Stroke stories

So more detail and how is build up used. Just a increase in sexual tension?
Well, yes, an increase in sexual tension is a big part. I'm gearing up to submit a post "Making a case for the term Pure Erotica," in which I'll list a few examples of what I'm talking about. It may take a few days.
 
Pretty much everything in this name, but even my more involved stories have sex scenes that would qualify as stroke. Detailed sex is one of the things my readers expect from me in all three pen names.
 
What is a stroke story? If this simply means that the story, however long, contains at least one scene with the idea that it could be fun for the reader to stroke to, then most of my stories are stroke stories. If it means that the bulk of the story is such a scene, then almost none are.
 
What is a stroke story? If this simply means that the story, however long, contains at least one scene with the idea that it could be fun for the reader to stroke to, then most of my stories are stroke stories. If it means that the bulk of the story is such a scene, then almost none are.
Presumably by that definition almost every story on a sex story site would be a stroker.

I reckon the difference lies in whether the sex scene *is* the story, or only conducive to a larger tale.

My Loving Lily series for example (three instalments so far) is just about Lily having one sexual encounter after another. They're tied together to tell the story of her day, but without the sex there's nothing to tell.

The Countesses of Tannensdal on the other hand is a Gothic story where the narrator visits a Ruritanian country. There are sex scenes, but they're there to tell the tale of his experiences.
 
I have an idea that would work for a stroker. I'll read a few and then give it a try. Thanks for the advice.
 
Raises some questions.

Over-square or long stroke? Two stroke or Otto cycle? Most importantly: emissions controls?
The specifications of the machine (like strokes per minute) doesn't really matter, it's the fuel that counts.

Comshaw
 
What is a stroke story? If this simply means that the story, however long, contains at least one scene with the idea that it could be fun for the reader to stroke to, then most of my stories are stroke stories. If it means that the bulk of the story is such a scene, then almost none are.
I think what I am referring to as a "stroker" is a story written with the specific intent to sexually arouse the reader to the point that they want to (or do) satisfy the sexual urges brought forward by that story. A great example is 12 Days of Christmas where the focus was all about sex.

Comshaw
 
I think what I am referring to as a "stroker" is a story written with the specific intent to sexually arouse the reader to the point that they want to (or do) satisfy the sexual urges brought forward by that story. A great example is 12 Days of Christmas where the focus was all about sex.

Comshaw
Makes sense to me, but I think there is confusion on this point. Some seem to think "stroker" means the entire story is a sex scene, which is completely different. By your definition, I write stroke stories. By the other definition, I do not.
 
Makes sense to me, but I think there is confusion on this point. Some seem to think "stroker" means the entire story is a sex scene, which is completely different. By your definition, I write stroke stories. By the other definition, I do not.
To me a stroker is a story where the sex is the point, vs a story that contains sex. A stroker is less likely to focus on balancing work and relationships, or a person's misgivings about getting back into dating after divorce, or getting revenge on a cheating spouse, or anguishing over a choice between two suitors. In the stroker, the relationship can begin with a blowjob at the workplace, or both suitors can be chosen at the same time with little hesitation, or the cheating spouse can make it up to their partner with a threesome, or post divorce dating can be jumpstarted with an orgy at a bikini carwash.
 
To me a stroker is a story where the sex is the point, vs a story that contains sex. A stroker is less likely to focus on balancing work and relationships, or a person's misgivings about getting back into dating after divorce, or getting revenge on a cheating spouse, or anguishing over a choice between two suitors. In the stroker, the relationship can begin with a blowjob at the workplace, or both suitors can be chosen at the same time with little hesitation, or the cheating spouse can make it up to their partner with a threesome, or post divorce dating can be jumpstarted with an orgy at a bikini carwash.

This is the third definition of the word in this thread.
 
This is the third definition of the word in this thread.
I think mine and Comshaw's are complimentary. A story intended to arouse where sex is the main point. I don't think it has to be entirely sex scene but it can be.
 
I think mine and Comshaw's are complimentary. A story intended to arouse where sex is the main point. I don't think it has to be entirely sex scene but it can be.

I think the conversation is incoherent. Everybody has their own idea of what a stroker is and what merit it has.

It could be a story that is almost all sex scene.

It could be a story where the author wants you to stroke.

It could be a story of any length with lots of buildup, but where the point is the sex.

There is a recurring theme by many that stroke stories, however defined, have less merit than others. I don't believe that.

I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story WITH sex. It all depends on how it is done.
 
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I think the conversation is incoherent. Everybody has their own idea of what a stroker is and what merit it has.

It could be a story that is almost all sex scene.

It could be a story where the author wants you to stroke.

It could be a story of any length with lots of buildup, but where the point is the sex.

There is a recurring theme by many that stroke stories, however defined, have less merit than others. I don't believe that.

I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story WITH sex. It all depends on how it is done.
I agree that a stroker can have as much merit as a non-stroker. That's why I don't force it to be less with the definition. If the definition were "a story with nothing but sex scene in it," I think that would force it to be a lesser story to some degree, though it is possible to have a very well done sex scene. I define a stroker as a story that may make use of any writing technique any other story might utilize, but directs those techniques toward the goal of getting the reader off above anything else. A non-stroker may also want to get the reader off, but it's not the main point; they have some other point they're trying to get across and also have sex, and may in fact use the sex in service of their other point. But I think a stroker uses any element it contains in service of getting the reader off.
 
What is a stroke story? If this simply means that the story, however long, contains at least one scene with the idea that it could be fun for the reader to stroke to, then most of my stories are stroke stories. If it means that the bulk of the story is such a scene, then almost none are.
I think of a stroke story as one which attends almost solely to arousal, without paying much attention to character or plot. Not saying whether that is good or bad.
 
Presumably by that definition almost every story on a sex story site would be a stroker.

I reckon the difference lies in whether the sex scene *is* the story, or only conducive to a larger tale.

My Loving Lily series for example (three instalments so far) is just about Lily having one sexual encounter after another. They're tied together to tell the story of her day, but without the sex there's nothing to tell.

The Countesses of Tannensdal on the other hand is a Gothic story where the narrator visits a Ruritanian country. There are sex scenes, but they're there to tell the tale of his experiences.
 
@StillStunned "but without the sex there's nothing to tell."

I think that's an excellent description of a stroke story.

P.S. For some reason I couldn't get the quote/insert quote to work.... ???
 
I think the conversation is incoherent. Everybody has their own idea of what a stroker is and what merit it has.

It could be a story that is almost all sex scene.

It could be a story where the author wants you to stroke.

It could be a story of any length with lots of buildup, but where the point is the sex.

There is a recurring theme by many that stroke stories, however defined, have less merit than others. I don't believe that.

I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story WITH sex. It all depends on how it is done.
I don't see where your confusion or your claim of incoherence in the conversation comes from.

"It could be a story that is almost all sex scene."
Absolutely it could.

"It could be a story where the author wants you to stroke."
Substitute "does" for "could" and again I'd say absolutely.

"It could be a story of any length with lots of buildup, but where the point is the sex."
And for a third time, absolutely.

"I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story with sex. It depends on how it's done."
For a fourth time absolutely, with a proviso. I can not for the life of me understand the difference between "about sex" and "with sex". To me, they are one and the same. However, the key is your last sentence. If it is written in a manner with an intentional aim to sexually excite the reader to a point of needing or wanting sexual release, then it is the quintessential example of a stroke story.

It doesn't have to be complicated, or confusing. Occum's razor if you will. The simplest explanation is usually the right one and the explanation of a stroke story is in the description. One that causes you to want to stroke. ( For men that is and since most consumers of porn are men I will stick with a male-centric explanation.) A "stroke story" is just that, one designed, written and intended to cause a person to seek and complete sexual gratification while reading the story.

And after reading back through this thread I can not find a "recurring theme" that stroke stories have less merit than any other. I did say there are some on this site that see it that way and there are. I do not see it from anyone here in this thread though.

Every story written has merit IF it accomplishes what it was written to do.

Comshaw
 
And after reading back through this thread I can not find a "recurring theme" that stroke stories have less merit than any other. I did say there are some on this site that see it that way and there are. I do not see it from anyone here in this thread though.
That could be because the people responding freely admit to writing strokers. If you were to start a topic along the lines of "what's better: a stroker or a "real" story?" I think you'd get quite a few responses deriding the former and claiming that the latter is far superior.

Anyway, I think I have another criterion for a stroker: it's not intended to engage the reader's attention for longer than it takes for a "stroke". You're not expecting the reader to plough through three more pages of story to get to the next steamy bit. Your stroker should be just long enough to get them off.
 
I think the conversation is incoherent. Everybody has their own idea of what a stroker is and what merit it has.

It could be a story that is almost all sex scene.

It could be a story where the author wants you to stroke.

It could be a story of any length with lots of buildup, but where the point is the sex.

There is a recurring theme by many that stroke stories, however defined, have less merit than others. I don't believe that.

I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story WITH sex. It all depends on how it is done.
Apparently it's something that isn't written as well as the assessor's gold prose is.
 
That could be because the people responding freely admit to writing strokers. If you were to start a topic along the lines of "what's better: a stroker or a "real" story?" I think you'd get quite a few responses deriding the former and claiming that the latter is far superior.

Anyway, I think I have another criterion for a stroker: it's not intended to engage the reader's attention for longer than it takes for a "stroke". You're not expecting the reader to plough through three more pages of story to get to the next steamy bit. Your stroker should be just long enough to get them off.
While I agree a scene (or several combined with very short connecting text) needs to be long enough to get the reader off, the story itself doesn't need to be just that long. As proof, I offer my "12 Days of Christmas", a 35,000-word long stroke story. I've had several readers who let me know they read the entire thing, but over four or five readings, which means getting off multiple times to the story.

But let's address your first point. I don't feel that way. I think to write a good stroker story takes as much skill as any other. But let's throw out the question and leave it to the crowd to answer: Who here sees it that way? Who thinks a stroke story has less merit, takes less skill, is somehow less of an accomplishment than a "regular" story?

Comshaw
 
But let's address your first point. I don't feel that way. I think to write a good stroker story takes as much skill as any other. But let's throw out the question and leave it to the crowd to answer: Who here sees it that way? Who thinks a stroke story has less merit, takes less skill, is somehow less of an accomplishment than a "regular" story?
As I wrote in my first post in this thread, I believe that a good stroker is an art in and of itself, with as much merit as a more narrative story.

But if you want more opinions on the matter, you'd have to start a new thread asking the question in the subject.
 
That does mean making the characters at least interesting enough to fantasize about. Just having a series of names doing sex positions isn't the best stroker. Has to have a little character, a little motivation, a smidgen of backstory, to keep from being boring.

Unless I've given the reader at least a little bit of meat to hang on the bones of these names. Not a lot, mind you. But maybe Becca is an athlete with rippling muscles and Krysta is nervous because she's had a crush on Janice, and Janice has been crushing on Krysta's bf Tim, and Joe is a shy nerd who can't believe this is all happening.

A good stroke story should have the same elements as any other good story. While some good ol' get down and dirty sex scenes are a must, it also requires enough back story, enough buildup and enough other elements to allow the reader to place themselves in the story, to be part of the story, to allow their imagination to take them to that dream world where it's not just a story, but is happening, where a guy is getting to bang that cheerleader he dreamed about in high school.

A non-stroker may also want to get the reader off, but it's not the main point; they have some other point they're trying to get across and also have sex, and may in fact use the sex in service of their other point.

Given the non-existent limits on explicity sex in main stream fiction, maybe we just don't need a genera called erotica anymore???
 
"I believe that a story about sex can have every bit as much merit as a story with sex. It depends on how it's done."
For a fourth time absolutely, with a proviso. I can not for the life of me understand the difference between "about sex" and "with sex". To me, they are one and the same. However, the key is your last sentence. If it is written in a manner with an intentional aim to sexually excite the reader to a point of needing or wanting sexual release, then it is the quintessential example of a stroke story.
My idea on this is if it's plot driven or not.

A story about sex is just what it is; about sex. Has a flimsy porno plot that's just an excuse for sex to happen, like the "snowed in" trope, or two fuck buddies that always have a reason. It's sex driven.

A story with sex, well it's just a story with sex in it, like a romance novel. Sex just happens to happen when there's time inbetween life happening.
 
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