phrodeau
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They would need to bring a bunch of tanning beds with them. We don't have enough.Everybody in LA should move to Minnesota immediately!
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They would need to bring a bunch of tanning beds with them. We don't have enough.Everybody in LA should move to Minnesota immediately!
They would need to bring a bunch of tanning beds with them. We don't have enough.
Sure, move to Minnesota for the sunshine.Get natural sunshine instead. I think you could use the Vitamin D.
If you visit North Catrolina…I thought people only go to Minnesota to get cold and talk funny, turns out they also go there to employ diaper wearing comics.
A more up to date list, with methodology included.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-best-economies/21697/
I knew some Minnesotans. They all moved to southern California. Smart folks.
Then there's the story I've told before of the Minnesotan who grew tired of winter. He strapped a snowblower atop his car and drove south. When people started pointing and asking what it was, he knew he'd gone far enough.
Thanks for providing the methodology.
I note, in order to get the results they wanted, they had to add factors like "Average Educational Attainment of Recent Migrants from Abroad"; "Number of Independent Inventor Patents per 1,000 Working-Age Population" (emphasis added, any kook can file a patent); and "Quality of Legal System." In that last case, how do they judge "quality"? They apparently needed to add some qualitative, and thereby unavoidably subjective, metrics in order to avoid whatever results purely quantitative had given them.
More to the point, the overall theme of this thread is not which states are currently better economically. It is about the way they are trending under their current governments. The economic crises in Illinois and California show what happens when you have a regulate, tax, and spend approach. That is what is likewise happening, albeit at a slower pace and from a better starting place (thanks to the past Republican government) in Minnesota. Meanwhile, any quantitative set of metrics shows that Wisconsin, with its reduced regulation, lower taxes, and switch from Democrat Gov. Doyle's deficits to Republican Gov. Walker's consistent budget surpluses, is growing. Let's look at those numbers again in a few years, when the full impact of the fruits of Wisconsin's current governance, like the Foxconn development, start to really take effect.
Don't get too caught in minutiae without looking at the weight assigned. The immigrant education is weighted lightly and only accounts for 1.5 points on the scale. I honestly don't think you can look at a state's economy by just measuring GDP for example.
I don't know about Illinois, but there's no economic crisis in California....
Interesting website.... It's fascinating.
Wisconsin enjoyed increases in private-sector jobs.... October brought 9,500 private sector jobs to the state, according to preliminary estimates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.... Minnesota lost 5,000.
Wisconsin enjoyed increases in private-sector jobs.... October brought 9,500 private sector jobs to the state, according to preliminary estimates from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.... Minnesota lost 5,000.
Right... fascinating.
None the less:
Also, I was too kind to Illinois in the post I excerpt from above.
Illinois’ problem with wealth flight isn’t just persisting, it’s getting worse. That’s the takeaway from new data released by the Internal Revenue Service on Nov. 30. In terms of both people and income, the Land of Lincoln saw a record-breaking exodus in the 2015 tax year (2015-2016).
Illinois saw a net loss of nearly 42,000 tax returns to other states on the year, representing a net loss of more than 86,100 people (measured in exemptions), according to the IRS. That’s an all-time high.
And when people leave the state, they don’t just take their talent, drive and ingenuity. They take their wallets, too.
Illinois lost $4.75 billion in adjusted gross income, or AGI, on net to other states in tax year 2015. That’s also an all-time high. While residents saw $6.35 billion in adjusted gross income, or AGI, move into Illinois from other states, $11.10 billion moved out of Illinois to another state.
A. Berg, New IRS Data: Illinois Sees Record Loss of People, Income to Other States, Illinois Policy (Dec.1, 2017). According to the article, a good chunk of these people moved to Wisconsin. I wonder what that will look like when Foxconn is up and running.
But, for now, this thread is about Minnesota's meltdown, so I reiterate:
Your acting like that cranky old busy body neighbor, whose not just happy that your yard looks great, the neighbor's had to look horrible.
A few years ago, we started hearing about the "Minnesota Miracle." Back then, certain indicators suggested that Minnesota had a stronger economy than the other Great Lakes states such as Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, and Wisconsin. This was considered significant because several of those states, lead among them Wisconsin, had in 2010 or 2014, come under Republican control, while Democrats controlled Minnesota. In fact, the comparison was most often made with its next-door neighbor Wisconsin, where Republicans had recently lowered taxes and enacted a number of controversial regulatory reforms to make the state more business friendly. With Minnesota having an arguably better economy, the supposed lesson: Democrats better run economies.
Now look what has happened since:
Are you interested in truth or cherry picking?
It's only interested in cherry picking, not responding to the real data, getting absolutely destroyed, and pretending to be a girl on the internet.
For example, it complete ignores the reports it doesn't like, the Economic Snapshot of States. If you look at the most recent set of data you'll see that not only is Minnesota a wealthier state, it also has had more wage growth, overall growth, and higher wages than Wisconsin. And it's certainly not interested in learning that all of this was done without destroying the state's system of higher education, giving away billions of dollars for minimum wage jobs, and having a bald dick for a governor.
Oh yeah and more people are leaving the state than moving in. Another point is always fails to mention.
A few years ago, we started hearing about the "Minnesota Miracle." Back then, certain indicators suggested that Minnesota had a stronger economy than the other Great Lakes states such as Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, and Wisconsin. This was considered significant because several of those states, lead among them Wisconsin, had in 2010 or 2014, come under Republican control, while Democrats controlled Minnesota. In fact, the comparison was most often made with its next-door neighbor Wisconsin, where Republicans had recently lowered taxes and enacted a number of controversial regulatory reforms to make the state more business friendly. With Minnesota having an arguably better economy, the supposed lesson: Democrats better run economies.
Now look what has happened since:
Study finds Minnesota’s economy 'average' – with a dim future (August 15, 2016).
This article noted:
It goes on to point out that agencies of Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton's own administration "also predict below-average economic performance" (emphasis added).
So much for the "Minnesota Miracle."
Now, with last November's elections, Republicans regained power in the Minnesota legislature (indicating that Minnesota voters recognize that the Democrats are mishandling things). Democrat Mark Dayton remains governor, however, and prevents any of the sort of economic and regulatory reform that has benefited many of its neighbors, like Wisconsin.
Also, remember that Wisconsin's prior governor, Democrat Jim Doyle, left behind for Scott Walker a >$3 billion deficit, even after Doyle and the Democrat controlled legislature ill-advisedly raided the state's allocated transportation fund (we're still paying for that) and illegally stole from a trust fund established to help victims of medical malpractice (how cruel)! The trust fund money the Democrats stole had to be paid back during the early years of the Walker administration. In other words, the Republicans had to dig themselves out of a nearly $4 billion dollar hole left by their Democrat immediate predecessors, so if it has taken a few years to catch up, that is certainly understandable.
Minnesota's neighboring Republican run states like Wisconsin and North Dakota are booming while Minnesota is starting to follow the downward spirals of Democrat controlled states like California and Illinois. The lesson learned: lower taxes and limiting regulation to reasonable levels are what governments must do for a healthy economy.
Dawn is getting destroyed in her own thread. This is harsh shit.
Also, quoting yourself getting destroyed isn't a good look for you. Just like pretending to be a girl on the internet isn't working out well for you either.
Right behind Iowa and South Dakota, two economic titans.