Spread legs - tie ankles or thighs? For first time.

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First post, I searched but did not find anything.

I am in a vanilla relationship. My wife is very much against any kind of restraints. My own fantasies are heavily into BDSM and femdom, but as we know, one needs two to party.

She does love to facesit me (that took some years of convincing too) so some of my fantasies are fulfilled, but the BDSM side, not so much.

(We have been married for 20 years now, completely monogamous so outside fulfillment is not an option for me, period. I do use porn sometimes - something she does not know about - she would consider that too cheating, but hey, I need SOME outlet).

I suppose I would be a switch if I actually lived this lifestyle, but I will probably never know.

Anyway, after some years of very gentle prodding, she is willing that I tie her legs open, spread eagle, as long as I do not tie her hands.

I have seen most images tieing the legs open by the ankles, however, when my wife orgasms, she clenches her legs closed very very tightly and I am worried that if I tie her open by the ankles, she would put a lot of pressure on her knees and injure herself.
So should I tie her by the thighs?

(by the way, one reason I want to tie her open to begin with, is because she clenches closed so tightly. It makes it very hard for me to keep stimulating her...).

Thanks for any advise.

-Bocaj
 
I think it depends on what you are after, with this.
For many women, there is a need to work the thigh muscles some way to ve able to orgasm or fully enjoy orgasm.
If this is the case for her and you don't want to interfere with her orgasm, perhaps you could use a spreader bar not attached to anything. You get to tie and she could probably still clench when she comes if she bends her knees if you stay out of the way.
Another option is for her to train herself to stretch her legs instead of clenching. It does take some dedication though so it might not be an option if she only does this to please you.
 
You know...she can clench all day if you "stimulate" her from behind and it won't help her at all to prevent access? I would rather tie her ankles together and have my way with her from behind.
 
I don't recommend any ties on the inner thighs. There's an important vein/artery there that if broken, can cause you to bleed out, so yeah, unless you know human anatomy and/or have studied the human body for a long time, DO NOT do that. Most people tie around the ankles, because it's an easy anchor point, and doesn't risk bursting blood vessels.
 
Lie your wife on her back with a large pillow or cushion under her bottom to help support her back. Hold her feet together sole pressed against sole and thread a long shoelace between her toes, like threading a shoe lace in a shoe. Start at the little toes and work back and forth, keeping the lace taunt, up to the big ones. Once her feet are held together tie off the ends using her big toes as anchor points. Now she can wriggle and struggle but neither bring her legs together nor put any real force onto her knees.

If you are not too sure you can even practice this one on yourself, though always keep a sharp pair of substantial scissors handy, just in case.
 
Lie your wife on her back with a large pillow or cushion under her bottom to help support her back. Hold her feet together sole pressed against sole and thread a long shoelace between her toes, like threading a shoe lace in a shoe. Start at the little toes and work back and forth, keeping the lace taunt, up to the big ones. Once her feet are held together tie off the ends using her big toes as anchor points. Now she can wriggle and struggle but neither bring her legs together nor put any real force onto her knees.

If you are not too sure you can even practice this one on yourself, though always keep a sharp pair of substantial scissors handy, just in case.


Omg awesome idea!
 
Update:

I ended up doing the following.

As I am a pretty good handyman, I made the restraints myself.

I had a extra leather belt. I cut it into two pieces. The length I measured according the size of my own thigh, just above the knee.
I then punched a grommet into each side, of each piece.

I attached a carabiner to each piece connecting the grommet holes, so now I had two loops.

I then simply tied the carabiner to some rope, which attached to the anchor point on each side of the bed.

After some warm up and foreplay, I slipped each loop over her leg to just over her knee, and tied the ends, and thus spread her legs.

The non-snug system (i.e. the loop itself was not tight on her leg) was easy for her to adjust too without freaking out, and yet help her legs open darn well. The wide strap of the belt did not hurt her at all at the point of contact and I did not need to worry about my own inexperience at making knots or using the correct type of rope.

The rest was pretty good :D:D:D.

I'll try to attach a pic later on...
 
Update:

I ended up doing the following.

As I am a pretty good handyman, I made the restraints myself.

I had a extra leather belt. I cut it into two pieces. The length I measured according the size of my own thigh, just above the knee.
I then punched a grommet into each side, of each piece.

I attached a carabiner to each piece connecting the grommet holes, so now I had two loops.

I then simply tied the carabiner to some rope, which attached to the anchor point on each side of the bed.

After some warm up and foreplay, I slipped each loop over her leg to just over her knee, and tied the ends, and thus spread her legs.

The non-snug system (i.e. the loop itself was not tight on her leg) was easy for her to adjust too without freaking out, and yet help her legs open darn well. The wide strap of the belt did not hurt her at all at the point of contact and I did not need to worry about my own inexperience at making knots or using the correct type of rope.

The rest was pretty good :D:D:D.

I'll try to attach a pic later on...
Yes please!
 
I hope you were not expecting a pic of my wife's open legs. She would probably kill me if she ever found out i took a pic of her in any way naked. But I CAN show what I made.

Here you go :)


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That is awesome!!! Might talk to Daddy about making something like that. We have those cheesy velcro straps for the thighs that I don't like very much. This is an awesome idea to at least consider trying!!

Glad things worked out for you and that your wife is willing to try at least. Did she like what you did?
 
Did she like what you did?

Yes. :D

I was able to really open her up, spread her lips wide, go deep with my tongue, and KEEP at it, and she was not able to close up. The words "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my GOD" were repeated more than usual....
Then I inserted a rabbit dildo (I think it's called, our only toy prior to this. Yes, I know, a bit funny considering we have been married for 20 years - gives you an idea how vanilla she is) and she went pretty wild. And because her legs were all open, I was able to move it in an out a bit. And then I went back to licking her. Etc, Etc :)

When I ask her now if we can do it again, I get a sheepish smile and an "Eyyyye don't know, maybe". In other words, I she wants it again but is not willing to admit it that SHE wants it now, as opposed to "doing me a favor and letting me fulfill a fantasy".

I will certainly try this again. One thing for sure - I can't tell her BEFORE sex that I intend to restrain her, because then she gets all tense and out of the mood - this happened a few times.

When I finally did it this time, I only brought it up after we were both pretty warmed up and just went ahead and did it. I think it will take a few more times, before she will even consider letting me tie her hands! But that is the plan.

So I highly advise anyone doing this for the first time, take it easy, get warmed up and make it awesome.
 
Yes. :D

I was able to really open her up, spread her lips wide, go deep with my tongue, and KEEP at it, and she was not able to close up. The words "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my GOD" were repeated more than usual....
Then I inserted a rabbit dildo (I think it's called, our only toy prior to this. Yes, I know, a bit funny considering we have been married for 20 years - gives you an idea how vanilla she is) and she went pretty wild. And because her legs were all open, I was able to move it in an out a bit. And then I went back to licking her. Etc, Etc :)

When I ask her now if we can do it again, I get a sheepish smile and an "Eyyyye don't know, maybe". In other words, I she wants it again but is not willing to admit it that SHE wants it now, as opposed to "doing me a favor and letting me fulfill a fantasy".

I will certainly try this again. One thing for sure - I can't tell her BEFORE sex that I intend to restrain her, because then she gets all tense and out of the mood - this happened a few times.

When I finally did it this time, I only brought it up after we were both pretty warmed up and just went ahead and did it. I think it will take a few more times, before she will even consider letting me tie her hands! But that is the plan.

So I highly advise anyone doing this for the first time, take it easy, get warmed up and make it awesome.


I like your approach to this, you clearly love and understand her :rose:
 
maybe use ankle cuffs with ring and snap them together, using any or no length of chain etc. It has been done to me that way.. and it was perfect.. just sayinga s I'm new here.. sorry if I butted in..:eek:
 
I get my wife to hold the girls ankles and pull her legs apart to give me free access plus we have many other ways to hold her
 
Yes. :D

I was able to really open her up, spread her lips wide, go deep with my tongue, and KEEP at it, and she was not able to close up. The words "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my GOD" were repeated more than usual....
Then I inserted a rabbit dildo (I think it's called, our only toy prior to this. Yes, I know, a bit funny considering we have been married for 20 years - gives you an idea how vanilla she is) and she went pretty wild. And because her legs were all open, I was able to move it in an out a bit. And then I went back to licking her. Etc, Etc :)

When I ask her now if we can do it again, I get a sheepish smile and an "Eyyyye don't know, maybe". In other words, I she wants it again but is not willing to admit it that SHE wants it now, as opposed to "doing me a favor and letting me fulfill a fantasy".

I will certainly try this again. One thing for sure - I can't tell her BEFORE sex that I intend to restrain her, because then she gets all tense and out of the mood - this happened a few times.

When I finally did it this time, I only brought it up after we were both pretty warmed up and just went ahead and did it. I think it will take a few more times, before she will even consider letting me tie her hands! But that is the plan.

So I highly advise anyone doing this for the first time, take it easy, get warmed up and make it awesome.

Oh I think you two are in for some fun! She sounds a bit like me, so maybe in time you'll have someone who is more eager about it. I definitely get all tense if I'm expected to like something, and it's much easier when my husband takes charge and I can just feel how I feel about it. Some of our most challenging play times were when he told me ahead of time what we were going to do.

She is one lucky lady.
 
Oh I think you two are in for some fun! She sounds a bit like me, so maybe in time you'll have someone who is more eager about it. I definitely get all tense if I'm expected to like something, and it's much easier when my husband takes charge and I can just feel how I feel about it. Some of our most challenging play times were when he told me ahead of time what we were going to do.

She is one lucky lady.

mm imagination is the first step in such erotic moments,, then talking , creating an understanding, an erotic and thrilling expectation. I thinks it can add a lot.. then encouraging along the way.. constant reinforcement.. nice
 
maybe use ankle cuffs with ring and snap them together, using any or no length of chain etc. It has been done to me that way.. and it was perfect.. just sayinga s I'm new here.. sorry if I butted in..:eek:

not sure what you mean here, I can't picture it.
 
not sure what you mean here, I can't picture it.

mm, should have added that if secured at ankles , then legs , thighs forced apart--wide-, it creates a a very nice wide 'opening. thinking in doggy stlye as was done to me..
 
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