Tariffs announced on Canada, China, & Mexico goods

So your position is that 300% tariffs imposed on the US is totally fine, but Trump using tariffs as a negotiation tactic or imposing 25% tariffs is 'bad'.

Gotcha. 👍

Since I have a job and don't follow every single detail of everything going on can you tell me what 300% tarriffs there are?
 
Oz does not fear much from Trump tariffs on us because the USA has a large trade surplus with us and our average tariff on stuff from the US is 2%. However, Trump's tariffs on China will damage us because it will reduce demand for raw materials exported from Oz to China. We are in the unusual position of having a large trade surplus with China.

The worst result for us is that Trump will whack us with a big Tariff just because he can. Both he first time round, and Bush junior tried this, but were eventually talked out of it. But "Stupid Games." are always possible.
 
Oz does not fear much from Trump tariffs on us because the USA has a large trade surplus with us and our average tariff on stuff from the US is 2%. However, Trump's tariffs on China will damage us because it will reduce demand for raw materials exported from Oz to China. We are in the unusual position of having a large trade surplus with China.

The worst result for us is that Trump will whack us with a big Tariff just because he can. Both he first time round, and Bush junior tried this, but were eventually talked out of it. But "Stupid Games." are always possible.

Yeah, if trade wars damage the US, Canada, Mexico, China and Europe there will be collateral damage around the world. Best wishes.

Hopefully Trump will back off (again) if the stock market tanks today.

Welcome to Bigly Tariffs Tuesday, everyone! Hold onto your butts!
 
Canada currently produces about 87% of the Potash used to fertilize crops in the USA. Canadian mines are the only major producers. There is a World wide shortage of Potash so if the USA puts on a 25% tariff, the major producer (BHP) has announced that it can find alternative markets, especially in Europe for 50%+ of production. Any drop in fertilizer use because of price will lead to a shortage of farm product and consequent price increases for housewives. There is bound to be some increase in prices to American Farmers and American Housewives because BHP can make that happen by diverting potash deliveries elsewhere. All brought about by moronic and macho trade policy within the Trump administration
 
This graphic shows the market abandoning American positions and seeking a "safe harbor" in European stocks and currencies today.
Pay special attention to the VIX index....that's the key indicator of American stock market volatility. It usually trends between 20 (safe stable market) and 30 (Trump declares martial law). It has been suspiciously very low the first month of the Trump second reich, probably indicating that stock market traders felt Trump would yammer his usual bullshit threats but not actually DO anything. The Ukraine debacle and increased scrutiny of Musk's habitual missteps, it appears the market is finally waking up to the idea that 'this is not okay'.....a 15% DAILY rise in the VIX index to 22% today is a serious harbinger of 'there's a bad moon on the rise'.

https://i.imgur.com/zA97hre.png

As I said earlier though, here on Lit we'll at least have TastySuckToy to succor us.
It's going to be fun when countries start moving their money away from Wall Street.
 
China suspends soybean imports from three US firms, halts log imports

BEIJING (Reuters) - China on Tuesday suspended the soybean import qualifications from three U.S exporters and halted the imports of U.S. lumber, increasing its retaliatory pressure against U.S. tariffs in the start of an all-out trade war.

The suspension comes just hours after China imposed import levies covering $21 billion worth of American agricultural and food products.
 
Oz does not fear much from Trump tariffs on us because the USA has a large trade surplus with us and our average tariff on stuff from the US is 2%. However, Trump's tariffs on China will damage us because it will reduce demand for raw materials exported from Oz to China. We are in the unusual position of having a large trade surplus with China.

The worst result for us is that Trump will whack us with a big Tariff just because he can. Both he first time round, and Bush junior tried this, but were eventually talked out of it. But "Stupid Games." are always possible.
Someone pointed out something I had not considered last night;
In the first Trump regime, tariffs on China were focused like a laser on 'non-consumer' goods, Trump did not want Wal-mart shoppers to see price increases on stuff they bought. Had to protect Trump's re-election chances, y'know/

Trump is not eligible for re-election in 2028, so this time he just lets it all rip; tariffs on literally errything China sends to the United States, fuck the MAGA base, they've served their purpose, he no longer needs them.
 
Target CEO expects prices to soar in next few days on a lot of their goods, especially fresh produce like fruit, due to trump's tariffs:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/oth...p&cvid=b3d95323bac0495fbd624ac7e5b345bd&ei=51

Trump has made tariffs a central part of his economic policy and said he plans to create an “External Revenue Service” to oversee the duties. The name reflects his oft-repeated and inaccurate claim that tariffs are paid by foreign countries.
In fact, they’re a tax paid by American companies, with the costs passed on to consumers.
And given the short supply chains for fresh produce, buyers will see those price increases almost immediately, Cornell said. A couple of months ago, only about 20 percent of America understood what a tariff was, but now it’s closer to 50 percent, he said.
silver lining: the standard of education's improved

trump headliner on truth social? Education improves a whopping 30% under trump
 

Best Buy​

Similarly, Best Buy, heavily reliant on electronic imports, anticipates price adjustments. As reported by CNBC, CEO Corie Barry commented on an earnings call that "the consumer electronic supply chain is highly global, technical and complex," and that price increases due to the new tariffs are "highly likely" for consumers in the U.S.

Walmart​

In November, Walmart also signaled a potential for price increases. CFO John David Rainey told CNBC, "We never want to raise prices... Our model is everyday low prices. But there probably will be cases where prices will go up."

https://www.newsweek.com/list-stores-raise-prices-donald-trump-tariffs-2039454
 
Always interesting that my emails to my reps go the same every time...Republicans ignore them. Democrats respond immediately.

Even the ones where I called for Biden to be impeached
 
'It's Gone': Ontario Rips Up Starlink Contract to Hit Back at Trump's Tariffs

"We're ripping up Ontario’s contract with Starlink,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said in a press conference on Tuesday.

The Canadian province paused the contract cancellation after Trump agreed to postpone his tariffs for 30 days. But with the US imposing tariffs on Canada (and Mexico) today, Ford decided to terminate the deal, telling the public: "It’s done, it’s gone."

“We won’t award contracts to people who enable and encourage economic attacks on our province and our country,” the Premier said, alluding to SpaceX CEO and Trump ally Elon Musk.
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Unfortunately, the losses won't be that big a drop in the musk ocean and some rural Canadians will not get the internet they need. Hopefully there's another plan in place to get it to them.
SpaceX will lose about $100 million CAD (US$68.9 million) from the deal, which was first announced in November. However, it also means that 15,000 underserved homes and businesses in rural and remote communities will not get subsidized satellite internet access.
 
'It's Gone': Ontario Rips Up Starlink Contract to Hit Back at Trump's Tariffs

"We're ripping up Ontario’s contract with Starlink,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said in a press conference on Tuesday.


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Unfortunately, the losses won't be that big a drop in the musk ocean and some rural Canadians will not get the internet they need. Hopefully there's another plan in place to get it to them.
However, in late February 2025 Carlos Slim of Mexico cancelled a $22B contract with Starlink!
That’ll give Elon a sore ass!
 
However, in late February 2025 Carlos Slim of Mexico cancelled a $22B contract with Starlink!
That’ll give Elon a sore ass!
I'd like to agree but given how much his wealth has grown since trump took office—$170B—I'm not sure he'll be that concerned. Fuck the people that work for the companies he owns, he's doing just fine.
 
However, in late February 2025 Carlos Slim of Mexico cancelled a $22B contract with Starlink!
That’ll give Elon a sore ass!
Not as sore as the GWOT being turned on the cartels is going to make ol' Carlos. :D
 
'It's Gone': Ontario Rips Up Starlink Contract to Hit Back at Trump's Tariffs

"We're ripping up Ontario’s contract with Starlink,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said in a press conference on Tuesday.
Doug said this before.
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Unfortunately, the losses won't be that big a drop in the musk ocean and some rural Canadians will not get the internet they need. Hopefully there's another plan in place to get it to them.
There is another company Xplornet, which like Starlink, uses satellites. I had it before switching to Starlink. We are in the process of switching back.
 
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