Coming to a Shopping Mall near you...

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

And yes, my gentle, peace-loving folk and supporters of Islam on the Left, this comes from the American Thinker, so you need go no further than the bubble; just ignore this whole thread. It's stupid.

More stupid than stupid...
More stupid than stupid...
More stupid than stupid...
...

The shopping malls of America will be among the next major terrorist targets.

Malls make such obvious high-value targets that it's difficult to grasp why they haven't been hit up until now. Shopping malls are America's marketplaces, constantly packed with people, with uncontrolled entry, and openly vulnerable to any given form of attack. We need only consider the darkest days of the Iraqi terror campaign of 2006-2007 to grasp how the jihadis view marketplaces. Scarcely a week went by without another Iraqi marketplace bombing, with casualties largely consisting of women and children, mounting from the dozens to the hundreds. We need only add the fact that the mall in many ways symbolizes the United States to people across the world, acting as kind of American Horn of Plenty, to see the inevitability of the threat. Such attacks will come, and they will be ugly.

It's not as if the jihadis haven't tried. In late 2003, Nuradin Abdi, a Somali native, was arrested in Louisville, Kentucky while in the midst of plans to attack a mall in Columbus, Ohio. Abdi was closely associated with al-Qaeda member Iyman Faris, arrested for planning a bombing of the Brooklyn Bridge. (A personal side note: Two weeks after 9/11, I was in Columbus itself, speaking to acquaintances about what I'd seen in lower Manhattan. "Well, at least they'll never attack us here," one of them said. "I wouldn't be too sure of that," I told him. "If I were an educated terrorist, I'd be very interested in hitting a town called Columbus.")

Late last year, Tarek Mehanna of Sudbury, Massachusetts was arrested for, among other things, conspiring with Ahmad Abousamra and Daniel Maldonado to attack unidentified malls with automatic weapons. (Abousamra and Maldonado, who had received training in al-Qaeda camps, were evidently already in custody).

On at least two occasions in 2004 and 2007, the FBI circulated warnings of potential mall attacks during the holiday season, when they would present what is known as a "target-rich environment." The 2004 warning involved a mall in central Los Angeles, while the later incident involved malls in both L.A. and Chicago. While no attacks occurred, it remains unknown how far jihadi plans were actually taken.

In Europe, the action has been even hotter. Last week, a Palestinian named Wissam Freijeh was sentenced to ten years for shooting up a Danish mall on December 31, 2008. Freijeh's target was a kiosk selling Israeli products. Two people were injured.

So malls have definitely been on the jihadis' minds. Why no more than one-off attacks? If malls were such an obvious target, wouldn't they have been hit before this? Counter-terror specialists are convinced (as was ably expressed here by Bruce Hoffman) that after a lengthy hiatus recovering from the losses sustained during the Bush years, the jihadis have emerged with a new strategy. This could be called the "wasp" strategy, a method well-known to guerrilla fighters and special-operations forces. Rather than concentrate on massive operations of the 9/11 type, Islamist terrorists will instead carry out endless pinprick attacks, much as a swarm of wasps might harry an elephant (so okay, we'll make it a rhino), maddening the beast to a point where it finally plunges off a cliff. The Fort Hood attack, the Underwear Kid, and the Afghanistan CIA bombing act as evidence of just such a strategy. And there we might well have our answer: the jihadis may have put the malls aside to wait for a moment such as this, when a series of attacks would pay off the most.

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Congressional meddling triggered a kind of low-key craze among schools and other institutions -- including malls -- in which administrations eagerly adapted the "gun-free" pledge, often ostentatiously announcing it with signs containing menacing threats against anyone caught with a gun.

As a result, school shootings, a rarity prior to the '90s, became a commonplace. "Gun-free zones" served to attract armed loons the way that honey attracts bears. Firearms-affairs specialist John R. Lott, Jr. has gone on record to state that every major recent shooting has occurred in a declared gun-free area. This includes Virginia Tech, where in September 2007 an insane undergraduate murdered over thirty students.

Malls have not been immune. Mall shootings, unheard of before the "gun-free" movement, are today no rarity. They have occurred in recent years at Kingston, N.Y.; Tacoma, Washington; Kansas City, Missouri; Omaha, Nebraska; and Salt Lake City, Utah. In each case, the "gun-free" policy was in place and widely advertised.

We can assume that jihadi terrorists are as well-informed as the average American psychotic. "Gun-free" malls are simply informing our enemies where the easiest targets can be found. These malls will be the first ones hit.

JR Dunn
(yes, related to Anita; might actually have some insight on the Left)

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another quality cut and paste from Dances With Falsehoods...

And yes, my gentle, peace-loving folk and supporters of Islam on the Left, this comes from the American Thinker, so you need go no further than the bubble; just ignore this whole thread. It's stupid.

More stupid than stupid...
More stupid than stupid...
More stupid than stupid...
...



JR Dunn
(yes, related to Anita; might actually have some insight on the Left)

Post quantity over post quality uber alles!

As your role model Sarah Stoopid might say.....Thinkin's HARD!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Post quantity over post quality uber alles!

As your role model Sarah Stoopid might say.....Thinkin's HARD!

Even harder for you...

So you spit.
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Contemporary leftists, on the other hand, view their opponents as people you send off to the Gulag, unworthy of any respect, deserving of any kind of low blow, no matter how foul. So you accuse Goldwater of insanity, slander Justice Thomas as a sexual monster, casually publish plays, books, and films calling for the assassination of President Bush, and assault the first serious Republican female candidate at her weakest point -- her family. And of course, you scream to high heaven if any form of turnabout occurs in your direction, as in the case of the Obama family, which was declared "off limits" early in the presidential campaign, at the same time that Palin's family was being stretched on the media rack.

This style of political loathing has become effectively innate. It has been systemized to such a degree as to become integral. Modern liberalism cannot do without it. An entire structure has been erected on the basis of political hatred, and from that structure a whole new strategy has arisen.
J.R. Dunn

 

[off2bed]

My only critique is that shopping malls probably peaked in the eighties, in my experience. Where I live, they've been steadily going down hill and some are in bankruptcy. They're mostly populated by teenagers who don't buy anything.

Terrorists can't do much more damage to the economy than has already been done by politicians.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

My only critique is that shopping malls probably peaked in the eighties, in my experience. Where I live, they've been steadily going down hill and some are in bankruptcy. They're mostly populated by teenagers who don't buy anything.

Terrorists can't do much more damage to the economy than has already been done by politicians.

They are still high-value targets.

Of course, our other major gun-free zones are the schools...



On the list of armed to the teeth?

Anywhere politicians come to roost and rule...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Even harder for you...

So you spit.

Unlike you, I can express...and defend....my own opinion without the help of American Thinker.

Weak minded folks like you hide behind the opinions of others because it gives you plausible deniability when the heat gets too hot ("oh gosh, I never said THAT, I was just repeatin' what someone else said.....")

uCOWARD.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Unlike you, I can express...and defend....my own opinion without the help of American Thinker.

Weak minded folks like you hide behind the opinions of others because it gives you plausible deniability when the heat gets too hot ("oh gosh, I never said THAT, I was just repeatin' what someone else said.....")

uCOWARD.

Yeah, your opinion is pure hatred for anyone who disagrees with you.
No thinking required.
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Liberals would prefer no opposition. Behind the force field of political correctness, there should never be any disagreement once the liberal mind has decided that something is good for society. There can be no opposition to the "correct" way of thinking, and if you don't think "correctly," you are attacked.
Reverend Kenneth L. Hutcherson

 

[busybody..]

if you recall

after 9/11

I pointed this out

in addition, I predict tunnels!


http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=33126332#post33126332

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Bridges to disrupt commerce.




Just drive a cement mixer to the middle and AlluhaAkbar!

 

[off2bed]

"Islamist" terrorists know they are immune to being stopped, they don't need gun-free zones to protect them. They have Political Correctness.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

"Islamist" terrorists know they are immune to being stopped, they don't need gun-free zones to protect them. They have Political Correctness.

And vigilant defenders of it in people like Throb, bound and determined that the Right is wrong and that Wright is right!

They are focused on domestic threats to their belief system and fear Islam not one wit; that's just rw "fear-mongering" whose only goal is to take away their rights...

And their Wrights!
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"Pay attention to your enemies, for they are the first to discover your mistakes."
Antisthenes

 

[RightField]

I have the feeling Rob doesn't interact with people much in RL which is why he's so ready to lash out so vehemently at anyone who disagrees with him.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

I have the feeling Rob doesn't interact with people much in RL which is why he's so ready to lash out so vehemently at anyone who disagrees with him.

If he does, his frustration comes from having to constantly kowtow to them since it is readily self-apparent that he is a superior man...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Add high-profile hotel lobbies to the list.

 

[Ishmael]

All of those targets would most certainly be news worthy and all would contribute to national paranoia, but in the end they would be mostly symbolic in value and would achieve little more than a national hardening of the heart. The damage would be mostly symbolic and would more than likely lead to policies and actions very detrimental to the jihadists long term goals for liittle damage done. Attacks such as discribed would most likely be carried out by an ad hoc group.

A Bin Laden planned attack would be planned in such a manner as to do as much economic damage as is possible. It's no great secret that the US is in a very precarious position economically and critical strikes to either key infrastructure or the financial sector might be enough to push us over the edge. And that would be worth the policy changes that would result from either form of attack.

It is no great secret that Bin Laden et al are desirous of obtaining a nuclear device of some sort. Nothing like a 'suitcase from Allah' detonated in the NYC financial sector to achieve great disruption. And suitcase nukes are quite real and well within the technical capabilities of anyone that can get their hands on the material. (Look up Davy Crockett Nuke on goggle, the damn thing only weighed 51 lbs.)

Ishmael

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Do his wanna-be's know that?


The home-growns, frustrated and with limited means to vent?

Guys like Hassan and the Little Rock shooter.

We can BOTH be right on this one...

 

[Ishmael]

Do his wanna-be's know that?


The home-growns, frustrated and with limited means to vent?

Guys like Hassan and the Little Rock shooter.

We can BOTH be right on this one...

Probably not. Bin Laden, given the current policy re. terrorists, would probably remain silent, or even disavow, any connection with the perps in an attempt to restrict the predictable backlash to it being treated as a mere law enforcement problem. He would then use the also predictable clamping down on US Muslims as a fertile recruiting ground for longer term actions and goals. If, on the other hand, the administration acts like a woman scorned and puts a full court press on foriegn terrorist activities, up to and including massive retaliation in the tribal regions of Pakistan, then the whole thing would have blown up in Bin Ladens face and that is the risk he runs in trying to pull something like this off. Hence the reason that I think he wouldn't bother with plans that small.

The recent event in Dec. does fit in with his plans, even in the failure of the idiot that tried to blow his own balls off. Consider the massive financial burden that is going to have to be absorbed by the security aparatus in the western world to try to prevent another such occurance.

Ishmael

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

That's why malls would be a viable target; altering shopping patterns and increasing business failures and unemployment...




Hell, hit Walmart on the day government debit cards are updated.

 

[off2bed]

Well, like I said, malls are already dying.

I don't have much confidence in the ability of a psycho fanatic hiding in a cave on the other side of the word to be able to pick the perfect American target. The Islamofascists have always failed to understand how the west works and only seem to react to the stereotypes perpetuated by their own propaganda.

Kind of like Democrats.

 

[JohnnySavage]

That's why malls would be a viable target; altering shopping patterns and increasing business failures and unemployment...




Hell, hit Walmart on the day government debit cards are updated.

Why do you say, "would be" rather than "have been?"

 

[unregistered]

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Why do you say, "would be" rather than "have been?"

It was pointed out earlier that they had been targeted before.

Would be would be in expectation of a continuation of their fascination with market-places.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

...and of course you can't defend your own ideas without lying about the motives, actions, or statements of others.

He doesn't have ideas; just enemies which need to be destroyed for the True Believers to advance to a more glorious future as they hate the present and resent the past.

 

[Ishmael]

That's why malls would be a viable target; altering shopping patterns and increasing business failures and unemployment...




Hell, hit Walmart on the day government debit cards are updated.

Which is why I pointed out that such an attack of that sort would most likely be the act of an ad hoc group.

Ishmael

 

[off2bed]

He doesn't have ideas; just enemies which need to be destroyed for the True Believers to advance to a more glorious future as they hate the present and resent the past.

That, and I've found that most of the shit the drips from the mouths of liberals is pure projection. "Astroturfing" comes to mind.