Extended Author Notes for "Are My Brother And Sister Lovers?"

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This is a story that seemed destined to sit on my hard drive unfinished forever.

I had the story idea in December, 2017. No idea of the inspiration. My initial description of it was “Attached is the current idea I'm playing around with.”

That being said, I’ve come to the realization that bisexuality in I/T stories is typically treated in a cartoon-ish manner. Alan fucks Brittany and then Alan fucks Cathy. When Brittany and Cathy find out that Alan has fucked them both, do they get jealous? No! Instead, they change from straight to bisexual, and the one person they’re attracted to sexually is the other girl Alan is fucking. And their sexual attraction towards each other is all about putting on a show for Alan; there lust for each other never conflicts with Alan fucking them. As AwkwardMD put it, “MFF porn tends to fall very strongly in the 'male gaze' end of porn, and like you've found, the women tend to be afterthoughts. Life support systems to two sets of nice tits.” So my goal was to write a story where the women being bisexual was not something to please the main male character.

Once the story reached what I thought was 2/3’s done, I sent it to two people for feedback. The feedback was negative. After a while, the story stopped working for them. I sent it to the author AwkwardMD for feedback. She was very positive on it. I worked on it some more, but the story felt bloated and much too slow. In January 2018, I shelved it.

And then in 2021, a reader got me to look at the story again. I realized I could cut out a lot of the bloat if the story stayed from Mary's perspective. That was back in February of 2021. I thought about the story and thought about the story until I eventually put it on my list of stories to finish. I worked on it some between publishing “A Flirting Workshop with My Sister” and “A Week At The Lake With My Sister”. The first thing I did was cut out all of the scenes that weren’t from Mary’s point of view. There had been a huge scene where Sophia meets with Lizzy and eventually offers to get her a job at her firm. It took only a few paragraphs of Lizzy telling Mary and Matthew about her meeting with Sophia to replace it. Once everything was from Mary’s point of view, I felt it was a compelling story with a very different form of storytelling, something akin to “The Great Gatsby”.

I started working on it full-time after I published “My Sister, A Modern Rapunzel”. I had just the final sex scene to write. I had worked out in my head how I wanted the sex scene to go, but I had no idea how to write it from a female POV. I skimmed Lesbian Sex stories until I found one that had one woman receiving and then giving oral sex similar to what I wanted. I started with that, ripped out the dialog, and put in my own. I skimmed Lesbian Sex stories again to find one that had a sex scene where one of the woman used a vibrator on another. I ripped some things from that. Hopefully, I came out with something that is focused on the two bisexual women while remaining hot for male readers.

I sent the story to 17 people for beta-reading and got feedback from 9. One of the beta-readers suggested I break the dialog into lines of their own as much as possible. I’ve noticed when I read is that I skim the non-dialog portions of the story and look for the dialog parts. Putting things into quotes that aren’t dialog throw me off because I’m expecting it to be dialog. I decided to give it a try even though it involved lots of rewriting because being able to process my stories easily is very important to me. I don’t know if anyone will notice.
 
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Not sure if this would work for you, but have you thought about posting them at the end of your story instead?
 
Not sure if this would work for you, but have you thought about posting them at the end of your story instead?
I may give that a go for my next story. My impression is that most readers just want to read the story and don't want to see a bunch of author musings. But I might be wrong.
 
I may give that a go for my next story. My impression is that most readers just want to read the story and don't want to see a bunch of author musings. But I might be wrong.
I personally enjoy the musings, but I can certainly see the downsides. Those that aren't interested may not take the time to get to the end to vote/comment. I know your work gets a lot of engagement so I'm not sure how you'd feel about that. I personally need every scant vote and comment to keep me going! 😅
 
I may give that a go for my next story. My impression is that most readers just want to read the story and don't want to see a bunch of author musings. But I might be wrong.
I do a short paragraph at the beginning of a story, just to let the reader know what type of story they are starting, and then a paragraph at the end to basically thank the reader for sitting through my character/setting development to get to the naughty bits. I may add an anecdote or two. No complaints yet.
 
I do a short paragraph at the beginning of a story, just to let the reader know what type of story they are starting, and then a paragraph at the end to basically thank the reader for sitting through my character/setting development to get to the naughty bits. I may add an anecdote or two. No complaints yet.
As you can see above, my extended author notes are much longer than one paragraph.
 
I'm one of the people who likes author notes at the end of the story - what they were thinking, how the story came to be, maybe some insights on their writing process.
 
I would consider editing/beta testing, if you would have me.
Think I’m good at structure, would keep the grammar nazis away!
Also, I HATE automatic spell checkers. I’ll check for typos and spelling by hand.
Marvin
 
I would consider editing/beta testing, if you would have me.
Think I’m good at structure, would keep the grammar nazis away!
Also, I HATE automatic spell checkers. I’ll check for typos and spelling by hand.
Marvin
Send me a PM, and I'll get you involved in the next story.
 
I had worked out in my head how I wanted the sex scene to go, but I had no idea how to write it from a female POV. I skimmed Lesbian Sex stories until I found one that had one woman receiving and then giving oral sex similar to what I wanted. I started with that, ripped out the dialog, and put in my own. I skimmed Lesbian Sex stories again to find one that had a sex scene where one of the woman used a vibrator on another. I ripped some things from that. Hopefully, I came out with something that is focused on the two bisexual women while remaining hot for male readers.

Taking this literally, it gives the impression you changed the dialogue but kept somebody else's words for the action. I am not sure whether that's what you meant to say, though - are you able to clarify just how closely the action in your story is taken from these other stories, or link to them for comparison?
 
Taking this literally, it gives the impression you changed the dialogue but kept somebody else's words for the action. I am not sure whether that's what you meant to say, though - are you able to clarify just how closely the action in your story is taken from these other stories, or link to them for comparison?

Yeah, I was going to say...

WTF? "I ripped some things from that" sounds no bueno, on its face...
 
Taking this literally, it gives the impression you changed the dialogue but kept somebody else's words for the action. I am not sure whether that's what you meant to say, though - are you able to clarify just how closely the action in your story is taken from these other stories, or link to them for comparison?
The scene I started with is on page 6 and page 7 of "A Girl Named Mitch Ch. 02" (link). I can't find the story I pulled the vibrator use from. Something "Angel" or "Devil"?

My sex scene is halfway down this page.
 
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Most readers don‘t care about or visit the forums, as can be seen from forum traffic. It’s generally advised that whatever you want to tell your readers, tell them at the end as Author’s Note, especially a vital piece of info like taking inspiration/ripping off other people’s works.

I’d generally view this as a sneaky attempt to avoid taking blame for plagiarism by offering token shout-out/gratitude on the forum - where threads get buried after a month or two. Very few are motivated enough to dig up old threads.

Remove your submission or let it stay as a badge of honour - your choice - but normally people get booted off the site for pulling off a stunt like this.

I’m closing this thread before it becomes a dumpster fire.
 
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