damppanties
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*nod*If I had used "Waxed the Carrot" would I be a vegitarian?
People who "tossed the pink salad" and "ate at the Y" are definitely vagitarians.
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*nod*If I had used "Waxed the Carrot" would I be a vegitarian?
*nod*
People who "tossed the pink salad" and "ate at the Y" are definitely vagitarians.
*nod*
People who "tossed the pink salad" and "ate at the Y" are definitely vagitarians.
Well, I prefer tuna tacos, myself.
It's much more fun when I get to watch, or be watched.
I don't think anyone really needs to be taught how to masturbate. Instead, we should teach that masturbation isn't either sinful or harmful, and thus remove the stigma associated with it.
Being I've been away and missed this thread and it's also still masturbation month I'm giving this a bump.
I agree that we should not be taught that masturbation is sinful or harmful and the stigma associated with masturbation is actually something that is rather new to society. It is surprising the extent to which some resorted to to stop people from masturbating especially children and young adults. You may find this amusing, in a way frightening, The Anti-Masturbation Movements 14-Greatest Inventions.
As far as masturbation being taught I am of a differing opinion. For men, at least as I perceive it, it is very easy to learn how to masturbate to orgasm. It really isn't the masturbation that is the goal it's the orgasm. But according to the latest data, actually tests not self surveys, the average man in the U.S. last three to five minutes during intercourse, which in my opinion isn't long enough to satisfy any woman. So men should be taught not how to masturbate but how to control his orgasm while masturbating.
By the way I know all you Lit guys last forever, I checked the thread, the men who posted lasted anywhere from fifteen minutes to an hour and one half.
Although learning to masturbate to orgasm for you men seems to be easy, it's not so for us, our bodies are much more complicated that yours are, we have to learn how to have an orgasm, I even think we have to learn how to allow ourselves to have an orgasm. Once we've done so practice makes perfect and over time we can give ourselves an orgasm very quickly, that is if we want it to happen quickly, sometime the play is almost as satisfying as the orgasm itself. So I think it would be good for women to be taught exactly how our bodies function when it comes to sexual arousal and orgasm.
I thought ya'll might like to read about masturbation from the perspective of a few queer ladies, Masturbation Memory Lane. Just the art work is worth a look see, very erotic flowers.
Being I've been away and missed this thread and it's also still masturbation month I'm giving this a bump.
By the way I know all you Lit guys last forever, I checked the thread, the men who posted lasted anywhere from fifteen minutes to an hour and one half.
I thought ya'll might like to read about masturbation from the perspective of a few queer ladies, Masturbation Memory Lane. Just the art work is worth a look see, very erotic flowers.
Yeah, we're all wham-bam porn studs and all about the money shot...
Personally, I discovered the joys of edging long before I turned 16...
Good for you and maybe better for your significant other, if you have one.
Contrary to what you or others think, the fact that men, according to research, don't last nearly as long as men seem to brag about was not a condemnation of men, I just pointed out that men like women need to be taught early about masturbating and the needs of their eventual partner or partners.
I would think if a man learns from masturbating to come quickly it's going to be a very hard habit to break. I also believe that most boys want to please girls, that is the norm, so if boys know coming to quickly isn't going to be satisfactory to the girls, they'll learn early to control their orgasms. Which of course also prolongs their own pleasure. So both the boys and girls come out winners
It's in our nature to take anything relating to our bodies as grounds for a pissing contest, as it were. if Guy A says he can hold out for 5 minutes, Guy B says he can last 6 minutes, and so on.
But while the three-to-five minute benchmark may be the rule, there is a great amount of variation. One friend of mine was fond of saying, in reference to any woman he wanted to date, that "I'll give her the best 45 seconds she's ever known."
Of course I do know that there is a great variation in men. I also know that pleasing a partner, particularly if that partner happens to be a woman, a good lover knows for most women intercourse may be pleasurable but it is not the main course. The truth is a man could be a marvelous lover and really only last forty five seconds, although I think most women would like intercourse to last longer, it would hardly be worth strapping it on for forty five seconds.
As far as men go, I have to go by what I read or from something a hetero/bi woman tells me. Men may talk sex but they surely don't talk about sex in as personal away as some do here, by the way I found your last post interesting. I'm a curious person and not being a man hater as some assume, I find men's sexuality interesting. I also believe that men just like us women want to please their partners. I may have some misgivings about men but I don't feel most men are selfish lovers. At least they don't intend to be so.
Look, I agree with this. However, let's not discount the magical sensation many of us felt when we first discovered what we could make our bodies do. What a marvelous discovery! Like learning how to tickle yourself, only better. Sure, those feelings of shame and guilt are bothersome, but perhaps those sensations taught us something, too? I'm not a fan of hazing, even when it's self-inflicted, but it occurs to me: maybe there's a hidden lesson here, too?I agree that we should not be taught that masturbation is sinful or harmful....
As far as masturbation being taught I am of a differing opinion. For men, at least as I perceive it, it is very easy to learn how to masturbate to orgasm.
It really isn't the masturbation that is the goal it's the orgasm. But according to the latest data, actually tests not self surveys, the average man in the U.S. last three to five minutes during intercourse, which in my opinion isn't long enough to satisfy any woman. So men should be taught not how to masturbate but how to control his orgasm while masturbating.
Although learning to masturbate to orgasm for you men seems to be easy, it's not so for us, our bodies are much more complicated that yours are, we have to learn how to have an orgasm,
I even think we have to learn how to allow ourselves to have an orgasm.
I would think if a man learns from masturbating to come quickly it's going to be a very hard habit to break.
I also believe that most boys want to please girls, that is the norm,
It's in our nature to take anything relating to our bodies as grounds for a pissing contest, as it were. if Guy A says he can hold out for 5 minutes, Guy B says he can last 6 minutes, and so on.
To be frank, I would say that the majority of men -- at least in the culture that I know -- are more fixated on their own gratification before pleasing their partner.
We could have a thousand men post on this thread claiming they think of their lover first, but...
Personally, I've never had a woman actually tell me I was so good in bed that they just couldn't imagine another man being better.
Either way, it requires that any particular lover forgo their own needs in favor of pleasing the person they are pleasuring . . . with the hoped-for caveat that they will be rewarded in kind.
Look, I agree with this. However, let's not discount the magical sensation many of us felt when we first discovered what we could make our bodies do. What a marvelous discovery! Like learning how to tickle yourself, only better. Sure, those feelings of shame and guilt are bothersome, but perhaps those sensations taught us something, too? I'm not a fan of hazing, even when it's self-inflicted, but it occurs to me: maybe there's a hidden lesson here, too?
I would like to propose that it's equally easy for women to discover the same magic trick. but I find major holes in your theory that frequent masturbation impedes a man's ability to last longer during intercourse.
Sorry, but I'm going to respectfully (and I really do mean respectfully) suggest "BULLSHIT!" on this element, too. You would have us believe that because a man's sex organs are on the outside versus tucked inside a labia majora that it's more difficult for a woman to find her clit than it is for a man to find his prick? I don't believe that's true. Nor do I believe a woman's body is more complicated than a man's body. Touch here in this way and it feels really good to me. That's not gender specific. No, I would suggest there's more going on beyond the physical configurations of our bodies. And I think that more is fascinating!
Since you asked the question and we all know you think you have the answer why did you not give us your theory!
I fail to see any good in teaching children that masturbation and to a large extent sex is sinful and shameful. Speaking only as a woman, I think it is more harmful for us than it is for you men. You seem to get past that guilt and shame.
Which by the way is provable, the vast majority of men learn to masturbate shortly before or just after the start of puberty, where a large percentage of women don't masturbate until they're in their twenties or later. The vast majority of men masturbate, whereas a large number of women never masturbate.
I do contend teaching both sexes proper sex education with lack of shame or guilt, including masturbation, ... would make for more balanced adults with far fewer hang-ups both sexual hang-ups ... . I also contend that these classes should be separated by gender.
No you're not being respectful, so I guess I'm free to be just as respectful as you think you are. This is just typical, a man thinking he knows what it's like to be a woman, what it's like to have our bodies, what we're suppose to feel and how we react.
What you did was just assume you knew all you needed to know about us. What you could have done is researched before you put your foot in your month. You can find the facts, ..
If you'd have bothered to do the research...
Just to correct your misstatement of what I didn't say. I said nothing about the frequency of men masturbating. Nor did I contend that frequency of masturbation has anything to do with a man's duration during intercourse. Where you came up with that I have no idea, maybe you need to check deeply into your own mind, it's not in mine.
... you seem to be angry over the truth, three minute of intercourse isn't going to satisfy any woman.
You certainly do know how to suck all of the fun out of masturbating.
If you're sucking while masturbating, you're more flexible than me, better hung and dammit, I want pictures!!!!
You mean you can't? Oh, my.
And now that I feel guilty about hijacking JackLuis's thread, I think I'll give Masturbation month with my own one handed salute!
I’ve been pretty busy lately and I’ve noticed something. I’ve been doing lots of little quickies with myself. In my marriage, we engage in mutual masturbation, and my husband also knows that I help myself sometimes, especially when my drive is in overload and his isn’t. When I masturbate it doesn’t take anything away from him. Most of the time it just gets me keyed up for later (with him) so it’s all good.
I used to spend more time at it though. I’d shower or take a bath and lie down on my bed and think about fantasies involving my husband and slowly work myself into it. I can’t remember the last time I did that though! Recently it’s been more like 30 seconds of rubbing, BAM, and then I’m finished and ready to go do something else.