How in the hell is this story on here?

[AngelRider]

An 11 year old girl who died from blood loss due to vaginal trauma. Are you kidding me with this bullshit?

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-execution

Someone explain to me how THIS gets through and remains so. And yeah, I reported it but I expect nothing.

 

[joy_of_cooking]

Thanks for reporting.

 

[ElectricBlue]

It's not eroticised, is probably why. It's brutal, but the theme of the story is the punishment of the girl's killer, not the girl's death, and the vigilante justice isn't eroticised either.

It's published in the non-erotic category too, which is further distancing from the erotic.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

An 11 year old girl who died from blood loss due to vaginal trauma. Are you kidding me with this bullshit?

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-execution

Someone explain to me how THIS gets through and remains so. And yeah, I reported it but I expect nothing.

The context in which the content is presented makes the difference.

If the actions are not titillating, arousing, or sexually stimulating for the average person, they will be allowed.

This is no different than with mainstream literature where horrific scenes of brutality are frequently depicted.

 

[TheRedChamber]

While I agree that it's not eroticised exactly, the authorial intent does seem to be 'wouldn't it be great to be able to torture child rapists rather than just execute them'. It's the sort of thing that might casually be described as 'torture porn' - but to avoid muddling the waters I'll just say that's it's subject matter doesn't seem like a great fit for an erotic website (even if posted in non-erotic).

But obviously it's been approve...

 

[AchtungNight]

Yeah, I’d personally not be into that type of story. I’m not a staff member here, nor was I involved in its development. So I won’t even try to justify it. I’m just gonna move on.

 

[lovecraft68]

BB has some point with context, but for me the issue is the age. This is a site that won't let you talk about a 17 year old's first kiss, but we can get a description of an 11 year old's brutal abuse.

It doesn't hold up in consistency or policy.

What if, when people see that all they have to do is put a piece in NE or NN and they can do whatever they want? Full blown rape stories, torture porn, underage. They all going to be protected by "well, context! Its Not erotic" those stories are erotic to a low form of life, and they are here, and regardless of author intent they're getting off.

Matter of time as these threads pop up that what I said above will happen. It wouldn't take long for this site to become a haven for all the asstr refugees.

 

[gunhilltrain]

BB has some point with context, but for me the issue is the age. This is a site that won't let you talk about a 17 year old's first kiss, but we can get a description of an 11 year old's brutal abuse.

It doesn't hold up in consistency or policy.

What if, when people see that all they have to do is put a piece in NE or NN and they can do whatever they want? Full blown rape stories, torture porn, underage. They all going to be protected by "well, context! Its Not erotic" those stories are erotic to a low form of life, and they are here, and regardless of author intent they're getting off.

Matter of time as these threads pop up that what I said above will happen. It wouldn't take long for this site to become a haven for all the asstr refugees.

I've suggested that the site is too understaffed – extremely so – for them to really keep track of what is going on here. They are probably depending on readers to report certain stories to them.

 

[RoperTrace]

I've suggested that the site is too understaffed – extremely so – for them to really keep track of what is going on here. They are probably depending on readers to report certain stories to them.

No complaints from me. Lit works as is, albeit with some problems. Have you ever tried using the Billion Dollar govt healthcare marketplace? I think Lit, in some ways is the model of efficiency, in 90% of the situations.

 

[gunhilltrain]

No complaints from me. Lit works as is, albeit with some problems. Have you ever tried using the Billion Dollar govt healthcare marketplace? I think Lit, in some ways is the model of efficiency, in 90% of the situations.

I have Medicare, because I'm retired. Well, it's something. You have to be utterly broke to get on Medicaid. At the risk of digressing, governments lie and mislead about everything. But then again – I can't believe I'd ever say this – but maybe it's partially our fault for expecting them to fix all of our problems. I'll save the rest for the General Board – not that I ever go there!

 

[AngelRider]

BB has some point with context, but for me the issue is the age. This is a site that won't let you talk about a 17 year old's first kiss, but we can get a description of an 11 year old's brutal abuse.

It doesn't hold up in consistency or policy.

What if, when people see that all they have to do is put a piece in NE or NN and they can do whatever they want? Full blown rape stories, torture porn, underage. They all going to be protected by "well, context! Its Not erotic" those stories are erotic to a low form of life, and they are here, and regardless of author intent they're getting off.

Matter of time as these threads pop up that what I said above will happen. It wouldn't take long for this site to become a haven for all the asstr refugees.

Thank you and exactly.

As expected, nothing happened and nothing will. I would bet a paycheck no one looks at reported stories at all.

 

[AngelRider]

The context in which the content is presented makes the difference.

If the actions are not titillating, arousing, or sexually stimulating for the average person, they will be allowed.

This is no different than with mainstream literature where horrific scenes of brutality are frequently depicted.

Context. Normally, I would agree with you but what if they made the victim 18. That would be okay right? It would fit the rules. Does that make it acceptable? As much as I hate that story, I am way more bothered by using arbitrary age guidelines to determine acceptable content. How many stories have been submitted that portray a high school student who has a bully that ultimately fucks the kids mother? The son is always conveniently exactly 18 years old and frequently very underdeveloped physically. The plots are frequently femdom male humiliation idiocy with the mother gleefully brutalizing her "adult son" (wink wink) or she is raped initially but ultimately loves it so as to satisfy the "rules."

Seriously, the whole notion of age guidelines and what constitutes "rape" on here are so easily manipulated to the point they are meaningless.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Context. Normally, I would agree with you but what if they made the victim 18. That would be okay right? It would fit the rules. Does that make it acceptable? As much as I hate that story, I am way more bothered by using arbitrary age guidelines to determine acceptable content. How many stories have been submitted that portray a high school student who has a bully that ultimately fucks the kids mother? The son is always conveniently exactly 18 years old and frequently very underdeveloped physically. The plots are frequently femdom male humiliation idiocy with the mother gleefully brutalizing her "adult son" (wink wink) or she is raped initially but ultimately loves it so as to satisfy the "rules."

Seriously, the whole notion of age guidelines and what constitutes "rape" on here are so easily manipulated to the point they are meaningless.

It's not just on this site where you will see ambiguities and inconsistencies in "rules". It is extremely prevalent on sites such as Amazon and even with mainstream publications.

There are some informative guides out there, such as the one on the "Lot's Cave" website'

 

[AngelRider]

It's not just on this site where you will see ambiguities and inconsistencies in "rules". It is extremely prevalent on sites such as Amazon and even with mainstream publications.

There are some informative guides out there, such as the one on the "Lot's Cave" website'

I agree entirely with you.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Context. Normally, I would agree with you but what if they made the victim 18. That would be okay right? It would fit the rules. Does that make it acceptable? As much as I hate that story, I am way more bothered by using arbitrary age guidelines to determine acceptable content. How many stories have been submitted that portray a high school student who has a bully that ultimately fucks the kids mother? The son is always conveniently exactly 18 years old and frequently very underdeveloped physically. The plots are frequently femdom male humiliation idiocy with the mother gleefully brutalizing her "adult son" (wink wink) or she is raped initially but ultimately loves it so as to satisfy the "rules."

Seriously, the whole notion of age guidelines and what constitutes "rape" on here are so easily manipulated to the point they are meaningless.

IRL, we use age cutoffs for all sorts of legal stuff. Sexual consent, legal ages for drinking and driving (preferably not at the same time), ability to sign a contract, etc. etc.

Does anybody believe that all people mature at exactly the same rate? Of course not. There are 17-year-olds who are mature enough to make sensible decisions about alcohol and 25-year-olds who aren't, yada yada.

But it's not practical to make a judgement call for every case individually. Sometimes you just have to set a cutoff that's good enough, and accept that it'll be blocking some stuff that ideally wouldn't be banned, and permitting some stuff that maybe shouldn't be permitted, because perfection isn't attainable. Likewise, whatever moderation rules Literotica has need to be something that can be practically applied by one mod vetting maybe 50-100 stories per day.

IANALawyer, but I suspect being able to point at an "18+" rule, even if not applied perfectly consistently, might give Laurel and Manu some comfort. Site operators have gone to prison in the USA for hosting stories about drastically under-age kids; granted some of the "18-year-old" characters that get through moderation here are probably 16 or 14 in the authors' heads, but even that seems a lot easier to defend than the no-limits stuff that people have been jailed for.

 

[Bramblethorn]

It's not just on this site where you will see ambiguities and inconsistencies in "rules". It is extremely prevalent on sites such as Amazon and even with mainstream publications.

There are some informative guides out there, such as the one on the "Lot's Cave" website'

Making good rules turns out to be hard. Who'd a' thought it?

 

[AngelRider]

Making good rules turns out to be hard. Who'd a' thought it?

Rules are nothing then unenforced. And they most certainly are unenforced.

 

[AngelRider]

What a shock that the story is still posted, just as I predicted. I would bet that reports are so backlogged that they will never be addressed (if anyone is actually reviewing complaints at all).
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One actually has to manage their business in order to ensure terms are met. No one will ever convince me that happens. The site is barely 21st century. It wasn't until recently that "news" was taken down. How long did nearly decades old Cosby rape news adorn the home page?


It's a joke and anyone honest recognizes this too.

 

[ElectricBlue]

What a shock that the story is still posted, just as I predicted. I would bet that reports are so backlogged that they will never be addressed (if anyone is actually reviewing complaints at all).

Stories do get taken down, get reviewed and either go back up, or stay down. If a story is taken down, it's up to the author to argue their case or tweak the content.

For all you know, this story might have been reported a hundred times and gone through the process. None of us here looking on would ever know.
I would expect the site to keep a history of any decisions it makes.

There are threads started about story reports and take downs fairly regularly in the Authors' Hangout, so it's a process that does happen, quite often. And usually generates a bit of controversy.

 

[Vintage_DM]

An 11 year old girl who died from blood loss due to vaginal trauma. Are you kidding me with this bullshit?

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-execution

Someone explain to me how THIS gets through and remains so. And yeah, I reported it but I expect nothing.

An 11 year old girl who died from blood loss due to vaginal trauma. Are you kidding me with this bullshit?

https://www.literotica.com/s/the-execution

Someone explain to me how THIS gets through and remains so. And yeah, I reported it but I expect nothing.

Did you reach out to Laurel?

 

[Constories]

This story did not sexualize the violence. I think that's how

 

[IsobelDoc]

tHAT IS

This story did not sexualize the violence. I think that's how

that is complete and utter bullshit. The fact that this site has such inconsistantly fucking stupid rules that dont allow a 17 year old to crush on someone, but are happy to depict the brutal torture and murder of a child - that author should have all his works taken down and his membership of the site permanently revoked.
It has been said MANY MANY Times - this is an EROTIC LITERATURE site - litEROTICA. its in the name. Hiding behind 'its not eroticized is no defence.

 

[Winter_Fare]

I mean, there's literally a non erotic section for stories, one for poems too. So there's that...

 

[lovecraft68]

tHAT IS

that is complete and utter bullshit. The fact that this site has such inconsistantly fucking stupid rules that dont allow a 17 year old to crush on someone, but are happy to depict the brutal torture and murder of a child - that author should have all his works taken down and his membership of the site permanently revoked.
It has been said MANY MANY Times - this is an EROTIC LITERATURE site - litEROTICA. its in the name. Hiding behind 'its not eroticized is no defence.

The hypocrisy of this site is only exceeded by the twisted pleasure it takes in defending the indefensible.

 

[Sammael Bard]

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