have different characters? There used to be a guy here named Query or Que who had many alts. They weren’t all women. One was a supposedly “ghetto” guy named smooth something or other who was a brilliant alt. But he couldn’t keep up the consistency of writing. So I’m curious if it’s always a similar character for you.

5. Are you a man or woman?

Thanks for posting. This is interesting.

Hi LordP!

We've spoken before, although you didn't know it was me. Responses to your questions...

1) "Emotional" and even "sexual", yes, I do that sometimes, although nothing close to all the times. Usually it's just conversation, mostly humorous and usually sexual.

2) no voice or video. I used to send or post fake pics, I stopped doing that because I felt some remorse over using someone else's image. My profiles do have fake avatars, though.

3) I don't feel bad for tricking people. I view this site as entertainment. I think my female alts are more interesting than most of the women here, so I'm providing a service. And if people can't tell...how are they really harmed? Is it any worse than guys claiming the have a 12" cock?

4) Yes, different characters. That's part of the fun. It's about being creative and getting into the character.

5) Male.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

4) Yes, different characters. That's part of the fun. It's about being creative and getting into the character.

5) Male.

Interesting stuff, is your name Patricia by any chance?

 

[Sugarbae]

To be fair, based on the pics of the avatars he’s following, I suspect most are alts.




So I have some questions, because this is fascinating.

1. Do you ever get emotional with a person?

2. Do you exchange voice messages or pics? Pics seem easy enough to fake. Voice is a little more difficult, not impossible. Video seems quite tough, so I presume you don’t do that.

3. Do you ever feel bad for tricking people?

4. Do you have different characters? There used to be a guy here named Query or Que who had many alts. They weren’t all women. One was a supposedly “ghetto” guy named smooth something or other who was a brilliant alt. But he couldn’t keep up the consistency of writing. So I’m curious if it’s always a similar character for you.

5. Are you a man or woman?

Thanks for posting. This is interesting.

And there's a sublety to your first question that I wanted to mention. "Do I get emotional (or sexual)" with people. As I said, I do, even with othe men, even though I'm straight.

When I started doing this, it was mostly to get past the barriers of women and get closer to them. Not so much sexually, but just to be able to talk ro thrm in a different wau.

But SOOOO many men came onto me, in so many different ways, the attention was kind of fun, and I actually felt a strong enough identification with my female characters, that it was a turn on.

When I act out sexually, though, it's not about sex iself as it is the sexuality of the character. I watch her, I FEEL her, experiencing erotic pleasure, and that's my payoff, I guess.

I suppose a shrink could have a field day with all that. For me, it just....is.

 

[TotallyNotTaegul]

To be fair, based on the pics of the avatars he’s following, I suspect most are alts.




So I have some questions, because this is fascinating.

1. Do you ever get emotional with a person?

2. Do you exchange voice messages or pics? Pics seem easy enough to fake. Voice is a little more difficult, not impossible. Video seems quite tough, so I presume you don’t do that.

3. Do you ever feel bad for tricking people?

4. Do you have different characters? There used to be a guy here named Query or Que who had many alts. They weren’t all women. One was a supposedly “ghetto” guy named smooth something or other who was a brilliant alt. But he couldn’t keep up the consistency of writing. So I’m curious if it’s always a similar character for you.

5. Are you a man or woman?

Thanks for posting. This is interesting.

Hey Big Boy. I bought a new vacuum and have two dozen watermelon vines growing in the garden. Wanna come over?

Tee Hee Hee
TNT

 

[Sugarbae]

Interesting stuff, is your name Patricia by any chance?

LOL no, but I'd tell you no either way.

By the way, it was rude of me to call you out like that, and I apologize.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Hey Big Boy. I bought a new vacuum and have two dozen watermelon vines growing in the garden. Wanna come over?

Tee Hee Hee
TNT

Slide into my DMs, babe.

LOL no, but I'd tell you no either way.

By the way, it was rude of me to call you out like that, and I apologize.

I don't believe you are a man. No man would've apologized like that.

 

[Jimmy119_190]

LOL no, but I'd tell you no either way.

By the way, it was rude of me to call you out like that, and I apologize.

I didn’t see it as calling me out, I’m far too thick skinned and not at all bothered by online ‘beef’ for that.

I don’t get the appeal, but it’s still an intriguing dynamic. But each to their own.

 

[Lord Pmann]

Hi LordP!

We've spoken before, although you didn't know it was me.

OMG. I am scared to ask but I really need to know...

How was I? Good, right? Like the best you ever had? I'm sure it was. I just know it.

I've got some follow-up questions. Some might sound blunt or judgmental, but they aren't meant to sound that way. Just curiosity.

Responses to your questions...

1) "Emotional" and even "sexual", yes, I do that sometimes, although nothing close to all the times. Usually it's just conversation, mostly humorous and usually sexual.

Do you feel bad about allowing guys to fall for a blatant lie? It's one thing that people stretch the truth here and say they're 10lbs lighter than they really are or 6" when they're really 4". But the situation you create is quite different. You may have people getting emotionally attached to a COMPLETE lie.

2) no voice or video. I used to send or post fake pics, I stopped doing that because I felt some remorse over using someone else's image. My profiles do have fake avatars, though.

Why does the thought if using someone else's image bother you, but not the entire premise?

3) I don't feel bad for tricking people. I view this site as entertainment. I think my female alts are more interesting than most of the women here, so I'm providing a service. And if people can't tell...how are they really harmed? Is it any worse than guys claiming the have a 12" cock?

Is it worse... that's an interesting question. Maybe. There's stretching the truth, stretching your dick and completely fabricating something. It's all on a spectrum, for sure. Each person would have their boundary.

4) Yes, different characters. That's part of the fun. It's about being creative and getting into the character.

Whats your favourite character?

5) Male.

Do you mostly interact with men or women? Do you get sexual with both?

And there's a sublety to your first question that I wanted to mention. "Do I get emotional (or sexual)" with people. As I said, I do, even with othe men, even though I'm straight.

When I started doing this, it was mostly to get past the barriers of women and get closer to them. Not so much sexually, but just to be able to talk ro thrm in a different wau.

But SOOOO many men came onto me, in so many different ways, the attention was kind of fun, and I actually felt a strong enough identification with my female characters, that it was a turn on.

When I act out sexually, though, it's not about sex iself as it is the sexuality of the character. I watch her, I FEEL her, experiencing erotic pleasure, and that's my payoff, I guess.

I suppose a shrink could have a field day with all that. For me, it just....is.

Do you actively play with the people with whom you're fucking around? Like, if you and a guy are getting dirty and you're saying you are rubbing your pussy, are you really stroking your cock?

 

[Sugarbae]

OMG. I am scared to ask but I really need to know...

How was I? Good, right? Like the best you ever had? I'm sure it was. I just know it.

I've got some follow-up questions. Some might sound blunt or judgmental, but they aren't meant to sound that way. Just curiosity.



Do you feel bad about allowing guys to fall for a blatant lie? It's one thing that people stretch the truth here and say they're 10lbs lighter than they really are or 6" when they're really 4". But the situation you create is quite different. You may have people getting emotionally attached to a COMPLETE lie.




Why does the thought if using someone else's image bother you, but not the entire premise?




Is it worse... that's an interesting question. Maybe. There's stretching the truth, stretching your dick and completely fabricating something. It's all on a spectrum, for sure. Each person would have their boundary.




Whats your favourite character?



Do you mostly interact with men or women? Do you get sexual with both?




Do you actively play with the people with whom you're fucking around? Like, if you and a guy are getting dirty and you're saying you are rubbing your pussy, are you really stroking your cock?

First...we didn't get sexual. We talked about something in detail (I forget what). You are one of the wittier, more interesting people here.

1) do I feel bad, not really, I think people who fall for anyone here, real or fake, are either a) clueless if they think it's going somewhere beyond the site, or b) playing their own form of onsite game so it doesn't really matter (to them) if I'm real or fake. And I don't "chase" anyone; basically you post a sexy female ID and guys are usually all over you.

2) I don't know, shades of morality I guess. Using someone else's image is a different type of transgression, that's all.

3) Favorite character, not sure. I'm in my late 30's, I like creating characters under 30, hip and sexy. I got a few I loved, but I can't name them for you.

4) originally mostly women, now mostly men. Get sexual with both, but not very often anymore.

5) wow that's getting personal! No, I don't cum when I do it. Physically. It's more of a creative satisfaction? Maybe that's not quite right. Let's just say there's a part of my brain that enjoys it, it's mental more than physical.

 

[Lord Pmann]

First...we didn't get sexual. We talked about something in detail (I forget what). You are one of the wittier, more interesting people here.

I know you're a guy posing as a girl, but with sweet talk like that, you're going to woo me away.

1) do I feel bad, not really, I think people who fall for anyone here, real or fake, are either a) clueless if they think it's going somewhere beyond the site, or b) playing their own form of onsite game so it doesn't really matter (to them) if I'm real or fake. And I don't "chase" anyone; basically you post a sexy female ID and guys are usually all over you.

2) I don't know, shades of morality I guess. Using someone else's image is a different type of transgression, that's all.

3) Favorite character, not sure. I'm in my late 30's, I like creating characters under 30, hip and sexy. I got a few I loved, but I can't name them for you.

4) originally mostly women, now mostly men. Get sexual with both, but not very often anymore.

5) wow that's getting personal! No, I don't cum when I do it. Physically. It's more of a creative satisfaction? Maybe that's not quite right. Let's just say there's a part of my brain that enjoys it, it's mental more than physical.

Yes, my questions were personal. But, the people want to know. This is kind of fascinating. The one catfish I know I spoke to before, I believe it was actually a girl. Maybe not, but I do suspect it was a female.

Honestly, I'm surprised there aren't a million people asking questions here.

More questions:

For me, it would be tough to get emotional al with someone whose face or voice I hadn't seen or talked to in real(ish) time. How do you avoid those things?

Also, how quickly do guys fall?

Do you find that it's more sexual or more emotional with guys? Like, of all the guys with whom you speak or have spoken, what's the ratio of emotional vs purely sexual?

What's the main difference between talking with men and women?

Sorry to @deefalttwunnyfor for asking all these questions on your thread!

 

[deefalttwunnyfor]

Sorry to @deefalttwunnyfor for asking all these questions on your thread!

lol no need to apologize, I take no agency over these threads. Who doesn’t love a good psych profile? Two notes, I’m having a tough time with it just being a creative writing exercise vs palpable sexual gratification and then I’m having a really tough time masturbating to this