The Party of Rapists and Sexual Predators

[Boxlicker101]

Because he's in prison while Mr. I-Like-Beer is on the Supreme Court? Because the Democrats aren't trashing Cosby's accusers? Because Obama isn't telling anyone who'll listen that Cosby is innocent like Trump is doing with Kavanaugh? Geez, Box, even for you...

Cosby has been proven guilty and convicted. Kavanaugh has not, and there is no credible evidence against him. There have been accusations by those who have an agenda, but nothing that can be considered actual evidence. And, what do you call this but trashing his accusers? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-closing-arguments-sexual-assault-allegations

 

[KeithD]

Who’s that?

The Bill Cosby I know gave to humanitarian and educational charities, not political parties.

Bill Cosby is a Democrat and has contributed to both Democrats (87 percent of giving) and a Republican (13 percent), but he hasn't been a big campaign contributor to anyone, really. (https://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/bill_cosby.asp)

The insidious distraction that Box and others are trying to do here, is the silly whataboutism. Yes both Clinton and Cosby are sexual predators and sleazebags--Cosby in as big a way as Trump and a bigger way than has been shown so far with Kavanaugh (Kavanaugh rolled out his dirt frat boy persona all on his own during his SC appointment hearings, though)--but that doesn't in the least take away the venality of Trump, now holding the position of president, and Kavanaugh, now holding a SC seat. Clinton was impeached and has been marginalized. Cosby is in prison.

The Trumpettes' attempt to equalize the current status of all of this and thus whitewash Trump and Kavanaugh is just silly and typically sleazy.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

I would say the first pact with Hitler was The Anti-Comintern Pact: https://www.britannica.com/event/Anti-Comintern-Pact

ETA: The Molotov Pact was signed almost tree years later:https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/german-soviet-nonaggression-pact

Stalin was shockingly right-wing at times. An anti-Semite, for starters, very superstitious, homophobic, abusive toward his wives. A bully toward Khrushchev among others (not that I have much sympathy for the Butcher of the Ukraine).

 

[jp55665566]

Originally Posted by allison22
We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights.



The many Republican women in this country would likely challenge your assertion; and question the nature of a psyche that could sincerely proffer an analysis of such obtuse tenor.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Bill Cosby is a Democrat and has contributed to both Democrats (87 percent of giving) and a Republican (13 percent), but he hasn't been a big campaign contributor to anyone, really. (https://www.campaignmoney.com/biography/bill_cosby.asp)

The insidious distraction that Box and others are trying to do here, is the silly whataboutism. Yes both Clinton and Cosby are sexual predators and sleazebags--Cosby in as big a way as Trump and a bigger way than has been shown so far with Kavanaugh (Kavanaugh rolled out his dirt frat boy persona all on his own during his SC appointment hearings, though)--but that doesn't in the least take away the venality of Trump, now holding the position of president, and Kavanaugh, now holding a SC seat. Clinton was impeached and has been marginalized. Cosby is in prison.

The Trumpettes' attempt to equalize the current status of all of this and thus whitewash Trump and Kavanaugh is just silly and typically sleazy.

Call it what you want; I am just refuting the premise of the OP that the GOP is the party of rape, etc. All parties include people who are guilty of such misdeeds.

 

[icanhelp1]

Call it what you want; I am just refuting the premise of the OP that the GOP is the party of rape, etc. All parties include people who are guilty of such misdeeds.

BOX! please don't confuse the issue with facts, for God's sake man; what's wrong with you?

 

[JKendallDane]

Don't let actual facts get in the way of keeping you from spreading a long debunked smear job.

Amid calls for an investigation, Frank asked the House Ethics Committee to investigate his relationship "in order to ensure that the public record is clear."

The Committee found no evidence that Frank had known of or been involved in the alleged illegal activity and dismissed all Gobie's more scandalous claims. They did recommend a reprimand for Frank using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets and for misstatements of fact in a memorandum relating to Gobie's criminal probation record.

Interestingly enough, the attempts to censure and expel Frank were led by none other than Republican Congressman and future Senator Larry "Wide Stance" Craig.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank#Scandal

So basically, Barney got busted for the ultimate sin of fixing some parking tickets, while the guy leading the charge to get him tossed out of Congress would end up losing his Senate seat for trying to get some action from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom.

Kind of reminds you of Newt Gingrich clutching his pearls for the TV cameras over Bill Clinton's blowjob, while HE was screwing around on wife #2 (that he had screwed around with while married to wife #1) and would end up ditching her for mistress-wife #3 who just happened to be <surprise-surprise> a two-decade-younger staffer of his.

Box doesn't have brain cells that let him think in terms of facts.

Personally, Keith, I kinda like how Box totally disappeared from this thread and let it die for an entire month after I made that post, but suddenly jumps back in with both feet now when it's been dragged up from some dark corner of the thread basement and being turned into "But, but, but...BILL COSBY!" hand-wringing and teeth gnashing.

I was so looking forward to his "But, but, but, but, but..." comeback to the Barney Frank facts.

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[BotanyBoy]

Stalin was shockingly right-wing at times. An anti-Semite, for starters, very superstitious, homophobic, abusive toward his wives. A bully toward Khrushchev among others (not that I have much sympathy for the Butcher of the Ukraine).

Oh look, Severusmax doesn't know what "right wing" is.

Not at all shocking.

Che was all those things too, in fact he made it a point to be extra savage while butchering homosexuals by the truck load. You gonna argue one of the most iconic socialist revolutionaries of the 20th century was right wing too??

Same with Mao, Castro and the entire Kim regime.....all anti-semitic, SUUUPER homophobic and woman abusers of the highest calibers. Are you saying they are right wing too??

Poli-Sci 101 tip: Homophobia, anti-semitism and being abusive to women have NOTHING to do with R v L.

 

[gunthernehmen]

So, after the disturbing and extremely credible allegation that Brett Kavanaugh attempted to rape Christine Blasey Ford at a party when she was 15 years old, Republicans have come out of the woodwork, attempting to defend his behavior.

Ironically, I couldn't tell which party the thread title referred to without reading the first post in it.

When will you all wake up. ALL our government officials are twisted little perverts.

It doesn't matter which team you're rooting for.

And it isn't any different today than it was 50 or 100 years ago, we just didn't have Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube memorializing all our childhood mistakes.

 

[allison22]

Republican Congressman Steve King came out with pro-rape statements just as he was attacking medical procedures for women who wish to terminate a pregnancy early.

"What if we went back through all the family trees and just pulled those people out that were products of rape and incest?” King asked, “Would there be any population of the world left if we did that? Considering all the wars and all the rape and pillage that has taken place ... I know I can't certify that I was not a part of a product of that."

So, rape is good, but if a woman is raped and wants to terminated the pregnancy, that’s bad.

What is it about Republicans? Why do they keep defending rape?

My guess is that the Republicans have given up on ever winning the female vote, the African American vote, the Latino vote and the labor vote, so they're PUSHING HARD to make certain that the rapists keep voting for them.

 

[jp55665566]

Promoting the notion that Republicans are "pro-rape" illustrates just how desperate some Democrats are.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Promoting the notion that Republicans are "pro-rape" illustrates just how desperate some Democrats are.

It's pretty pathetic.

 

[Stephen_Coyle]

Andrea Tantaros of Fox news Channel seems to believe that frat boys who rape college girls have little choice in the matter and should not be blamed when they rape college girls. In defense of frat boys who rape college girls, Andrea Tantaros says, “These girls show up at these fraternity houses. The guys, what are they supposed to do? Lock them out? ‘Hey, how are you?’ They have a couple more beers, the girl passes out.”

What are they supposed to do?

How about NOT raping the girl? That’s the first answer that pops into my head. Apparently, the idea of NOT RAPING never occurred to Andrea Tantaros.

Andrea Tantaros also attacked MSNBC for daring to spend about an hour of broadcast time, covering the Senate military sexual assault hearings back in 2013, saying that saying “what they consider to be priorities” is “unbelievable.”

She also attacked President Barack Obama for speaking out against sexual assaults in the U.S. military, saying, “That same [Memorial Day] weekend, he talked about military rape. What a smack in the face of the men and the women have served us with dignity and gave the ultimate sacrifice. … I mean, it’s the way they prioritize these things. It’s unbelievable.”

The Pentagon estimates that 26,000 cases of sexual assault occurred in the military in 2012 alone, but apparently, tens of thousands of sexual assaults are nothing to be outraged about. What Tantaros thinks should inspire outrage is if we TALK about sexual assaults or attempt to DO SOMETHING about stopping them!!

Ann Coulter is just as bad, claiming that “there is no campus rape problem” and that unless a victim gets “hit on the head with a brick,” it isn’t a legitimate rape.

And then we have the current leader of the Republican Party on tape, bragging about how he can sexually assault women and get away with it, because he’s rich and famous. If he meets an attractive woman who’s married and not willing to have sex with him, that’s no problem. According to Donald Trump, he can just grab them by their genitals. There’s no guilt and no consequences. Trump indicates that he perpetrates sexual assaults like this all the time.

Defending rapists and maligning the victims of rape seems to be standard operating procedure for the Republican Party these days.

The whole idea of NOT RAPING women and children is incredibly foreign to Republicans. That's how sexual predators such as Donald Trump, Brett Kavanuagh, Dennis Hastert, Jeffrey Patti, Paul Ingram, Tim Nolan, Mike Hintz and John David Roy Atchison have managed to reach such heights of political power in the Republican Party.

 

[Leather_Lesbian]

The whole idea of NOT RAPING women and children is incredibly foreign to Republicans. That's how sexual predators such as Donald Trump, Brett Kavanuagh, Dennis Hastert, Jeffrey Patti, Paul Ingram, Tim Nolan, Mike Hintz and John David Roy Atchison have managed to reach such heights of political power in the Republican Party.

I know most of these names, but who is John David Roy Atchison?

 

[jp55665566]

Republicans usually start by raping family members. Then, become full-blown sexual predators and even serial rapists. It's a fact! It's well-known that Donald Trump is a rapist; as well as his good-buddy rapist Judge Kavanaugh. In fact nearly all Republicans are rapists! That's one reason why Donald Trump called all Mexicans "rapists"; pure projection. In the Republican Senate... if there are no women around, they start raping each other! Yup. Oh yeah... and "children", Republicans love to rape kids.

 

[Stephen_Coyle]

I know most of these names, but who is John David Roy Atchison?

John David Roy Atchison was a Republican that got appointed by George W. Bush to be a U.S. Attorney. He lost that job with the U.S. Attorney's office when he got caught attempting to have sex with a five-year old girl.

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Oh look, Severusmax doesn't know what "right wing" is.

Not at all shocking.

Che was all those things too, in fact he made it a point to be extra savage while butchering homosexuals by the truck load. You gonna argue one of the most iconic socialist revolutionaries of the 20th century was right wing too??

Same with Mao, Castro and the entire Kim regime.....all anti-semitic, SUUUPER homophobic and woman abusers of the highest calibers. Are you saying they are right wing too??

Poli-Sci 101 tip: Homophobia, anti-semitism and being abusive to women have NOTHING to do with R v L.

Homophobia, anti-Semitism, etc. are all about maintaining the "traditional" values of the false Christian paradigm, the medieval religion that held us back as a civilization for centuries, so yes, they are essentially conservative, aka RIGHT WING traits. Socially conservative, which is distinct from economically conservative, though these often overlap.

Oh, and Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, etc. ....their ghosts can go fuck themselves. I have zero admiration for any Bolsheviks. None. Lenin and his successors betrayed everything that Marx was about.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Homophobia, anti-Semitism, etc. are all about maintaining the "traditional" values of the false Christian paradigm,

Homophobia WAY predates the abrahamic religions and has been demonstrated by atheist and socialist alike.

Also Muslims are SUUUUPER homophobic, anti-Semitic and misogynistic.

Reality is none of those things are exclusively Christian, conservative or right wing.

the medieval religion that held us back as a civilization for centuries, so yes, they are essentially conservative, aka RIGHT WING traits. Socially conservative, which is distinct from economically conservative, though these often overlap.

Only in the USA and other westernized Christian nations. Conservatism = keeping traditions, customs, policies. It is neither right nor left wing. Conservatism in other places can be very much left wing if their nation/culture is rooted in left wing ideology/social customs.

China for example has a super collectivist and mostly egalitarian culture going back thousands of years and nearly a century of communist rule. Conservatism in China is left wing.

Conservatism is only right wing in the USA because we are a nation and society founded on the ideological principals and values of classical English liberalism, a right wing political ideology.

Oh, and Stalin, Mao, Che, Castro, etc. ....their ghosts can go fuck themselves. I have zero admiration for any Bolsheviks. None. Lenin and his successors betrayed everything that Marx was about.

No...they didn't. They just followed the ideas Marx put out the only way possible, authoritarianism. The ONLY way to make equal outcomes for everyone is to force it at the end of a gun and "purge" anyone who doesn't comply.

Just because it ended up with a body count that makes the Nazis look like rookies at the whole mass murder game? Doesn't mean they betrayed everything Marx was about, it means Marx was wrong.

And in the end they are all still left wing homophobes, anti-religion in general including Judaism and abusers of women.

That's because homophobia, hate for religious shit, and being an abusive piece of shit have nothing to do with R v L.

The reason is because...

Right wing = forcing or allowing hierarchy/inequity.

Left wing = pursuing equity (equal outcomes).

And that's it.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Republicans usually start by raping family members. Then, become full-blown sexual predators and even serial rapists. It's a fact! It's well-known that Donald Trump is a rapist; as well as his good-buddy rapist Judge Kavanaugh. In fact nearly all Republicans are rapists! That's one reason why Donald Trump called all Mexicans "rapists"; pure projection. In the Republican Senate... if there are no women around, they start raping each other! Yup. Oh yeah... and "children", Republicans love to rape kids.

You forgot to say they rape their mothers.

You sure do focus on rape, don't you...

 

[jp55665566]

You forgot to say they rape their mothers.

You sure do focus on rape, don't you...

Well, I'm going with the popular premise that Republicans are "pro-rape", as a previous poster asserted.

(From valued poster, Allison22 -"We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights." AND "My guess is that the Republicans have given up on ever winning the female vote, the African American vote, the Latino vote and the labor vote, so they're PUSHING HARD to make certain that the rapists keep voting for them.")

I'm attempting to use a reductio ad absurdum to express my exasperation at such inanity. But, you are right I forgot to mention that Republicans do enjoy raping their mothers; it is a fact, well-known, though not yet widely reported in our vaunted and unerringly credible MSM news media.

In truth, it is Democrats who are trying to garner the "rapist vote" by championing voter-rights for felons.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Well, I'm going with the popular premise that Republicans are "pro-rape", as a previous poster asserted.

(From valued poster, Allison22 -"We seem to have reached the point where you cannot have a leadership post in the Republican Party unless you are pro-rape and anti-women's rights." AND "My guess is that the Republicans have given up on ever winning the female vote, the African American vote, the Latino vote and the labor vote, so they're PUSHING HARD to make certain that the rapists keep voting for them.")

I'm attempting to use a reductio ad absurdum to express my exasperation at such inanity. But, you are right I forgot to mention that Republicans do enjoy raping their mothers; it is a fact, well-known, though not yet widely reported in our vaunted and unerringly credible MSM news media.

In truth, it is Democrats who are trying to garner the "rapist vote" by championing voter-rights for felons.

Ah LOL

You played the part too well, then!

 

[YDB95]

Republicans usually start by raping family members. Then, become full-blown sexual predators and even serial rapists. It's a fact! It's well-known that Donald Trump is a rapist; as well as his good-buddy rapist Judge Kavanaugh. In fact nearly all Republicans are rapists! That's one reason why Donald Trump called all Mexicans "rapists"; pure projection. In the Republican Senate... if there are no women around, they start raping each other! Yup. Oh yeah... and "children", Republicans love to rape kids.

Here is a perfect example of what I call "the There You Go Again Strategy": the Republicans stand back and let us tell the truth about how extreme and depraved they are, and then they say "Aw, shucks, folks, we CAN'T be THAT bad, can we?" It works precisely because they really are that extreme: to low-information voters, the truth about them does probably sound like it must be exaggerated.

And it was perfectly clear to me that Allison wasn't saying all Republicans are rapists. The point is, Steve King is the latest in a long string of Republicans (the other hall of shakers include Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock) who have made incredibly callous remarks about rape victims, and the Republicans in general seem to be just hoping no one will notice.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Here is a perfect example of what I call "the There You Go Again Strategy": the Republicans stand back and let us tell the truth about how extreme and depraved they are, and then they say "Aw, shucks, folks, we CAN'T be THAT bad, can we?" It works precisely because they really are that extreme: to low-information voters, the truth about them does probably sound like it must be exaggerated.

And it was perfectly clear to me that Allison wasn't saying all Republicans are rapists. The point is, Steve King is the latest in a long string of Republicans (the other hall of shakers include Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock) who have made incredibly callous remarks about rape victims, and the Republicans in general seem to be just hoping no one will notice.

So the Dems are "high" information voters? LOL

Vape some more THC. That's your idea of high information.

 

[YDB95]

So the Dems are "high" information voters? LOL

Not what I said, and I certainly wish more of them were.

But yes, I tend to believe the better-informed a given voter is, the less likely s/he is to be fooled by nonsense like "Al Gore said he invented the Internet" or "Cutting taxes on the rich will benefit everyone". Then again, the causality might be the other way around. I really don't know.

More to the point, though, high-information voters - no matter their own ideology - are a lot more likely to know just how much misogyny and racism there is on the right, as demonstrated by Steve King on a regular basis. (To anyone who's going to pretend I'm talking about the author - hah, good one, I didn't see that coming at all! But the truth is, the Steve King I am talking about is a good deal more frightening, as long as he's a member of Congress!)

 

[jp55665566]

Originally Posted by YDB95
"And it was perfectly clear to me that Allison wasn't saying all Republicans are rapists".



Republicans ARE "pro-rape", just like Allison22 said. I saw a car with bumper-stickers just the other day -Trump2020 -MAGA -I'm Pro-Rape. AND, get this: it had a American (racist) flag attached to the antennae !

Not long ago, Democrats were very quick to condemn President Trump, insisting he called all Mexicans "rapists". This semantic sword cuts both ways.

Still, in truth... which Party is clamoring for voting rights for rapists? I'm pretty sure that's the Democrat Party.