Disappointed……That was Jive

[BeaMine]

Interesting turn on the thread. No new news on the original question?

 

[tnhardon]

I’m getting flak from mods on my AI generated pic thread. It’s frustrating and disappointing. It’s my understanding that non photographic art is exempt from certain restrictions. I’m being told that the restrictions sort of apply. That leaves a lot of grey area….I’m being chastised for “sort of”. Either the restrictions apply or they don’t. Sort of..does not give me any direction or actionable criteria.

I’ve asked for clarification but have received none. I see photographic content that is much more risqué on threads and I am not complaining but confused.

The mods say people are complaining about my thread….I’m not sure why folk see fit to complain and maybe some of you can offer some constructive criticism in the comments.

I’m kind of at a loss here. There are threads that cover topics or include content I’m not anxious to see. I just avoid them.

What are your thoughts?

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/just-me-and-my-ai-user-generated-erotica.1590436/post-97164613

It really depends on who the mod is and what forum you post it to. The rules aren’t applied the same by each mod. There has been a recent crackdown on picture threads in one of the forums. Meanwhile, they thrive in others.

 

[tnhardon]

Much like real law, some things are left up to interpretation. There are some mods who are more strict or read into certain things more in depth than others. Others will take certain liberties with the rules.

The frustrating point is that there isn’t continuity across moderated forums. Link threads are allowed in one forum, while not in another.

This has been a hot topic of conversation for months in multiple locations. In some ways, clarity has been received. In others, it has been more of a “this is how I’m going to do it, talk to Laurel if you have issues with that” mentality.

The amount of gray-area has never really been an issue until recently. Moderation may have been too lax previously, but they definitely need to have better continuity across the board on how the rules are interpreted.

 

[jaF0]

OP has far more of an answer than I expected. A whole new policy that is so new it's still under development. I didn't think that would happen.

As I said somewhere on one of those threads, I see art as being created by hand, pencil/pen, chalk, brush on paper, canvas or similar mediums. I could even see digital art using a pad or stylus creating a completely original work on a computer screen. Some people are so proficient in PhotoShop as to be able to do that.

That is not the same as typing in keywords or commands and letting a system produce an image based on algorithms or having a suystem alter an existing image.


One of the story rejection notices included this text: "we do ask that all work published on the site at this time be created primarily by a human. "

 

[BeaMine]

I don’t think how you define art is relevant to the question at hand

 

[Prudence_Art]

I don’t think how you define art is relevant to the question at hand

highly ironic that both your thread and the one started by @Sparky74 in the visual arts forum which were mostly tasteful and artistic have been zapped into the ether while others that are technically shite, amateurish and/or featuring hardcore porn (and worse content banned under forum guidelines), remain untroubled....

 

[BeaMine]

highly ironic that both your thread and the one started by @Sparky74 in the visual arts forum which were mostly tasteful and artistic have been zapped into the ether while others that are technically shite, amateurish and/or featuring hardcore porn and worse content banned under forum guidelines, remain untroubled....

it’s worth noting yes.

 

[jaF0]

highly ironic that both your thread and the one started by @Sparky74 in the visual arts forum which were mostly tasteful and artistic have been zapped into the ether

Interesting.

I hadn't been paying much attention to those threads, but your post made me go look for them. They seem to be completely gone, which is not something Mods can do. We can only move them out of public view. The only ones who can fully delete threads are Laurel and Manu.

By virtue of the fact that it seems they're gone, I'd say we may have our answer that AI images are not permitted.

 

[Prudence_Art]

it’s worth noting yes.

also worth noting sparkys thread was the most vibrant and active in the artist forum by some margin.

 

[neci]

it’s worth noting yes.

it’s also worth noting that the user whose picture you made porn from without her permission is now also completely gone from lit.

 

[Sparky74]

Information newly posted:

https://literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-ai


Authors are claiming their stories are being pulled under suspicion of using it. No specific word yet on how that rule applies to images, but I'm

Oh well another Fun thread killed.

 

[jaF0]

I have no idea who that was.

 

[Sparky74]

I have no idea who that was.

Who what was?

 

[butters]

highly ironic that both your thread and the one started by @Sparky74 in the visual arts forum which were mostly tasteful and artistic have been zapped into the ether while others that are technically shite, amateurish and/or featuring hardcore porn (and worse content banned under forum guidelines), remain untroubled....

anywhere you see posts breaking the forum rules report them

a lot of people complain about seeing stuff that breaks the rules but never report them to bring it to the notice of mods, who often have jobs in the meat world or other responsibilities. They don't get paid and are here only as much as they choose to be. They are people and, like in all walks of life, some will be more diligent than others... but nothing will ever get done about posts that don't get reported unless a mod happens to see them themselves.

being technically shite or amateurish have never been reasons people cannot post stuff. that goes across the boards, from poetry to politics.

 

[BeaMine]

it’s also worth noting that the user whose picture you made porn from without her permission is now also completely gone from lit.

Without? Are you smoking grass? …..Also worth noting that once the revenge porn idea was presented to me I removed any potentially harmful images as I don’t want to be part of that

 

[BeaMine]

anywhere you see posts breaking the forum rules report them

a lot of people complain about seeing stuff that breaks the rules but never report them to bring it to the notice of mods, who often have jobs in the meat world or other responsibilities. They don't get paid and are here only as much as they choose to be. They are people and, like in all walks of life, some will be more diligent than others... but nothing will ever get done about posts that don't get reported unless a mod happens to see them themselves.

being technically shite or amateurish have never been reasons people cannot post stuff. that goes across the boards, from poetry to politics.

I reported stuff and had a mod chastise me….reporting isn’t the answer apparently

 

[BeaMine]

WHAT THE FUCK?

Why was thread removed?

You all better explain some shit here…..

I have sought feedback and clarification and it seems that asking reasonable questions just causes problems….

 

[butters]

I reported stuff and had a mod chastise me….reporting isn’t the answer apparently

did you use the report button and fill in the dialogue box?
were your reasons valid, per the site's guidelines, or did you only think they were?

if you were reporting 'to mods' via pm rather than using the provided button, and they didn't see your claims as valid, then they might respond that way. If you have an issue with how a mod has handled your complaint, once again the only resort is to take it directly to the site owners, quoting/forwarding posts/correspondence. If the owners agree with you, they will address the issue.

 

[BeaMine]

did you use the report button and fill in the dialogue box?
were your reasons valid, per the site's guidelines, or did you only think they were?

if you were reporting 'to mods' via pm rather than using the provided button, and they didn't see your claims as valid, then they might respond that way. If you have an issue with how a mod has handled your complaint, once again the only resort is to take it directly to the site owners, quoting/forwarding posts/correspondence. If the owners agree with you, they will address the issue.

Yes, and yes.

 

[butters]

WHAT THE FUCK?

Why was thread removed?

You all better explain some shit here…..

I have sought feedback and clarification and it seems that asking reasonable questions just causes problems….

no-one here, mod or reader/poster/member can do shit about your 'demands', BeaMine. If it's been nuked with no notification appearing such as "this thread has been moved to...", then that is purely down to admin so ranting here, no matter your frustration, is pointless.

i hope you had your 'work' saved elsewhere if you want to keep it but, as neci pointed out earlier if you've used people's personal photos without permission then you have broken site rules. It may well be the case, and i am only supposing using the information offered in these few threads about stuff getting taken down, that your work is deemed as not being 'mainly created by a human being' and the admin will offer further clarification on the image side of things.

 

[butters]

Yes, and yes.

so which mod 'chastised' you for reporting and why?

 

[BeaMine]

no-one here, mod or reader/poster/member can do shit about your 'demands', BeaMine. If it's been nuked with no notification appearing such as "this thread has been moved to...", then that is purely down to admin so ranting here, no matter your frustration, is pointless.

i hope you had your 'work' saved elsewhere if you want to keep it but, as neci pointed out earlier if you've used people's personal photos without permission then you have broken site rules. It may well be the case, and i am only supposing using the information offered in these few threads about stuff getting taken down, that your work is deemed as not being 'mainly created by a human being' and the admin will offer further clarification on the image side of things.

just who said that it was WITHOUT permission!? If allegations are to be made…substantiate them.

 

[BeaMine]

I like this site and wish to continue to use it in peace. All I asked for was a clarification on a policy that was being applied in an arbitrary and subjective manner. Whatever rules the owners make, I WILL follow but asking for clarification shouldn’t get stuff nuked without any clarification…

 

[RoperTrace]

it seems in the beginning of the thread, you were all, i just use words! the thing is, you don’t and other people aren’t.

Since you're quoting me on that last one, I only do use words for AI. Yes I downloaded a personal photograph that I created, and no I didn't use it. That doesn't mean in the future I won't try to alter something that I've created via photograph and alter it. For now it's only been words to create the AI images. RT

 

[butters]

just who said that it was WITHOUT permission!? If allegations are to be made…substantiate them.

i have no idea if you did or did not get express permission to use a certain poster's picture... but that person has left the site. I don't need to substantiate anything to you, since all i am doing is deducting 'from the information in these few threads' and i trust neci's judgement judgement without question after 14 years of watching her post and moderate at times.